DSM Kabuto & Current KM naruto vs EMS sasuke & Minato

[Brother Numpsay]

You haven't provided any reason Perfect Susano'o won't just slice it to bits.

1.The length and size of Manda 2 would already reach PS.
2. Underground tactic like Manda 1 did to Bunta. Use Tail as Diversion (Or Sacrifice if from PS slash), then come from behind[

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Oh I didn't thats interesting.

 

[Booker]

Oh I didn't thats interesting.

Right, because Madara won't be able to predict with an EMS Sharingan where Manda II will end up?

On top of that, how the hell is Manda II going to completely bury itself before it gets slashed? That's an enourmous snake. Can you show me speed feats for it? No?

Game, set, and match.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Right, because Madara won't be able to predict with an EMS Sharingan where Manda II will end up?

On top of that, how the hell is Manda II going to completely bury itself before it gets slashed? That's an enourmous snake. Can you show me speed feats for it? No?

Game, set, and match.

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-Lol at you thinking he can. You think because they can see Color Chakra, they automatically can detect things underground. When that fails many times in the manga to a Sharingan user. Kakashi, Itachi, and Sasuke still had been fooled from attack underneath.

-Fail once again, to cover my premise. I already made the point that Manda II length would already cover the distance between PS. But if I need to educate you much further [

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]. Everything is upgrade from Manda I. With its keen senses, it can use its jaw to grab the swing process, much the examples I already post. Not only that, just by comparing the weaker version via Manda I: It was able to avoid an attack at point blank[

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]. Manda II size can easily maneuver underwater for its size[

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]. Manda II was also quick enough to coil around the Turtle Island's spikes before Deidara made it flip with his bomb[

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]. So we have excellent sensory and speed to make up from his size. Which can easily predict the sword slash and protect its head.

Not only that, but all of Kabuto's experimental Summons carry the trait to liquify and regenerate[

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Try again.

 

[Booker]

-Lol at you thinking he can. You think because they can see Color Chakra, they automatically can detect things underground. When that fails many times in the manga to a Sharingan user. Kakashi, Itachi, and Sasuke still had been fooled from attack underneath.

-Fail once again, to cover my premise. I already made the point that Manda II length would already cover the distance between PS. But if I need to educate you much further [

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]. Everything is upgrade from Manda I. With its keen senses, it can use its jaw to grab the swing process, much the examples I already post. Not only that, just by comparing the weaker version via Manda I: It was able to avoid an attack at point blank[

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]. Manda II size can easily maneuver underwater for its size[

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]. Manda II was also quick enough to coil around the Turtle Island's spikes before Deidara made it flip with his bomb[

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]. So we have excellent sensory and speed to make up from his size. Which can easily predict the sword slash and protect its head.

Not only that, but all of Kabuto's experimental Summons carry the trait to liquify and regenerate[

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Try again.

- Sasuke saw chakra through the ground against Deidara.

- Need those speed feats you're neglecting to give me, otherwise PS cuts it to pieces before it can make a move.

- That last scan is a joke, lmao, it's just proof of your wank. Manda II can not liquify lelelelel. In fact, I'd love if you would just say "Manda II can liquify" so I can put it in my sig.

Still haven't stated anything accurate that prevents Manda II from being obliterated.

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[Nattana]

Actually, Manda 2 is times bigger than Sasuke's Susanoo.

1. Manda 2.

Kabuto hid in Manda 2's nose hole. He was roughly 1/3 as big as that hole. That nose hole is like 1/300 or even less or Manda 2's head. So Manda 2's head is 900+ times bigger than Kabuto.

At the second scan we have I think the best view at Manda 2 size. Considering that it's not even its full body shown at that pic, since there's a great part of its body is cut, since we canot see its legs, we can say that Manda 2's full size is like 15+ times bigger than its head, so more than 13500 times bigger than a human!

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2. Sasuke's Susanoo.

Now take look at Sasuke's Susanoo. It's MAYBE 500-600 times bigger than him.

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3. Comparison.

I think it's obvious - Manda 2 is at least 28 times bigger than Sasuke's Susanoo, has 2 legs and 2 claws and a powerful binding force.
Actually, Manda 2 may be even bigger, but I leave calculations up to some more experienced users :3

Cheers.

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Some corrections done.

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Now that I checked, Kabuto is 9cm higher than Sasuke, so it means the difference in Manda 2 and Susanoo size is even bigger than 28 times!

 

[Brother Numpsay]

- Sasuke saw chakra through the ground against Deidara.

- Need those speed feats you're neglecting to give me, otherwise PS cuts it to pieces before it can make a move.

- That last scan is a joke, lmao, it's just proof of your wank. Manda II can not liquify lelelelel. In fact, I'd love if you would just say "Manda II can liquify" so I can put it in my sig.

Still haven't stated anything accurate that prevents Manda II from being obliterated.

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-no sht, you have a problem reading, for the fact that you just finish writing what I just post. Fact remains Sharingan users still fall for underneath attacks, and underground tactics still work on them much like Sasuke[

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]. Now it seems in most of your threads, you need someone to guide you to reading manga. Do I need to show you Kakashi and Itachi failing?

-Oh look your asking to what I already gave you. Sure whenever you learn how to read:

-Fail once again, to cover my premise. I already made the point that Manda II length would already cover the distance between PS. But if I need to educate you much further [

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]. Everything is upgrade from Manda I. With its keen senses, it can use its jaw to grab the swing process, much the examples I already post. Not only that, just by comparing the weaker version via Manda I: It was able to avoid an attack at point blank[

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]. Manda II size can easily maneuver underwater for its size[

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]. Manda II was also quick enough to coil around the Turtle Island's spikes before Deidara made it flip with his bomb[

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]. So we have excellent sensory and speed to make up from his size. Which can easily predict the sword slash and protect its head.

@Quote, in the end nothing suggest its too slow to pick up an incoming attack.

-Its funny how you always seem so confident and yet every argument with you always end up looking stupid. Brings me back to the times when you made that Hidan thread, that he never tank Kakuzu's tank. Good laughs. Where was I, oh right, breaking down how to read manga:
Once again everything Manda I can do, Kabuto has upgrade it, fact[

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]. Manda I was to use a technique called body shed[

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]. Something that was able to take Katon and Oil mix. Now since the timeline of Manda II is war arc, this means Kabuto's developed body shed tech is not the same as Manda I in the past. It does not fit in the manga timeline therefore you can't contradict it by saying it goes back to downgrade version.

 

[Unorthodox]

@Ej

Perfect susanoo has enough physical strength to tear manda to pieces not to mention its shockwaves you claim manda comes underground PS simply jumps out the way then killing also your methond of restricting susanoo wouldnt work anyways because sasuke has can manipulate enton around his susanoo but why was ps even discussed when i restricted it anyways?

1 Amaterasu kills it he trys to shed skin enton just spreads on the skin useless also gamabunta oil plus enton GN Kabuto & naruto

 

[Booker]

-no sht, you have a problem reading, for the fact that you just finish writing what I just post. Fact remains Sharingan users still fall for underneath attacks, and underground tactics still work on them much like Sasuke[

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]. Now it seems in most of your threads, you need someone to guide you to reading manga. Do I need to show you Kakashi and Itachi failing?

-Oh look your asking to what I already gave you. Sure whenever you learn how to read:


@Quote, in the end nothing suggest its too slow to pick up an incoming attack.

-Its funny how you always seem so confident and yet every argument with you always end up looking stupid. Brings me back to the times when you made that Hidan thread, that he never tank Kakuzu's tank. Good laughs. Where was I, oh right, breaking down how to read manga:
Once again everything Manda I can do, Kabuto has upgrade it, fact[

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]. Manda I was to use a technique called body shed[

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]. Something that was able to take Katon and Oil mix. Now since the timeline of Manda II is war arc, this means Kabuto's developed body shed tech is not the same as Manda I in the past. It does not fit in the manga timeline therefore you can't contradict it by saying it goes back to downgrade version.

Not even worth countering, everybody already thinks you're a fool if you think Manda II trumps PS.

Please, before I go, just say "Manda II can liquify" please for my sig.

 

[Nattana]

Not even worth countering, everybody already thinks you're a fool if you think Manda II trumps PS.

Please, before I go, just say "Manda II can liquify" please for my sig.

Lol, Manda 2 would rip Susanoo to pieces. Read my previous post.

 

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[NarutoIndra]

Ever heard the saying the bigger they are the harder they fall?
In Naruto sense he just did a perfect way to counter the force. One was the compression of chakra shrod, making physical attack useless. And the other was the tactic he used, via tail stab on ground. Which act as break to not make him move anywhere. So I fail to see how this concludes, even when bigger, doesn't validate it having any strength.

You seem to think believe strength is irrelevant to size. That is out of context in regards to my words. I simply said, size isn't everything, as smaller creature can have much more strength than bigger creatures. SM Naruto, can have more strength than things much larger than him. Chakra arm has more strength than v2-v3 Susano sword swipe. Fukasaku picked up and threw Bunta. Size isn't everything, if you see my point. Manda II has strength, but not remotely comparable to PS, who has a larger size, a stronger posture, a harder outer 'skin', a sincere chakra, and most importantly, brute force. Manda I has decent strength. Manda II should've more strength, but I still don't see it adding up relatively close to PS, seeing as how it has no feats. Kabuto saying it is much stronger doesn't mean you give it hype to overpower on of the offensively strongest things in NV.

Your not being honest with the explosions. Please tell me how this "c1" you claim(if its even c1), is much weaker then the "c2" that was fired at Sasuke. Your simply downplaying Manda II feats. In fact Manda I has shown better feats when Kabuto already classified it being much better and every aspect.

It is indeed C1...
The C's go up by strength, and even if they didn't, it remains obvious the C2 used on Sasuke had more clay infused with it, and was of greater explosion radius. I don't see how you came to your conclusion when one can clearly see there's no comparison with the two explosions. And no I am not downplaying anything, you are simply overestimating him too much. He is the strongest summon in the manga. Doesn't mean he's overpowering PS, not the slightest chance to do so, considering one hand of PS turns Manda II into a hoola hoop.

 

[Booker]

Lol, Manda 2 would rip Susanoo to pieces.

New sig, awesome.

 

[KidGamer65]

-Please tell me how you swing when both arms will be hold on to. it's impossible to swing a weapon or your fist from the range that you are getting warped up.

Cause PS is going to sit there and watch as Manda II with its nonexistent strength feats, restrains Perfect Susanoo's arms? lmao, no. It tries this and it gets bisected, simple as that.

-Concerning Doton/Muki Tensei was the argument of Madara swinging downward. Madara has shown he does it when trying to reach a smaller target. People tend to act like PS mountain cutter has pin point accurate to aim at smaller targets. Even the manga has shown it twice that it isn't. Which is why Madara slashes downward to get the aim right

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Irrelevant, it still packs the same force to cut distant Mountains behind the swing so this doesn't refute my point at all.

-@Bold, don't be ridiculous, A Wood Golem was able to hold on to its arm and that things has no suggest of a feat to even have the capacity to lift island level weight capacity. Manda I already shown impressive feat to stop a sword slash[

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]. A snake, Anaconda to be exact, that uses squeeze as a defensive and offensive use, shows scientific proof that just a small snake can squeeze a human, feeling like you are having a bus land on top of your chest. An island monster suppressing is much more, obviously.

That's not how it goes, you don't say Manda can do it just because Mokujin did so as well.

-Manda II never showed the capacity to lift island weight either so you have no point here. Wrapping around Turtle Island=/=Lifting it up.

-:leaf: Manda I caught Bunta's sword, we are talking about Perfect Susanoo and its blade. Moot comparison, moot point.

There is zero proof in your post up until this point, that lets me believe Manda can hope to restrict PS.

@lol underline, holding down an island turtle is not strong because lol. Please tell me if Wood Dragon can do that. Please tell me if PS is able to do this.

Wrapping around Island Turtle and squeezing it with its body doesn't mean it'll do the same to Susanoo, which is stronger than the Island Turtle. Whether Mokuryu or PS can do that is irrelevant here.

@ Bold: I hope your not talking about Manda II, I really hope you aren't. Even if Manda II has no limbs he can use its mouth much like how Manda I did to stop Bunta's sword swing.

Manda II has hands, this I know, but its hands are too small to be relevant here.

Stop wanking. If Manda tries to catch PS's blade in its mouth, it gets cut in half, no discussion here.

Who said anything about holding back. The whole point of using Doton and Muki Tensei is to block the swing thats all. PS can do whatever it wants at this point has to whole point was to block its downward cut. The whole argument was defensive much like the scans I posts via blocking sword. Kabuto using Doton and Muki Tensei, was never to do a play by play of what Harashima did to block and attack like in the manga.

Doton or Muki Tensei can't do shit to PS in the first place.

So what can Kabuto do? Like I said blocking and holding down from attacking via Manda II. Simple way is to simply bypass and cancel Sussanoo [

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Some people say the sound won't travel that far and I would just lol. What can satisfy peoples argument is simply using Manda II as a ledge/platform to reach enough height so the PS will not have no excuses to escape the sound. Just simply come out of or play the Sound Genjutsu out of Manda II noes[

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All the while Madara sits there like a clown fiddling with his thumbs...lol no.

-Manda isn't reaching PS's height before it gets cut down.

-Manda isn't reaching PS's height as it can't stand at its full height to begin with, it needs its lower body to support it.

Manda II gets raped. No difficulty.

-Can't hurt PS.
-Can't stop its attacks.

All you've tried to do is hand over Mokujin's feats to Manda and say that since it can restrict Turtle Island, it can restrict PS, based on nothing but size. Hashirama could restrict the Juubi but guess what happened against Obito? It failed, hard.

Since when? Each stage of Sussanoo displayed a different weapon choice. I would wait for your proof before you make that claim.

No, each version of Susanoo has shown to hold whatever weapon Sasuke chooses.

Ribcage and V2 (Skeletal) have no weapons.

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at different points in time.

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at different points in time.

Gonna need some legit reasoning that shows why PS can't wield an Enton Blade.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not even worth countering, everybody already thinks you're a fool if you think Manda II trumps PS.

Please, before I go, just say "Manda II can liquify" please for my sig.

Interesting, I'm loving it. Where do I begin with this post. Should I attack you with a "lel, classic cop out".
Or add on to the taste of "insults" backfiring at you. Since clearly your last post is shows tasting your own medicine.
And who's "everyone" you speak of? Even your not sure since you added an "if" in your sentence. Confuse guy you are. Maybe that should be sig worthy for me?

Oh but of course the desperate " I need to a sig from you desperately to feel better for myself". How long have you been trying to pull that stunt on me, yea its pretty pathetic. Should I made it in pretty font for you. This will make my written less easy for me. Here you go:

Kabuto modification experiment has shown that he implant them from his personal summoning. Example was his Hidden Snake tech (according to Kishimoto that classifies it as Summoning)[

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] able to share Kabuto's personal liquidation and regeneration . Fitting in the time-line of these personal modification fits the evidence that shouldn't exclude the snake he created, Manda II.

@Ej

Perfect susanoo has enough physical strength to tear manda to pieces not to mention its shockwaves you claim manda comes underground PS simply jumps out the way then killing also your methond of restricting susanoo wouldnt work anyways because sasuke has can manipulate enton around his susanoo but why was ps even discussed when i restricted it anyways?

1 Amaterasu kills it he trys to shed skin enton just spreads on the skin useless also gamabunta oil plus enton GN Kabuto & naruto

Wtf did I just read. Anyway this hypothetical topic got way out of hand and off topic. So I won't add anything else until a on topic scenario thread is made.

@NarutoIndra: To be continue, until an on topic thread for this is made
@Kidgamer65: To be continue, until an on topic thread for this is made

 

[adeshina365]

This ****ing thread.

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Just when you think you've heard it all, this board proves you wrong.

From Manda II being stronger than Perfect Susanoo to Sasuke's Susanoo apparently being limited to certain weapons in each stage.

Thankfully there are still some sane members on this board to counter this nonsense.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

And Narutobase has yet to show how to read what people are saying. But yet jump the bandwagon of others not reading right either, which creates a cycle of.. I won't go there. The off topic flame war is over.

 

[Booker]

Interesting, I'm loving it. Where do I begin with this post. Should I attack you with a "lel, classic cop out".
Or add on to the taste of "insults" backfiring at you. Since clearly your last post is shows tasting your own medicine.
And who's "everyone" you speak of? Even your not sure since you added an "if" in your sentence. Confuse guy you are. Maybe that should be sig worthy for me?

Oh but of course the desperate " I need to a sig from you desperately to feel better for myself". How long have you been trying to pull that stunt on me, yea its pretty pathetic. Should I made it in pretty font for you. This will make my written less easy for me. Here you go:

Kabuto modification experiment has shown that he implant them from his personal summoning. Example was his Hidden Snake tech (according to Kishimoto that classifies it as Summoning)[

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][

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] able to share Kabuto's personal liquidation and regeneration . Fitting in the time-line of these personal modification fits the evidence that shouldn't exclude the snake he created, Manda II.




Wtf did I just read. Anyway this hypothetical topic got way out of hand and off topic. So I won't add anything else until a on topic scenario thread is made.

@NarutoIndra: To be continue, until an on topic thread for this is made
@Kidgamer65: To be continue, until an on topic thread for this is made

I don't have a way with words, which is why I usually stop debating. Kidgamer has already sh*t all over you and you refuse to counter him Lol

 

[adeshina365]

And Narutobase has yet to show how to read what people are saying. But yet jump the bandwagon of others not reading right either, which creates a cycle of.. I won't go there. The off topic flame war is over.

Your notion of Manda 2 being stronger than PS is nonsense, it's not even worth getting into. Your statement about Sasuke's Susanoo stages having limited weapons has already been proven false by Kidgamer.

I guess I shouldn't expect too much from a post who asserts that Itachi used the Totsuka Blade to break through Kimmimaro's bones.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

(Sigh) So the flame war is starting again, am I presuming?

 

[Booker]

(Sigh) So the flame war is starting again, am I presuming?

Not at all, I've opted out of any flame wars/debating. I'm just here as a spectator, and I'm eagerly awaiting your counter to KG.