DSM Kabuto & Current KM naruto vs EMS sasuke & Minato

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@Bold: ST is not even a killing blow but more for repelling. Something Kakashi was able to tank.
Rest of your sentence, needs to reevaluate Manda II height and size when you get the chance.

I fully understand ST isn't meant to kill, but it still exerts a tonne of force seeing as how all three toads had their bones broken here [ ]-->[ ] when Bunta could tank Shikaku's Futon release without any noticeable damage. Nevertheless, Naruto v2, which isn't much bigger than Naruto himself, completely overpowered ST, and even repelled it back to Pain himself at point blank range [ ], which says a lot about size not necessarily meaning more strength then something which is smaller i.e. Susano.

Shockwave travel, your statement states no reason why it wasn't impressive. Manda II has all the evidence he needs to suppress PS. I already broken down these feats: (3rd spoiler)

Yes, shockwaves travel, but at a much smaller scale power under water due to the water's resistance. It wasn't that impressive because Deidara could flip over a creature as big as the turtle island when hitting the strongest part in its body, the shell, with C1. CM2 Sasuke tanked C2 attacks which were stronger than this C1 [ ], further proving turtle island is quite weak. However, it does not stop here. Manda II was strangling a turtle, who can't fight back and has no shell on his neck, in contrast to the part Deidara used C1 in, which did. This shows that Manda II's feats isn't that great, as CM2 Sasuke has better endurability feats than all Turtle Islands shell. Although the exploits you made are rather interesting..
 

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This logic makes no sense. restricting something doesn't mean it's greater then everything about the other in aspect.

So you're saying PS > Manda II now?

In that case, your argument goes down the drain.
 

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I fully understand ST isn't meant to kill, but it still exerts a tonne of force seeing as how all three toads had their bones broken here [ ]-->[ ] when Bunta could tank Shikaku's Futon release without any noticeable damage. Nevertheless, Naruto v2, which isn't much bigger than Naruto himself, completely overpowered ST, and even repelled it back to Pain himself at point blank range [ ], which says a lot about size not necessarily meaning more strength then something which is smaller i.e. Susano.

Ever heard the saying the bigger they are the harder they fall?
In Naruto sense he just did a perfect way to counter the force. One was the compression of chakra shrod, making physical attack useless. And the other was the tactic he used, via tail stab on ground. Which act as break to not make him move anywhere. So I fail to see how this concludes, even when bigger, doesn't validate it having any strength.



Yes, shockwaves travel, but at a much smaller scale power under water due to the water's resistance. It wasn't that impressive because Deidara could flip over a creature as big as the turtle island when hitting the strongest part in its body, the shell, with C1. CM2 Sasuke tanked C2 attacks which were stronger than this C1 [ ], further proving turtle island is quite weak. However, it does not stop here. Manda II was strangling a turtle, who can't fight back and has no shell on his neck, in contrast to the part Deidara used C1 in, which did. This shows that Manda II's feats isn't that great, as CM2 Sasuke has better endurability feats than all Turtle Islands shell. Although the exploits you made are rather interesting..

Your not being honest with the explosions. Please tell me how this "c1" you claim(if its even c1), is much weaker then the "c2" that was fired at Sasuke. Your simply downplaying Manda II feats. In fact Manda I has shown better feats when Kabuto already classified it being much better and every aspect.
 

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So you're saying PS > Manda II now?

In that case, your argument goes down the drain.

Learn how to read a premise or stfu.

Premise 1: Sussanoo deadly force comes from sword swing
Premise 2: Manda II size and limbs has the right tactics to restrain it from it destructive swing.
Premise 3: Kabuto can use Manda II height, by hiding on its noes, to be close enough for PS user to hear the Genjutsu. Thus shooting down users chakra.
Conclusion: Manda II has the right tools that benefit of beating Perfect Sussanoo

In no way is PS better than Manda II.

If you think so enlighten this thread.
 

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Learn how to read a premise or stfu.

Premise 1: Sussanoo deadly force comes from sword swing
Premise 2: Manda II size and limbs has the right tactics to restrain it from it destructive swing.
Premise 3: Kabuto can use Manda II height, by hiding on its noes, to be close enough for PS user to hear the Genjutsu. Thus shooting down users chakra.
Conclusion: Manda II has the right tools that benefit of beating Perfect Sussanoo



If you think so enlighten this thread.

Lol

So I'm still confused then; if you don't think Manda II > Perfect Susano'o, then how the hell is it going to restrain PS??
 

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Lets not overrate Manda II to this level now. It's not taking on Perfect Susanoo, not a chance.

-Yeah, Hashirama did that, but then got that hand and the other five obliterated by PS's second sword swing, if Manda reaches up to wrap around PS and restrict it, it swings its blade and bisects the snake. Also, Doton or Muki Tensei using the ground isn't going to stop Perfect Susanoo's sword swing when it cuts through Mountains, don't be ridiculous. What strength feats has Manda II even shown that justify him restricting PS completely? None. His best is wrapping around Turtle Island, which isn't even strong.

-Since Manda has no hands, I'm assuming that this is for Doton and Muki Tensei to replicate...lmao..not sure if serious. Kabuto doesn't have Doton on the scale to hold Perfect Susanoo back when its physically capable of cutting distant Mountains with its sword, same goes for Muki Tensei. This all assumes PS sits there and waits instead of attacking.

Also, this isn't beating PS, this is holding it off.

Not to mention this is Sasuke, which means his PS can wield Enton Blades, making catching the blade impossible now.

Manda 2 has hands...
 

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Lol

So I'm still confused then; if you don't think Manda II > Perfect Susano'o, then how the hell is it going to restrain PS??

Jesus, just accept that your an idiot at this point, and will no longer feed you post.


I got everything I need to know about Manda II, convince them
 

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Jesus, just accept that your an idiot at this point, and will no longer feed you post.



I got everything I need to know about Manda II, convince them

Lol, classic cop-out.

Perfect Susano'o sh*ts all over Manda II and now you're too embarrassed to admit it. That's cute.
 

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Jesus, just accept that your an idiot at this point, and will no longer feed you post.



I got everything I need to know about Manda II, convince them

No as in, they literally just need to read it and then they'll know what they're dealing with. If there's no bias then it's clear as day. But ohhh...yeah...bias...

Good luck with that :/
 

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No as in, they literally just need to read it and then they'll know what they're dealing with. If there's no bias then it's clear as day. But ohhh...yeah...bias...

Good luck with that :/

The wank is real
 

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Lol, classic cop-out.

Perfect Susano'o sh*ts all over Manda II and now you're too embarrassed to admit it. That's cute.

Classic cop out? I litteraly broke it down to you as simple as possible. Giving up on your intelligence is not coping out. Well maybe you your term.
 

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Classic cop out? I litteraly broke it down to you as simple as possible. Giving up on your intelligence is not coping out. Well maybe you your term.

(1) Learn English

(2) Perfect Susano'o chops Manda II to pieces before it has a chance to do anything.
 

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(1) Oh look, you feel better about yourself, finding a typo.
(2) Too bad PS slashes takes time.

It's sure as hell faster than anything Manda II can do. It took less than 3 seconds to chop down a mountain range.

Common sense buddy, no bias involved. PS is way cooler than that huge snake that did that one thing once and then nothing else but they don't compare in power.

Like I said, wank galore.

Manda II gets chopped to pieces.
 

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Really? seems like the opposite to me. I literally have no reason to wank a giant monster snake.

You haven't provided any reason Perfect Susano'o won't just slice it to bits.
 

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You haven't provided any reason Perfect Susano'o won't just slice it to bits.

That's because i'm not a debater buddy, I know every fact about Kabuto Yakushi and his moveset but I hate having other people dissect his power, seems so shallow to me.

I'll leave you 2 lovebirds to it lololol
 
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