DSM Kabuto VS. Healthy Nagato

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Joker said:
Countered that, you can't grab liquid as far as i'm concerned.
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These are exploits created by members of the group ''Kabuto's Fap Cave'' [
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Senpō: Dorō Dōmu | Exploit #1
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This exploit will only focus on Jirōbō's ability which Kabuto has gained as well due to the fact that he has Jirōbō's DNA inside him. [
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Just as stated above, Kabuto with Jirōbō's abilities should be capable of trapping the enemy within Dorō Dōmu [
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] which would then proceed to absorb the enemy's Chakra. [
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] Destroying it isn't an option due to the fact that it will simply repair itself once the target does some damage to it and the enemy's Jutsu will be absorbed. [
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] Also look at Kiba's comment. 'The ground as well!' which means that escaping the dome by trying to underground isn't an option. And please do note that this dome is capable of absorbing the enemy's Chakra rather quickly given Jirōbō's comment. [
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] We could furthermore confirm this by looking at what was happening to the targets trapped inside the dome. [
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] Naruto wasn't even capable of forming a Rasengan inside the dome. [
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However, Dorō Dōmu has a weak point which Shikamaru found out. [
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] from that spot in order to keep the enemy away. Then again, Kabuto could simply produce spikes from the whole insides of the Dorō Dōmu and kill the enemy that way considering that he can't evade the spikes.

Anyways, about the Dorō Dōmu's weak spot. It isn't that easy to break at all considering that they had to use something stronger than even Kiba's Gatsūga [
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] It will be even harder to break once Kabuto enhances it with Senjutsu and the enemy shouldn't be capable of approaching that spot due to Muki Tensei while enemies with the ability to absorb Chakra won't be capable of absorbing the dome due to the fact that Kabuto will keep on adding Senjutsu to it.



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Senpō: Doki: Makyō no Ran | Exploit #2
終曲第九節・魔境の乱
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After transplanting Tayuya's DNA to himself, Kabuto has gained Tayuya's abilities such as the Mateki: Mugen Onsa. [
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] This also means that he has gained access to Tayuya's Kuchiyose; the Doki. [
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] These Doki possess strenght that allows them to swing huge weapons which can easily crush a big tree branch. [
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] It took a while for Shikamaru to figure out the melody of the flute [
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] in order to learn the Doki's attack pattern, however, Tayuya has shown the ability to just change the melody and confuse the enemy just like Shikamaru was confused. [
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Anyways, what makes these Doki extremely dangerous is not their speed or strenght, it's the Makyō no Ran technique. It works by releasing three ethereal worms that feed on the enemy's physical energy [
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] They cannot be blocked because they are ethereal and they will easily pass throught physical objects such as a tree [
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] Shikamaru managed to escape the danger of these worms by using smoke bombs and the enviroment to hide himself so that Tayuya doesn't know where he is. [
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] Fortunately, Sennin Mōdo grants Kabuto the ability to sense. [
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The weakness of the Doki is that the enemy can attack it's summoner in order to stop them [
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] and Chidori Eisō without much difficulty. [
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The only option left is to try and absorb the ethereal worms since they are made out of Chakra, but since Kabuto can simply transfer Senjutsu to them, making them a Senpō, this won't really be really an intelligent move either.



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Senpō: Kumo Nenkin | Exploit #3
蜘蛛粘金
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This exploit will only focus on Kidōmaru's ability which Kabuto has gained as well due to the fact that he has Kidōmaru DNA inside him. [
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] Since Kabuto has gained Kidōmaru DNA and Jutsu then he should be more than capable of using All of Kidōmaru techs. Lets read the foundation of base Kidōmaru's technique: Kumo Nenkin



This Sticky Gold was also commented by Neji that it is the same material that creates his webs. [
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] This means two things: He can either make it as hard as Gold metal or make it sticky and elastic. Since it is powered by Senjutsu, this ability had brought this jutsu into another peak, to where it requires Enton, the highest level of heating capacity to destroy it. Meaning even with it's base form it mostly likely had the heating capacity of melting Gold. Because of it's material, the webs are even heavy enough to knock back human weight capacity. Well, two elephants to be exact. [
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] An example would be when Kidōmaru used Kumosōkai on Neji, it was only miniature webs that were able to knock him back [
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] The beauty of this jutsu is that it doesn't necessary form out of his mouth. It can also form throught his finger and hands, too [
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], possibly seeing that he can multitask with producing through his mouth and hands. [
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] As long as Kidōmaru is present in Kabuto's body, he is able to produce the said body fluid as Kidōmaru, meaning Gold Shield can be created. Kidōmaru commented that his Gold Shield is able to even block Chakra attacks. [
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The Beauty of Defense;​

Like I said, the web material can easily be one of the best defensive strategies Kabuto can produce. I have mentioned the weight of the jutsu and its durability. And last but not least, powered by Senjutsu, to top it all off. Kabuto can use this to block any elemental ninjutsu with his Gold Armor. He can also ruin the line of sight of characters via the web just like he did against Sasuke and Itachi. [
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] Because of it's elastic priorities, this jutsu can also possibly repel or deflect certain jutsu since Kidōmaru can decide if he wants it to be sticky or not [
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The Beauty of Offense;​

→ Webs: The webs need the "highest peak of jutsu" to break out of them. Once you are caught in it, it's over. Attempting to "try" and break free of the webs isn't an option since Kabuto would simply adding more [
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→ Gold Weapons: I'll compare the Gold arrow to Sasuke's arrow. Indeed that this jutsu is slower then Sasuke's, but what it makes up for is that it's more heavier [
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] [Wind blowing from the motion of the arrow], more destructive [
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] [Can penetrate the floor the same plus blunt power was shown], and can be guided. [
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→ Kyodaigumo: Having Kidōmaru's body/DNA = Kidōmaru's blood = Kidōmaru's Summon contract to Spiders. Depending on location, Kabuto can use the same strategy Kidōmaru can do with his Summon, since the Summon can also produce the same webs.

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Credit goes to EjBlack. I just made it look clean and posted it for him.​



Senpō: Sōma no Kō | Exploit #4
悪魔の暗殺
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This exploit will only focus on Sakon/Ukon's ability which Kabuto has gained as well due to the fact that he has Sakon/Ukon's DNA inside him. [
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Sakon already explains here how his attack works [
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In Kabuto's case, using his upgrade of his perceptual ability, enables him to perfect his defense by enabling Sakon to watch his back, legs, and arms. Sneak attacks and Body Flicker attacks are futile here, once Sakon is set up to be used.

Kabuto can also produce two to three times of his original damage to his attack. [
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Senpō: Kisei Kikai no Jutsu​

This jutsu can happen unexpectedly [
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Now I expect some people to bring up this as a counter [
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Senpō: Shikotsumyaku | Exploit #5
ファイブ致命的舞曲
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Due to possessing Kimimaro's DNA inside of himself, Kabuto has now gained access to Kimimaro's five dances as seen when he was capable of using the last of Kimimaro's five dances; Sawarabi no Mai. [
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The first dance; Yanagi no Mai;


Kabuto can use this technique to make two Bone Swords from Kimimaro's body which he can use in CQC [
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] However, these Bones Swords are even better than Sasuke's blade since they are as solid as steel [
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] and they were capable of blocking a slash from a Chakra enhanced blade. [
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] And to make him even more dangerous, he can produce Bone Swords from his elbows and knees as well. [
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] To make these Bone Swords even more dangerous, Kabuto can envelope them in Chakura no Mesu which was able to block a slash from Sasuke's Kusanagi. [
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The second dance; Tsubaki no Mai;


The second dance is basically the same as the first dance except for one ability; to make afterimages which won't allow the enemy to keep up with Kabuto in CQC. [
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The third dance; Karamatsu no Mai;


This dance will pretty much make Kabuto untouchable in CQC considering that he will now be capable of tanking many attacks due to Kimimaro's bones which are as solid as steel [
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The fourth dance; Tassenka no Mai;


Just like stated above, Kabuto along with his speed wouldn't have trouble pulling out a Bone Whip and enveloping the enemy in it considering that the whip is quite fast. [
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The fifth dance; Sawarabi no Mai;


This will pretty much kill anyone who can't fly since they cannot be blocked by a defense such as Gaara's Suna due to the fact that they emerge from the ground, under the enemy's feet. [
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Kabuto can take this medium to high difficulty.
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1st exploit.

This is next to useless against Nagato. It can absorb chakra, but it in no way, has been stated to absorb ninjutsu. Chakra absorption/=/ ninjutsu absorption as evident on how wood dragon absorbs chakra, yet gets destroyed by ninjutsu.

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Regeneration is useless if the barrier is completely destroyed. Almighty push is a powerful omni-directional attack which will completely destroy it. power example.

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An almighty push from Pain which is not chou shira tensei blasted the summoning toads far away and one-shotted them by breaking every bone in their body. Nagato's is stated to be much stronger than Pain's. You're fooling yourself if you think Nagato will be trapped by this jutsu.



2nd exploit

You're forgetting a vital detail.... The worms come from summons, and they're vulnerable to attack. Nagato doesn't even need deva for this. Asura will suffice.

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3rd exploit


This is next to useless as what makes the webs strong is chakra, which is absorbed by preta path.


4th exploit.


This is nothing special as Nagato can form multiple limbs and heads as well, which actually surpass Sakkon's ability.

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5th exploit.


How unfortunate for you that Nagato can fly.
 
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Indraboi said:
@First point Incorrect, where does it ever explicitly say he has to grab the part of the body he is soul ripping? As you can see here [
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] he doesn't necessarily have to grab the person. He simply needs to surround his hand with that chakra/aura like substance to begin his extraction. What prevents him from simply touching the puddle of water Kabuto is in and soul rip it.

You misunderstood my point. You stated he is 'known for his snake clones' when he is not. It is your assumption that he is known for them because he used them several times in a fight, it doesn't make him known for it. Being known for something is like Kakashi's sharingan, hence his nickname, Minato for his speed, hence his nickname. Kabuto having shown excessive use of snake clones in a single fight does by no means make him famous for it.

Only because I am a Nagato fan doesn't mean I will go balls deep to make him look like he's undefinable. Many people can defeat him and many people will lose to him, and Kabuto is just another one of those who will inevitably lose.
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What the...? :|

No, Nagato has shown grabbing a shinobi's head and the other scan he is grabbing naruto's stomache.

He need physical contact in order to use Human path, don't make sh*t up.

Also, yes I'm right that Kabuto is known to use snake substitute in his battle.

We only saw DSM Kabuto fight once, and he used the liquid snake substitute in this only battle he had.

So it is not an assumption if he used it in battle Lol.

You need to know what assumption means first, before posting it in something like this.

You're going balls deep into this Nagato thing my friend, to the point that it is not making complete sense anymore.

^^That's how you know it is biased...
 
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Are all of deva's other abilities a factor? If so then nagato wins.
 
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VariaBossX said:
What the...? :|

No, Nagato has shown grabbing a shinobi's head and the other scan he is grabbing naruto's stomache.

He need physical contact in order to use Human path, don't make sh*t up.

Also, yes I'm right that Kabuto is known to use snake substitute in his battle.

We only saw DSM Kabuto fight once, and he used the liquid snake substitute in this only battle he had.

So it is not an assumption if he used it in battle Lol.

You need to know what assumption means first, before posting it in something like this.

You're going balls deep into this Nagato thing my friend, to the point that it is not making complete sense.

^^That's how you know it is biased...
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Lol. I never knew it was possible to grab Naruto's stomach from an external standpoint, must be some phasing hands he's got their. He is simply touching it. Anyways, I am not going to go back and forth in an argument you're too stubborn to accept. How about this, once he's in the 'puddle' he has no actual way of attacking Nagato. He must 'solidify' in order to fight again. 1. Nagato patiently waits for him to slowly solidify, as it is not instant, and then proceed to soul rip. 2. Nagato has been said to posses all 5 chakra elements. I am by no means giving him featless abilities, since it is not a jutsu I am granting him. I am simply saying he covers his hand with raiton type chakra and touches the puddle. This is definitely possible since Naruto could transfer his chakra type through paper prior to having known what his chakra type was and how to control it [
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Once again, you fail to see my point. He is not known for it. It is his first battle ever in SM. No one actually knows he excessively uses it bar Sasuke and Itachi. This absolutely confirms he is not known for it since only 2 people know of it. Incase you didn't know 2 people=/= Naruto verse. Him using it does not automatically make him known for it. And lol, telling me I don't know what an assumption and my post doesn't make sense is funny, considering your english is actually lacking. I am going balls deep? My friend? That's how I know it is biased? Please, go easier on me. I can't handle the logicality you are demonstrating.
 
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Guys seriously stop with the walls of text, you're giving my brain a seizure. Also to whoever said Nagato could fly by himself alone was wrong. He can only levitate. The only way he can "fly" is by getting on his bird.
 
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Nagato's counter to his sound-based genjutsu?
 
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Indraboi said:
Lol. I never knew it was possible to grab Naruto's stomach from an external standpoint, must be some phasing hands he's got their. He is simply touching it. Anyways, I am not going to go back and forth in an argument you're too stubborn to accept. How about this, once he's in the 'puddle' he has no actual way of attacking Nagato. He must 'solidify' in order to fight again. 1. Nagato patiently waits for him to slowly solidify, as it is not instant, and then proceed to soul rip. 2. Nagato has been said to posses all 5 chakra elements. I am by no means giving him featless abilities, since it is not a jutsu I am granting him. I am simply saying he covers his hand with raiton type chakra and touches the puddle. This is definitely possible since Naruto could transfer his chakra type through paper prior to having known what his chakra type was and how to control it [
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Once again, you fail to see my point. He is not known for it. It is his first battle ever in SM. No one actually knows he excessively uses it bar Sasuke and Itachi. This absolutely confirms he is not known for it since only 2 people know of it. Incase you didn't know 2 people=/= Naruto verse. Him using it does not automatically make him known for it. And lol, telling me I don't know what an assumption and my post doesn't make sense is funny, considering your english is actually lacking. I am going balls deep? My friend? That's how I know it is biased? Please, go easier on me. I can't handle the logicality you are demonstrating.
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Please revise this thing, it's not making the slightest sense whatsoever.

I beg you :|

Nagato placed his hand on all the victims you use Human path, end of story.

Whether it be grab or touching, the concept is physical contact.

Don't try to act smart, it's sad really...

Mastering the 5 element, by all means what?

We haven't seen nor heard that Nagato can use Raiton on his hand.

So that is what you call a baseless assumption on your part.

Neither you forget, that DSM Kabuto has multiple hydration snakes.

He's not going to pick up the right snake off 1-5 picks. :|

Kabuto used white rage once, does that mean he will never use that technique in a chronic battle?

Don't try to patronize me on my grammar, I would smash you if I were to take you anymore seriously.
 
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PlasticAngelx said:
Location: Itachi and Sasuke VS. Kabuto
Condition: Nagato is healthy, Kabuto starts in DSM.
Intel: Manga
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Lets see here.

Kabuto's location[CHECK]
Opponent is alive and in flesh[CHECK]

The fight is already over. Fighting against Kabuto while you alive, inside the cave is instantly win for Kabuto. No counter to White Rage, period.

There is no need to drag this discussion any further unless/until the battle is open-field.

Now I am seeing alot of people stating ST counters White Rage. INCORRECT.

People need to understand that the orb and dragon a separate function. The dragon shows nothing that implies the works of the orb, producing light and sound. All the manga shows is protect the orb itself, thats all. Now if someone explains to me what the dragon does that functions light and sound, I will glad conceded as the dragon is literally made from Kabuto's body fluids.[
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With that said the dragon entity will simply take the blow from ST (even though Nagato only shown to ST at ninjutsu thats close to him and about to hit him. Especially with Manda Intel). The orb will still be set off from the direction it will land. Which means nothing as the effects of White Rage effected the whole field anyway. This is a perfect example of what White Rage will do against Nagato

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Notice how a Smoke bomb attach to a Kunai was still able to activate after being repel with the Kunai? Same applies to White Rage.

The fight is over once White Rage sets off.

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It doesn't totally numb the body either, considering the fact Sasuke and Itachi were capable to protect their sense of hearing. Nagato can use the time to avoid Kabuto's attack/protect himself with a shield(either shinra tensei or summoning shield)

Nagato can protect himself with a summoning shield while destroying the cave. He isn't forced to destroy the entire cave either. Blowing up the incoming muki tensei would be the only priority. He may even decide to blow up only a side of the cave in order to have more rooms in his attacks. The Sawarabi no Mai is weaker than the muki tensei in everything and only comes from one side. Itachi managed to stop its course after cuting the front, so against a frontal shinra tensei, it would have the same result
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Wrong wrong wrong, using Itachi as an example does not support your claims, as an Edo has inconsistant feels as a fleshly character. We have to go by Sasuke's standards with the effects as he was alive.

You aren't even reading if you state that Sasuke can block their hearing (lol what). Even after White Rage finished they were still covering their ears from the aftershock[
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Every Path tech needs to mold chakra, period. Even Petra Path, as Hashirama demonstrated and countered. You cannot mold chakra properly in these conditions, period.

Once again you are:

1. Paralyzed in these condition
2. You cannot mold chakra properly in these conditions.

The fight will be over in these conditions.
 
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This is literally really close. Both sides make excellent points.
 

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Kabuto's versatility and wide range of techniques will surely make him the victor. Besides, Nagato can never hurt him, thanks to his healing prowess. Also, Nagato has yet to show a counter for the list of techniques:

-White Rage
-Genjutsu
-Orochimaru's poison

Kabuto mid diff.
 
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EjBlack said:
Now I am seeing alot of people stating ST counters White Rage. INCORRECT.

People need to understand that the orb and dragon a separate function. The dragon shows nothing that implies the works of the orb, producing light and sound. All the manga shows is protect the orb itself, thats all. Now if someone explains to me what the dragon does that functions light and sound, I will glad conceded as the dragon is literally made from Kabuto's body fluids.[
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With that said the dragon entity will simply take the blow from ST (even though Nagato only shown to ST at ninjutsu thats close to him and about to hit him. Especially with Manda Intel). The orb will still be set off from the direction it will land. Which means nothing as the effects of White Rage effected the whole field anyway. This is a perfect example of what White Rage will do against Nagato

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Notice how a Smoke bomb attach to a Kunai was still able to activate after being repel with the Kunai? Same applies to White Rage.

The fight is over once White Rage sets off.
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Idk why you think s/t is weak.

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That is a shinra tensei, so there's absolutely no way that white rage is going to affect nagato after being sent so far away & with such force.

You showed the one scan of a vulnerable pein using a weak shinra tensei to deflect a simple kunai, why would nagato do the same thing in this situation?
 
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