Dumbest Argument.

[The Necromancer]

this is a madara thread my friend.. probably in the wrong thread you are in.

No. This is a hate thread because of a previous Hashi riding thread you made earlier today. And the only way it is a madara thread is when you mention his name when you say Hashi would beat him.

 

[Ldude]

Stupidest argument presented by Madara supporters.. and people who try to defend Madara is : " Madara and Hashirama fought in the past, so why didn't Hashirama kill Madara then. If Hashirama is strong as you say."

So by that statement you Madara supporters also might think that, A is Minato's equal, right? I mean hey they fought many times.. lmao. uh no. Hashirama had no REAL reason to kill a another clan leader. Same for Minato.

Before any trolls make pointless posts, please use your brain. And defend Madara with some facts.. and not try to kiss his ass and say he is equal to a guy who he himself said is on par with the current version Madara. Just Stop. :sy:

He didn't choose to leave Madara alive. Everyone thought Madara died during their battle, but he actually made a clever escape. He also had great reason to kill Madara. Madara was trying to overthrow Hashirama and take over the village. He wanted to kill him but wasn't good enough to get the job done.

Since then, Madara has gotten the rinnegan, unlimited chakra, and the inability to die. Quit being a fanboy and admit Hashirama couldn't take him on alone, even if he were alive and well...

 

[immortal sage]

Logically, if we accept that Hashirama's main ability was Mokuton, and that Madara now has Mokuton himself and THE ****ING RINNEGAN, isn't it logical to conclude that current Madara is stronger than Hashirama?

no

ems madera<<<hashirama
ems madera with kyuubi<<hashirama
edo madera without kyuubi<hashirama

hashi can heal like edo madera can
if madera uses his mokuton hashi would use it against him since he knows how to use mokuton better
the only rinnagen tech madera has displayed is ubsorbing jutsu but that wont work against mokuton if you look back to where madera first used ps he was being sealed by gaara sand and couldnt suck it up with rinnagen so he also wont be able to suck up mokuton so hashi is still stronger

 

[FlareBlitz]

Oh, my bad. I see you're a little off because of Hashi's **** in your brain.

Lol ur just an imature little fourteen y/o kidd

 

[Lightbringer]

no

ems madera<<<hashirama
ems madera with kyuubi<<hashirama
edo madera without kyuubi<hashirama

hashi can heal like edo madera can
if madera uses his mokuton hashi would use it against him since he knows how to use mokuton better
the only rinnagen tech madera has displayed is ubsorbing jutsu but that wont work against mokuton if you look back to where madera first used ps he was being sealed by gaara sand and couldnt suck it up with rinnagen so he also wont be able to suck up mokuton so hashi is still stronger

because summoning meteors doesn't factor into this equation

 

[slamer330]

You already made this thread!

 

[SilverSlick]

Lol ur just an imature little fourteen y/o kidd

That's why you told me to "Gtfo dumb ass", right? Please, I could be a 9 year old kid and I'd still be more mature than you based on your response to my obvious joke.

 

[KingHashirama]

He didn't choose to leave Madara alive. Everyone thought Madara died during their battle, but he actually made a clever escape. He also had great reason to kill Madara. Madara was trying to overthrow Hashirama and take over the village. He wanted to kill him but wasn't good enough to get the job done.

Since then, Madara has gotten the rinnegan, unlimited chakra, and the inability to die. Quit being a fanboy and admit Hashirama couldn't take him on alone, even if he were alive and well...

Should read it over mate. Not the same fight your talking about.

 

[SilverSlick]

because summoning meteors doesn't factor into this equation

No it doesn't actually since there are not enough meteors credible enough to even pull down from outer space that's even within range of Earth. One was plot, the other was just..smh.

 

[FlareBlitz]

That's why you told me to "Gtfo dumb ass", right? Please, I could be a 9 year old kid and I'd still be more mature than you based on your response to my obvious joke.

Well if it was a joke my bad. But if not then yeah lol

 

[slamer330]

Hashi wanted to kill Madara, but he failed. I think that Madara actually let himself be beaten in order to allow him to escape into the shadows to allow his plans to be set in motion. Zetsu and others are all involved. Madara planned it all

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[KingHashirama]

Hashi wanted to kill Madara, but he failed. I think that Madara actually let himself be beaten in order to allow him to escape into the shadows to allow his plans to be set in motion. Zetsu and others are all involved. Madara planned it all

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Madara wanted to kill Hashi but failed. And then as a last resort he got his dna. Dna can be gathered many ways besides fighting. Madara came for War. Moons eye plan was after that fight.

And we still don't know anything from Hashirama's position.

 

[slamer330]

Madara wanted to kill Hashi but failed. And then as a last resort he got his dna. Dna can be gathered many ways besides fighting. Madara came for War. Moons eye plan was after that fight.

And we still don't know anything from Hashirama's position.

The only way we can know is from Madara since Hashi is in the Shinihami god's belly. Though I think that Madara did want to lose because he obviously had a plan going. When he is is brought back he says "this must be his doing" either referring to Zetsu or Obito. Kishi even said they (Madara and Tobi) know one another. We have seen Madara do terrifying things, so Hashi must be equally or even more god like to be able to beat him (though we are seeing Edo Madara right now and not EMS madara).

 

[KingHashirama]

The only way we can know is from Madara since Hashi is in the Shinihami god's belly. Though I think that Madara did want to lose because he obviously had a plan going. When he is is brought back he says "this must be his doing" either referring to Zetsu or Obito. Kishi even said they (Madara and Tobi) know one another. We have seen Madara do terrifying things, so Hashi must be equally or even more god like to be able to beat him (though we are seeing Edo Madara right now and not EMS madara).

Well it would be nice if he could Resurrected somehow. Or maybe Madara can explain what Hashirama's feelings were at that point. But im pretty sure Madara would have wanted to kill Hashirama instead of getting beat badly and then becoming a old powerless man (he got the rinnegan near his death sadly).

 

[slamer330]

Well it would be nice if he could Resurrected somehow. Or maybe Madara can explain what Hashirama's feelings were at that point. But im pretty sure Madara would have wanted to kill Hashirama instead of getting beat badly and then becoming a old powerless man (he got the rinnegan near his death sadly).

I feel like orochimaru might be the guy who could do just that. I still think that even if Madara wanted to win he still gave Nagato his eye in the end. though he would not be powerless. he would just need to stay hidden and out of sight until the right moment.

 

[KingHashirama]

I feel like orochimaru might be the guy who could do just that. I still think that even if Madara wanted to win he still gave Nagato his eye in the end. though he would not be powerless. he would just need to stay hidden and out of sight until the right moment.

Yea i think the same. ^.^ It would be epic if Oro could do that.

 

[drxdroopy]

hashi could not win against edo madara/hashi did not kill madara he wouldnt have been able to unlock the rinnegan if he died in that battle

 

[Lightbringer]

Well it would be nice if he could Resurrected somehow. Or maybe Madara can explain what Hashirama's feelings were at that point. But im pretty sure Madara would have wanted to kill Hashirama instead of getting beat badly and then becoming a old powerless man (he got the rinnegan near his death sadly).

What would killing Hashirama accomplish during that time? The uchiha turned against Madara for the sake of peace between senju and uchiha, and Tobirama would take the mantle of Hokage even if Hashi fell.

I doubt after turning their backs on Madara that the uchiha and senju would consider him for Hokage even if he killed Hashi....thus the most logical move would be for Madara to form a greater plan, i.e. "moon's eye plan" in which he needed Hashi's DNA....

you say there are other ways of obtaining his DNA....like what? we don't even know the specifics, he could have needed his blood, which could only be acquired through battle.

 

[KingHashirama]

What would killing Hashirama accomplish during that time? The uchiha turned against Madara for the sake of peace between senju and uchiha, and Tobirama would take the mantle of Hokage even if Hashi fell.

I doubt after turning their backs on Madara that the uchiha and senju would consider him for Hokage even if he killed Hashi....thus the most logical move would be for Madara to form a greater plan, i.e. "moon's eye plan" in which he needed Hashi's DNA....

you say there are other ways of obtaining his DNA....like what? we don't even know the specifics, he could have needed his blood, which could only be acquired through battle.

He wanted to kill hashirama... why the hell would you take the Kyuubi and get yourself partially killed and become wounded just for some cells.. Madara wanted Revenge.

Needed his blood?? something called scams or stealing it from the medics.

 

[ChidoriChimp]

Hashi and Madara were always equals, they progressed together as Sasuke and Naruto have. Edo Madara would win because he has been brought back. Edo Madara would equal Edo Hashi. Of course this is all my opinion but I believe it to be the truth.