[Game] Drinks of Sophistication - Mafia Game #20

[Ansatsuken]

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Let's just look at these two posts. The way ansa react and place an immediate vote back. It's like he was not thinking straight, it was like an automatic defense mechanism where it does not make sense for a town. Only if he was a scum would this make sense. He taunts her saying that she is naive for thinking he might be scum and taunt her even more saying "let's see how far you can get" then try to justify it at the end by using his meta reads which is something mafia ansa tend to do more than townie ansa i feel like.

When you're not in the shoe of the person you're talking about ofcourse everything doesn't make sense.

And why you're not addressed this matter properly before? Why now? Collecting ammo for your next journey? If you say only Scum would do that but Scum Ansa never retaliated like that before. So the logic is unfounded. So that means there could be a different reason.

I chuckled reading the last part of the post. And I never did what you have said before. Find me an evidence please. No one would believe you without any evidence.

What's more interesting is the post after he voted michelle.



"if im being honest to you all the scum read i did on you is not legit, i was just joking around with you."

he kind of backtracks and say that whatever he was doing was a joke. My initial thought is he knew he did a mistake and tried to backtrack whatever he was doing against michelle to just hopefully get himself out of this mess. But why would you joke about it in the first place? that's scummy and trying to throw dirt on her way but the wagon he tried to make against her just did not pick any steam. Then as we all know he took his vote off her when she took his vote off him. Another red alert in my book following these two scummy plays he did. Those are 3 red points in my book. Conclusion? ansa is scum.

First thing after Michelle voted me I'm asking her "so you really believe I'm scum reading you?"

And how can you said I'm backpedaling when I never made any official confirmation that I'm suspecting Michelle using those "clues". So I'm not into guilty side here.

For real there's no mistake done by me. I have my own freedom when to put a vote. So Why Michelle feel like she had power over me to decide when should I vote? If I'm not suspecting her for real so why should I vote her? That's not reasonable at all. Meant I'm not really taking all those "clues" as a serious matter. Simple.

Your reasoning is as bad as my reasoning on Kyte.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Ansa's mental breakdown I read as town mental breakdown and not scum mental breakdown.

Vote Houtarou, friends , you're doing literally nothing that is productive.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Forget about the last game where uou were scum (and godfather). How many games did you play with Luke and what gives you the town read on him?

Like 4 games.

Last game nobody listened to me when I said Ansa was scum so although this is extremely scummy of me to do so, I want to plant seeds of him being scum now so that in the future people might be like “Oh yeah, he might be scum”

Here Luku wanted people to believe him when he said Ansatsuken is scum.

So if Luku is my scum buddy why he posted something like that? That if you believe I'm a mafia.

 

[SoulKiller]

Ansa's mental breakdown I read as town mental breakdown and not scum mental breakdown.

Vote Houtarou, friends , you're doing literally nothing that is productive.

You sure it’s town mental breakdown? Cause I see it as a scum mental breakdown. You will literally regret it if you guys let this dude slip out from this DP and survive. You will be asking yourself “why was I blinded by my reads”

The dude literally gave up as well at one point. He was like “I don’t care if I get lynched. I am happy with the satisfaction that I know scum team, and listed couple of names.”

I would not go this hard after someone if he did not slip up so hard.

I am at my friends house and will reply to the other posts whenever I get home.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Focus elsewhere you two. Ask questions.

@Houtarou you ought to post whatever your conclusion was from the questions that you asked. I want your reads.

@Konno you seem like you have a good idea towards what the next steps are, you’re halfway there, the rest is just literally doing the work. If you won’t do this then the end result will be either you get lynched / vig’d.

did our town kp kill paper as well or do we just have none of it? Or it’s only an even night vig? Oofs

@Alice in Noodleland, Michelle mentioned you have good intuition and all but you haven’t posted anything we’d need your help. Not to guide us but rather to prove your alignment to us.

@Corazon Provide some reads as well please.

Every single person that was tagged should just ask questions to the people they scum read and presents their reads with as much reasoning as possible.

Town loses this game if you peeps don’t post, not gonna lie.

Ok I think I'm done addressing posts related to me. Give me time to cool down first.

 

[Michelle]

Role Madness. What giving you the idea that this is Role Madness game? Even if you're right that this's RM game, host has prohibited players from role claiming and anything thats associated with it. We're not even finish this round yet.

the only thing forbidden to be claimed it's flavour. Let's read the rules. Or ask the host. More explicit we can't say what kind of tea we are.

@Rej please confirm this

We usually are playing games with forbidden claim rule. This is the first time when in a full role game is possible to claim actions and to say what you know

Ansa, you are shading me in a very not transparent way and i hope you are as content about yourself as am I dissapointed.
is harder as the day goes to consider you villager.

I pinged everyone to play. What would scum me benefit from that? Zero.
I waited for you to make your cases. You are not understanding this and even in the case for SK you are hitting more in me than him.

You say words are my friends? You are hilarious. Words are my enemies. But you can't be objective about me. I take it you don't want.

I town read SK. He TRs me. This is blasphemy in your book. Why? Because you need to shade someone? Because you are affraid of him?
Yes I may be wrong about him. I am not the perfect player with perfect reads like you pretend to be. But I think him being alive and Luke pointing out he is scum for that shows a thing you didn't think at, the possibility of Luke being scum and SK being the mafia kill that town protected . But you are too smart to not think at possible mechanical actions. The explanation is you can't because it's not in your benefit.

No, you don't think at the game as a whole, you have a direction of action and this my dear Ansa is called scum agenda.

Welcome in my scum team. Luke, Ansa and one more, the list is open.

You talking about Corazon's possible lynch in that way may be a thing who shows you know his flip. Just the wolves know that.

Alright I hate my time zone sometimes. Will take me more than 30 minutes to get back home and my phone is at 5%

So SK is online with the phone at 5%. Why to believe a man? Let's make a case why he wasn't at Eod.

First of all, god damn i actually survived! is this a blessing? or could it be a curse? we are about to find out.

No onw knows the answers here at these questuions.

On a very quick skim, SK is scum cause of how fucking awkward he was when he was like “wow! So shocked to be alive. Maybe it’s a good thing, maybe it’s a bad thing, idk man”

Awkward after the last game? Why would mafia point out he is alive?

My scum top read is indeed Luke and I have a strong reason of meta and behaviour to consider him scum.

 

[SoulKiller]

Gotta say I am disappointed that not everyone has contributed in dp2 so far.

 

[Michelle]

@Thestatusquo is 8 pm for me Sunday evening and I will take a break anyway.

I can't let Ansa to play alone though, it's not his fault he randed scum :sad face emoji:

 

[Rej]

Spoiler

the only thing forbidden to be claimed it's flavour. Let's read the rules. Or ask the host. More explicit we can't say what kind of tea we are.

@Rej please confirm this

We usually are playing games with forbidden claim rule. This is the first time when in a full role game is possible to claim actions and to say what you know

Ansa, you are shading me in a very not transparent way and i hope you are as content about yourself as am I dissapointed.
is harder as the day goes to consider you villager.

I pinged everyone to play. What would scum me benefit from that? Zero.
I waited for you to make your cases. You are not understanding this and even in the case for SK you are hitting more in me than him.

You say words are my friends? You are hilarious. Words are my enemies. But you can't be objective about me. I take it you don't want.

I town read SK. He TRs me. This is blasphemy in your book. Why? Because you need to shade someone? Because you are affraid of him?
Yes I may be wrong about him. I am not the perfect player with perfect reads like you pretend to be. But I think him being alive and Luke pointing out he is scum for that shows a thing you didn't think at, the possibility of Luke being scum and SK being the mafia kill that town protected . But you are too smart to not think at possible mechanical actions. The explanation is you can't because it's not in your benefit.

No, you don't think at the game as a whole, you have a direction of action and this my dear Ansa is called scum agenda.

Welcome in my scum team. Luke, Ansa and one more, the list is open.

You talking about Corazon's possible lynch in that way may be a thing who shows you know his flip. Just the wolves know that.


So SK is online with the phone at 5%. Why to believe a man? Let's make a case why he wasn't at Eod.

No onw knows the answers here at these questuions.

Awkward after the last game? Why would mafia point out he is alive?

My scum top read is indeed Luke and I have a strong reason of meta and behaviour to consider him scum.

Confirming this.
Claiming flavour is forbidden, but abilities, nightactions, results ,etc. can openly be discussed.

 

[Thestatusquo]

I was roleblocked last night, just as a heads up. If it was town roleblocker I’d appreciate he targets someone else tonight.

 

[Michelle]

Like 4 games.

i have over 20. I'm too lazy to count.
Maybe he knows better but I doubt ^^

 

[Ansatsuken]

the only thing forbidden to be claimed it's flavour. Let's read the rules. Or ask the host. More explicit we can't say what kind of tea we are.

@Rej please confirm this

We usually are playing games with forbidden claim rule. This is the first time when in a full role game is possible to claim actions and to say what you know

Ansa, you are shading me in a very not transparent way and i hope you are as content about yourself as am I dissapointed.
is harder as the day goes to consider you villager.

I pinged everyone to play. What would scum me benefit from that? Zero.
I waited for you to make your cases. You are not understanding this and even in the case for SK you are hitting more in me than him.

You say words are my friends? You are hilarious. Words are my enemies. But you can't be objective about me. I take it you don't want.

I town read SK. He TRs me. This is blasphemy in your book. Why? Because you need to shade someone? Because you are affraid of him?
Yes I may be wrong about him. I am not the perfect player with perfect reads like you pretend to be. But I think him being alive and Luke pointing out he is scum for that shows a thing you didn't think at, the possibility of Luke being scum and SK being the mafia kill that town protected . But you are too smart to not think at possible mechanical actions. The explanation is you can't because it's not in your benefit.

No, you don't think at the game as a whole, you have a direction of action and this my dear Ansa is called scum agenda.

Welcome in my scum team. Luke, Ansa and one more, the list is open.

You talking about Corazon's possible lynch in that way may be a thing who shows you know his flip. Just the wolves know that.


So SK is online with the phone at 5%. Why to believe a man? Let's make a case why he wasn't at Eod.

No onw knows the answers here at these questuions.

Awkward after the last game? Why would mafia point out he is alive?

My scum top read is indeed Luke and I have a strong reason of meta and behaviour to consider him scum.

I will respond to this post tomorrow. I'm too tired right now.

 

[Ansatsuken]

i have over 20. I'm too lazy to count.
Maybe he knows better but I doubt ^^

Why you're not following SK voting me?

 

[Thestatusquo]

If Ansa flips green then you champion the lynches on Hourarou and All_Red in that exact order, ok SK?

 

[Thestatusquo]

Houtarou is so bleeding scum and I don’t understand how you guys are so oblivious to this. I’mma do a meta check and see for myself, this dude seems way off in this game.

 

[Naomi_Rose]

@Naomi_Rose
“Interesting” is not a reason for a TR. Why do you TR Alice?

Interesting is my own read, Also i did phrase it that way, because had hunch scum might take the bait. Surprised you come and go Interesting means not town.

Why don't you do your own reads, or are you fishing for roles?


Alice, is hardly active. But she made some contribute post and opinions. would like to hear more from her.


So far with push on kyte (who was inactive for most of his post) I'm considering Alice town,for now. with her inactive play. Nothing sus she said so far from what i read.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah just went over Game 13 of Houtarou

Huge difference. If you will take a look at it, a lot of his questions are “why?” -> looking for reasoning to figure if someone is good or bad, in here it’s just shutting down reads, completely different mentality. He doesn’t care about reasoning, just delaying town’s reads.

He also posted a lot when he did post. Like 10 posts per “session”, might be more or less, it isn’t really factual either, it’s subjective evaluation. The idea is that there wouldn’t be 12 hours passing by without him posting something.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Not to mention, he’s way more relaxed in there and is just having an overall good time, joking. His tone is much more different in here, his posts feel awfully forced, they’re just kind of standing out like a sore thumb.

 

[Ansatsuken]

So basically inside this game majority of scum are inactive players and not among the active here?

That's a blessing if it true.

 

[Ansatsuken]

@Rej vote tally please