[Game] Drinks of Sophistication - Mafia Game #20

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If you make a bigger noise that doesn't mean you are right
But you cannot lie in my face and say I am making a big deal. If you are town restart reading and come back with an objective conclusion.
You voted me meant you make it a big deal and you used META as your reasoning to vote me. That's the objective conclusion.

Lukundo always scumread me be it the shallow read or big read but I never even make it a big deal where I need to instantly vote him.
 

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And there's no one to challenge my point of view. I'm asking you who's your suspect(in DP1) but you didn't responding at all, you left me hanging. SoulKiller just said "Kyte is not a good lynch" but he never tried to challenge my PoV on Kyte. He let the opportunity slipped away. I never said I always right. I gave Kyte a chance to prove me wrong but he didn't take it seriously.

And where have you been in the last 3 Hours?
I was with my rl friends in the winter's cold, having fun. I almost died laughing. You can't expect me to give up at personal life to play mafia every day.

After all the village not playing in the last game and having the wolves howling free you are now upset at the higher poster and can't think more than your own meta vanity and a semantic meaning of a sentence that I explained you already you took it wrong.
So be it. If you are villager you are wrong...
Not everyone is attacking you is wolf, SK made a case on you with a reason. Usually townies are more incisive, your town self is not a purring cat also.

Have you read my posts? Why do I think SK is villager? THAT wasn't your concern.
Only the idea I attacked your holly meta is your concern?

I am out for now i am too upset to think stright :/
 

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You voted me meant you make it a big deal and you used META as your reasoning to vote me. That's the objective conclusion.

Lukundo always scumread me be it the shallow read or big read but I never even make it a big deal where I need to instantly vote him.
The vote is the first villagery tool to discern AI whenever you need a confirmation.

You should visit a site where the voting list, completely automated, has dozen of posts daily... And the day one of a game with 13 players has at least 1500 posts.

You see the top of an iceberg when you are complaining about a vote in early game state. A vote is not much.
Your vote on Kyte and your refusal to rethink it, that is a problem.

Luke plays wolfy this game if you ask me, and I pinged him to play but he don't answers like villa Luke. Instead talkng about everyone you loose your energy in making a case against me based on meta perception and one line sentence.

Why is SK scum? why did you vote him? Give me a short answer please.
 

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even after I explained it to you you keep insisting in this and you say you don't vote me. If I am suspect, use the vote. If not, why are you affraid?

This is not what I expect from town Ansa at all.

This is how you do it for who is not staying ferm on his feet:


votelynch: @Ansatsuken
What is this? This is you using META as your reasoning to vote me. Its clear as day. You're not going to fool anyone here.

Even you lie saying I'm suspecting you.

Morning Alice idk about everyone but I always have a good time playing.
Please be active, town needs your posts.
This's the post. Eventhough I'm not really serious with it but I couldn't help but calling it smells TMI

The reason: You said to Alice be active and town needs her read. Like you've a confirmation Alice is town at that point. Smells like a given info.
 

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What is this? This is you using META as your reasoning to vote me. Its clear as day. You're not going to fool anyone here.

Even you lie saying I'm suspecting you.



This's the post. Eventhough I'm not really serious with it but I couldn't help but calling it smells TMI

The reason: You said to Alice be active and town needs her read. Like you've a confirmation Alice is town at that point. Smells like a given info.
No. It's like town, including me, needs you. And what is not written is "no matter AI"
You are the one twisting things.

What exactly is wrong in my post about your meta? Is town Ansa so glad to invent a tmi thingy?
 

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The vote is the first villagery tool to discern AI whenever you need a confirmation.

You should visit a site where the voting list, completely automated, has dozen of posts daily... And the day one of a game with 13 players has at least 1500 posts.

You see the top of an iceberg when you are complaining about a vote in early game state. A vote is not much.
Your vote on Kyte and your refusal to rethink it, that is a problem.

Luke plays wolfy this game if you ask me, and I pinged him to play but he don't answers like villa Luke. Instead talkng about everyone you loose your energy in making a case against me based on meta perception and one line sentence.

Why is SK scum? why did you vote him? Give me a short answer please.
SK for me is scum because in the previous day he's voting Corazon, someone who just having only one post. How is that is not scummier than me voting Kyte? And now he just looked like an opportunist. Someone who just found something to be exploit.

You will understand after I've addressed SK's posts.

And I'm not voting him but All_Red
 

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🤷 I don't get this, what exactly you learned and what do you want from me?
I just want to play around with you. Just that. And you've responded to that post. Then Houtarou asked me how is that TMI? I just borrowed Luku line of thought to answer that question.

I'm really tired explaining the same thing again and again. Are you is that incapable to understand direct explanation?
 

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SK for me is scum because in the previous day he's voting Corazon, someone who just having only one post. How is that is not scummier than me voting Kyte? And now he just looked like an opportunist. Someone who just found something to be exploit.

You will understand after I've addressed SK's posts.

And I'm not voting him but All_Red
I am waiting.
Try to summarize your thoughts, a wall post has less impact.

Yes. You voted Kyte after 3 posts, there is clearly a difference :rolleyes: did you count the words too? just asking...

I would remember you that your case on me is indeed opportunist and unfortunate if you are villager. Try to not start from the idea SK is scum to demostrate it, I was mislynched by 'perfect' cases made by villagers and followed by everyone.
 

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I just want to play around with you. Just that. And you've responded to that post. Then Houtarou asked me how is that TMI? I just borrowed Luku line of thought to answer that question.

I'm really tired explaining the same thing again and again. Are you is that incapable to understand direct explanation?
yeah. sometimes i am. Thanks for understanding.
 

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I am waiting.
Try to summarize your thoughts, a wall post has less impact.

Yes. You voted Kyte after 3 posts, there is clearly a difference :rolleyes: did you count the words too? just asking...

I would remember you that your case on me is indeed opportunist and unfortunate if you are villager. Try to not start from the idea SK is scum to demostrate it, I was mislynched by 'perfect' cases made by villagers and followed by everyone.
I quoted that post here,

Kyte's posts.

To summarize,



Greetings post.




Advice post.




Another advice



This one is interesting. He seemed trying pocketing Lukundo here.

I see it like this,

"There's possibility that Ansa could be scum that throwing shade on Michelle. He tried to make Michelle look guilty. But his efforts suck. But Luku I'm waiting you to vote him first. I'm not going to be the first lol. I'm will follow after.

~~~~~
This post was presented in the most fuzzy manner.


Another thing, the post emanated certain feels. Let me point it out.

  • The post feels very unsatisfactory. As a town player should try letting other town player to understand you. How? By presenting your opinion sincerely and most importantly, direct. No layers in between. You should give a detailed opinion on the player that you're trying to address. Plus, you should show no bias in your assessment. This way town players can evaluate you and the player you addressed in much better way. Posting a fuzzy opinion on the subject being discuss is against the nature of good/capable town player.
  • The post has this feels also, "Holding Back". I can feel the holding back energy on that post. Like the poster(Kyte) have this in his mind "I will give my opinion about them but I will not stating more than what I should. Enough to show people that I responding to something."
I smell a scumtell here.



Excuse post.

It's no brainer. There's only 8 pages to read and I don't think it would take too much time to read and assessing all posts. Ignore the fluff posts but just focus on the serious posts.

This post looks bad.



Lol

If my understanding of wolf is right this post has scumtell all over it.

"Nothing really catch my eyes"
Translates as - The poster(Kyte) is not going to gives his honest opinion on who he think could be scum because there's no clear opening for accusations. He knows who's town players because he's part of the informed minority so all the players apart from them are villager. If trying to falsely accuse a player it afraid it could backfires. So for scum better watch and wait. Let townie throw suspicion on each other while scum going to spice it up.

I'm curious to know who's this duo you're talking here.

Is it All_Red vs Thestatusquo or is it Michelle vs Ansatsuken??

So from 6 posts posted by Kyte(within 1 day and 13 hours)

-4 are unproductive posts.
-2 Posts reeked of Scumtell.

All_Red still not showing any good progress but I hope I can see more from her. She very close into Scum territory.

But right now I will go with,

VoteLynch: Kyte
Clearly I voted Kyte after he had 6 posts.

Why you said I voted him after 3 posts?
 

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I quoted that post here,

Clearly I voted Kyte after he had 6 posts.

Why you said I voted him after 3 posts?
I didn't count them.. Just even the case you made was excessively big for the few words he posted. This is a trend I dislike, to make a case so complex just to show how good are you with words.

You say the TMI thing you learned from Luke recently and you are extremely upset when I say town Ansa didn't do that before. The meta thing against me is just not relevant.
See, it's useful to make a break and distance yourself from a game a little.

@Michelle And how you see All_Red right now?
Young and restless :pick:

to this mafia game related, she leans town imo.
 

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  1. @Kyte_ (Lynched D1 - Apple Tea - 3-Shot Tracker)
  2. @PaperBoiKonan (Killed N1 - Darjeeling Tea - Even Night Watcher)
The tracker is dead but if the odd night watcher knows something he has to speak up now, until day 4 when he has the next possibility to use it he may be dead.

Also, odd night watcher don't say anything if you watched nothing.

This is not for PR hunting in case someone wants to say so, is to think at our actions and become conscious about them.

The game is full role I guess, no vanillas.
 

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You guys are letting the 0 posters slip yet again.

Stop arguing, we have 5 pages of your conversation for analysing. Get them 0 posters in here and pin them to the wall with questions
 

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Well... until post 339

Corazon has 1 post
Konno has 4 posts
Alice has 6 posts all game
Houtarou 6 posts
Naomi 11 posts
AllRed 13 posts
Lukundo 31 posts
Soulkiller has 32 posts
TSQ 35 posts
Ansatsuken 74 posts
Michelle 111 posts
 
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