DoU Debate Tournament | Sakura (Mysterious) vs Kakuzu (IKratos)

[TheAncientCenturion]

You forgot Gaara fam.

Ey, Crossroads could contend for that too lel.

 

[DrProof]

Ey, Crossroads could contend for that too lel.

Idk bro. Attack patterns, and military formations. Never forget.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Idk bro. Attack patterns, and military formations. Never forget.

Lmao, I forgot how hard you go.

 

[DrProof]

Lmao, I forgot how hard you go.

I got a uhhh Gaara thread coming up ya feel. Lmao, trying to make this thread active, so Kratos can respond, gotta see how he counters Mysterious.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Win this. In the name of Kakuzu, and all that is right.

My niga DrProof's back? Don't worry though you could prepare the body bag after the third post.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I got a uhhh Gaara thread coming up ya feel. Lmao, trying to make this thread active, so Kratos can respond, gotta see how he counters Mysterious.

Ey, no need to worry. Ikratos ain't no scrub like Zexion~. I'm sure it'll be a good debate.

Or Sakura fists him and calls it a day. Probably that.

 

[DrProof]

My niga DrProof's back? Don't worry though you could prepare the body bag after the third post.

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Don't get cocky now. He might swoop in for the KO.

Ey, no need to worry. Ikratos ain't no scrub like Zexion~. I'm sure it'll be a good debate.

Or Sakura fists him and calls it a day. Probably that.

What happened to my boy Zexion? He lost his Kakuzu ways?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

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Don't get cocky now. He might swoop in for the KO.



What happened to my boy Zexion? He lost his Kakuzu ways?

Dude has blisters as big as boulders from how much he's been wanking the rag doll lately. It's sorta sad, when he loses almost every match he's put in.

 

[Lord Tywin]

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Don't get cocky now. He might swoop in for the KO.



What happened to my boy Zexion? He lost his Kakuzu ways?

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Alright let me stop :lol

 

[DrProof]

Dude has blisters as big as boulders from how much he's been wanking the rag doll lately. It's sorta sad, when he loses almost every match he's put in.

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Alright let me stop :lol

Lmao y'all a trip. So how do I join this tourney?

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Just kidding, ain't nobody got time to type wall of text.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Lmao y'all a trip. So how do I join this tourney?

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Just kidding, ain't nobody got time to type wall of text.

Lmao, sure. Face save all day, ya'll just too rusty, you'd lose in round one.

 

[Zexion~]

This is still spam guys....take it to the VM's. I don't even wank Kakuzu I just know more than you :lol

 

[Beans2]

no spam!

Eh! No spam up in this *****!

Do you guys literally not get it? TAC go talk to your f*ckboys on Skype or VMs, not a debate thread.

Edit: Zexy man beat me to it.

 

[DrProof]

This is still spam guys....take it to the VM's. I don't even wank Kakuzu I just know more than you :lol

Do you guys literally not get it? TAC go talk to your f*ckboys on Skype or VMs, not a debate thread.

Edit: Zexy man beat me to it.

My bad y'all. And chill Beans, no need for that homie.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

This is still spam guys....take it to the VM's. I don't even wank Kakuzu I just know more than you :lol

Do you guys literally not get it? TAC go talk to your f*ckboys on Skype or VMs, not a debate thread.

Edit: Zexy man beat me to it.

We're improving the thread, if anything. Aight though, I'm done.

 

[Power Bottom]

like this. Background info is to show what she is capable of.

I'm just gonna address the parts that concerns Kakuzu.

I saw a couple of mistakes you made here so I'll address them
1. Her normal punch was only able to dent and push back a juubi clone. Juubi clones aren't as hard as diamond.
2. She had to jump into the air and gain momentum to kill those other juubi clones. Her normal punch wouldn't cut it, and she'll be in trouble with an opponent that can get her mid air, when only the gravity's the one thing pushing her.
3. Once again Sakura had the advantage of momentum, which increases the force of her punch, something Naruto didn't have. Naruto was right

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of her when he punched her. He also didn't punch her straight in the skull, like Sakura did. Sakura was dropped from

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place as Kakashi's susanoo brought Sakura with Kakashi.
4. Sakura didn't make her bleed, it was Kakashi's

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. Same side, same shoulder.​

Her normal punch was only able to dent and push back a juubi clone. Juubi clones aren't as hard as diamond.

Um i guess you are saying he can tank this

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enhanced by the byakugou. He is hot surviving any direct punch from sakura at all. And he has no cannon feats to support this either. The juubi clones are made out of the juubi and the difference between them and a diamond is. Diamond is hard, hard things can break or shatter easily depending on the force on it. The juubi clones are not hard they have skin. And skin is what? Elastic. elastic things don't shatter or break. She was able to put a huge indent in his stomach.

Dimonds have different properties. A diamond is not surviving a punch from sakura. And i already addressed domu so unless you provide manga evidence it can tank a punch instead of hype we are not debating this.

2. She had to jump into the air and gain momentum to kill those other juubi clones. Her normal punch wouldn't cut it, and she'll be in trouble with an opponent that can get her mid air, when only the gravity's the one thing pushing her.

Don't start with this. seriously?

She jumped so she could take out all of them in front of her. She was following the juubi clone she punched beforehand

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so she could get in the center of all of them and strike them down all at once.

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her power dose not come from momentum it comes from releasing chakra instantly on impact.

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Sakura didn't make her bleed, it was Kakashi's

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Okay but she still destroyed her horn something naruto couldn't

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Like i said why are debating irrelevant things. It is called background information

1. Why Do I feel like you think Sakura's the only one that can use shunshin, when we've seen anyone Chunin and above do it.
2. Sakura's feat with the juubi clones are nice, but all of that wouldn't work against a non-fodder opponent.
3. Bold is simply preposterous. Why? Because
- Naruto and Sasuke were literally next to her

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was able to get Naruto and Sasuke out of her reach
- Sakura was on the ground, God knows how

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from Kaguya than Naruto and Sasuke
And there seems to be a misinterpretation from you. Naruto wasn't talking about the speed of the hands, but the speed of the hand's chakra absorption. As Naruto stated, he said that "it'll swallow you up in a second".
4. She was still tagged by the acid. Any non-fodder shinobi would have gotten away just like her.
5. New chapter is barely noteworthy.
- She sucker punched Shin. He had no knowledge of her being there.
- You're saying the MS on his head are able to read movements, which is false. It's like saying Danzo's right arm sharingans were able to read movements, which we know isn't true.

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1. Why Do I feel like you think Sakura's the only one that can use shunshin, when we've seen anyone Chunin and above do it.

Sakura can enhance her speed if she wants to and sakura has mass amounts of chakra she can use how she wants. she can easily send tons to he feet to increase her speed.

Bold is simply preposterous. Why? Because
- Naruto and Sasuke were literally next to her

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was able to get Naruto and Sasuke out of her reach
- Sakura was on the ground, God knows how

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from Kaguya than Naruto and Sasuke
And there seems to be a misinterpretation from you. Naruto wasn't talking about the speed of the hands, but the speed of the hand's chakra absorption. As Naruto stated, he said that "it'll swallow you up in a second".

What are you talking about?

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It will swallow you up in a second.= he was talking about the absorption of the hand

And it is too damn fast = he was talking about the hand itself

We are not debating this. You are trying to eliminate clear as day feats.

New chapter is barely noteworthy.
- She sucker punched Shin. He had no knowledge of her being there.
- You're saying the MS on his head are able to read movements, which is false. It's like saying Danzo's right arm sharingans were able to read movements, which we know isn't true.

It doesn't matter. A lot of people in the manga were able to dodge attacks that they didn't see coming. And not to mention he has the sharigan which he should have seen coming

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And it isnt the point that she was there but she came out of nowhere in such a speed that no one saw coming. That was how fast she was going. 1 panel he was just standing there

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then then in one second sakura was there

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even shikamaru was able to react to something he didn't see coming and he doesn't even have the sharigan

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there is no excuse at all

No one's denying Sakura's chakra reserve here, but you seem to be misinterpreting again.
Sakura and Obito weren't doing the same thing as Kaguya. While Kaguya was changing whole dimensions instantly, Obito and Sakura were merely opening a portal to the dimensions. So no, what Kaguya did and what Obito did with Sakura's chakra are two different things.
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Stop making stuff up. They were doing the exact same things. Sakura was able to do a chakra taxing feat that kaguya struggled with. Who had all the chakra in the world. Stop trying to take away feats.

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-Please show me this "in second". People were fighting all over the village, as shown by Kakashi's fight with Deva path, and Katsuya was nowhere to be found.
- It is the range of Katsuya's acid that's pitiful. She threw several loads of acid the size of a small rock. And I've shown you how close Katsuya was to the large Manda.
-most of what you said about Katsuya are irrelevant in dealing with Kakuzu.
-Katsuya has slimy properties. She has large amount of liquid inside of her. Kakuzu's fire/wind combo could easily scorch Katsuya, as not even

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was able to do anything for Kakashi.
-Also since she has liquid properties lightning would be a good conductor. Gian would numb her and Sakura if she's on her.
-I addressed your cqc about punching the ground before. She needs to have momentum to throw a punch strong enough to do that much damage.
- Playing dead works against Sasori because he has to be close to his opponent to kill them. Physically hit them. Kakuzu has numerous long range techniques that makes that useless for Sakura. Kakuzu doesn't have to go and finish Sakura himself when he can have one of his dolls to use a strong long range technique to obliterate her entire body.
- Weapons are ineffective against Domu. For poison balls she needs the target to be distracted. Sai saw through her attempt at first, then was distracted by Kiba, allowing Sakura to throw the balls.
- Tsunade was able to deflect a small fire release from Madara. Won't happen with the size of Kakuzu's techniques.

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most of your claims have no purpose to them. And it is pointless proving things that are clear as day. Like i did above. And you repeated yourself on the same stuff i proved.

-Please show me this "in second". People were fighting all over the village, as shown by Kakashi's fight with Deva path, and Katsuya was nowhere to be found.

Um maybe because she was nowhere in the area than she came out of nowhere

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she was nowhere in the area then she came out of nowhere to save them. Like i said she is fast

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- It is the range of Katsuya's acid that's pitiful. She threw several loads of acid the size of a small rock. And I've shown you how close Katsuya was to the large Manda.
-most of what you said about Katsuya are irrelevant in dealing with Kakuzu.

I already told you her acid can be amplified. And katsuyu is a support she isnt the main threat here. Her acid will provide back up

-Katsuya has slimy properties. She has large amount of liquid inside of her. Kakuzu's fire/wind combo could easily scorch Katsuya, as not even

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was able to do anything for Kakashi.
-Also since she has liquid properties lightning would be a good conductor. Gian would numb her and Sakura if she's on her.

And i have not used any of this in my debate. It is background info on katsuyu.

What you listed are chakra based attacks. Not physical. Physical is like punching and kicking. I never said Domu can tank a punch. I said it can reduce the damage. I've addressed this before why Sakura can't use one of her big punches if she's not jumping into the air and is on the ground. Explained how this can be a disaster against an opponent that can intercept her with elemental attacks mid air. Even if by chance she performs one of her jumping punches Domu lets Kakuzu survive the ground being split without any damage.

I have no words. what are talking about?

physical = tending to touch, hug, pat, etc.; physically demonstrative. Rasengan is made out chakra and what is it? It is a physical attack. A biju dama is not a physical attack too? No it is a physical attack? Water dragon is made out of chakra and i guess that isn't physical? I also believe karin chakra chains isn't a physical attack. It must be something else. Sakura punches are physical attacks and arguing otherwise is just ridiculous. They do physical damage. Domu doesn't guard against genjustu which effects your mental state.

@bold: already explained she doesn't need to jump in order for her to do the damage she did.


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I've already addressed the Katsuya part, and your false belief on Sakura dodging Kaguya's arms. You're misinterpreting too much. Also Acid isn't instant. Lightning's speed>>>>>Liquid falling to the ground.

And i already debunked your claim on katsuyu. My false belief is a fact which you are trying to eliminate using any means possible. I already clarified your misstatement of naruto's words.

So i guess if a pool of acid dropped down onto of your head from nowhere is not instant? So you are telling me if you were to be standing still and a pool of acid from no where start falling inches from your face you will not think it is instant. Give me a break. She reacted to something that was instant and was able to dodge it and save obito. Saving obito took ore speed than saving her self. If she were to just save herself the acid would have never touched her but she had to save obito which required a lot more speed. Did obito get any acid on him? nope because sakura was fast enough to save him.

the definition of instant
happening or coming immediately. The acid that sakura dodge was this.

Sakura needs to focus to see what Katsuya can see. A deadly mistake against an opponent like Kakuzu. If Katsuya tries to divide and surround the battlefield Kakuzu uses his fire release to scorch mini katsuyas. Kakuzu's fire is intense enough to evaporate rocks and trees

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And you don't think sakura and the katsuyu clones cant just talk telepathically with each other. Katsuyu are her other pair of eyes regardless of her not focusing to see what katsuyu see directly.

Katsuyu is not getting burned by his flames.

-A palm-sized clone of Katsuyu survived the corrosive chakra of Naruto's eight-tailed form

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Naruto's four-tailed form did this to orochimaru

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Regeneration won't help her with something that burns her instantly.

I already stated she has the power to block it with the boulders that come up from the ground when she punched it.

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Red Line= a defensive shield. This can protect sakura from long range attacks she cant dodge.

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and regeneration occurs instantaneously with byakugou no justu

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when he's in a pinch is great enough that he was shocked someone could read it in time. He could only think of a sharingan user such as Kakashi that could read his handseal.
Already addressed the Katsuya part. She wouldn't hit Kakuzu or his dolls when she couldn't even hit Manda. Also the distance is 50M as we've agreed. It won't happen. Yin seal doesn't make Sakura impenetrable or immune to damage and pain. An attack strong enough to wipe out her entire body would easily kill her. Or even an attack that would hinder her for while would be fatal as it would greatly change the tide of the battle to kakuzu's favor.

I am no repeating myself. Katsuyu acid slime attacks can be enhanced by the byakugou to easily proved great support. What of support don't you understand?

Yea because a attack based on air pressure will exactly kill her with the byakugou activated. That technique has no chance of killing her. And i already stated katsuyu can absorb her which she tanked Pain's CST. A attack? he has few justus be specific.

Already addressed why this punch wouldn't work.

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and it has been debunked

Sasori and Kakuz are different. Sasori doesn't restrain his opponent's movements with his wire. Kakuzu does. And take a look at this

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-Kakuzu restrains his opponents by restraining the vital parts of the body for movement. He grabs them by the joins and the places you absolutely need to move even for a little bit. Kakauzu's fast enough to catch Kakashi with sharingan, even saying the threads are too fast. He's fast enough to catch Sakura if she comes close

Nothing i said was about sasori restraining. I was given a example that sakura can pull kakuzu closer by using his threads. Like i said sakura's reactions and foot speed are fast enough to dodge and avoid his threads.

He's also fast enough to whip out an elemental attack before Kakashi could anything. We've seen Kakashi cut Kakuzu's threads before, but the point here is the speed of Kakuzu's performance. Kakashi couldn't even channel lightning to cut the threads.
-Where did you get this "using chakra would cut threads" from. This is funny. Since when do channeling chakra would cut something?
-Katsuya by this time is scorched by Kakuzu's wind/fire combo.
-Another funny thing is that you're comparing Naruto's bunshing faints with Sakura's, when she's never used them in battle, and is featless in this area. Comparing him to Naruto's skill in kagebunshin is just absurd.

@bold: stop using kakashi as sakura in this debate. They have different feats.

@Underline: Are you serious. I cant take this statement serious.
Where did you get this "using chakra would cut threads" from. This is funny. Since when do channeling chakra would cut something?
Since it is a blade made out of chakra. I wonder what a blade can do -_-. It can cut

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and before you say something like. Oh well it isn't strong enough. Well it can be enhanced by the byakugou to be stronger

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and before you say something like. That was to supply her chakra to summon 10% katsuyu. Well she can supply anything else she wants with chakra too.

Another funny thing is that you're comparing Naruto's bunshing faints with Sakura's, when she's never used them in battle, and is featless in this area. Comparing him to [/U]Naruto's skill in kagebunshin is just absurd.

really? i was showing that red area can be cut or melted by acid. I didn't say anything about kage bunshin. Stop putting words in my mouth

Those dolls don't need the speed to keep up with Sakura physically, which they still can do. Not even Kakashi could get the puppets, even with the help of his sharingan. They can spam large techniques that keeps her at bay and one hit would greatly change the tide to Kakuzu's favor.
-Already addressed the bald guy and misinterpreted scans.
-Let'st just stop comparing Kakuzu with fodder puppets of Toneri and sasori, and not give Sakura bunshin feats of Naruto.

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The sharigan doesn't grant you foot speed. It grants you the ability to read your opponents attacks. You have yet to provide any scans that back up your point on his dolls dodging any of sakura direct attacks. tenten had no problem whipping one out.

and i already debunked it

I didn't compare anything. I said she has no problems dealing with multiple opponents fighting her at the same time. Why are you constantly putting words in my mouth?

I have not given sakura any of naruto feats and i don't understand why you are keep making things up. I said this about 10 times in this post already.
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You don't even know how Katsuya works. You keep saying she'll be enhanced if Sakura her with Sakura's seal. Manga proves that wrong.

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Katsuya's already using Tsunade's Byakugou. There is no enhancing her when she's already on its chakra.

I don't know? Lets just say you don't know and you are clearly lacking information on katsuyu.

Orochimaru was saying why was recovery taking too long. And katsuyu said I can use my power according to tsunade's byakugou. Recovery as in medical ninjustu. Tsunade was in a very weaken state. She was cut in half and her chakra levels were very low. Which meant she coldnt provide katsuyu with enough chakra to achieve a fast recovery rate.

Katsuyu has to do medical techniques through her summoner byakugou. She has acid slime already. The byakugou seal has nothing to do with acid slime. Sakura can enhance acid slime with the byakugou.


-She needed Katsuya for Naruto's protection. So no, she's not a main fighting force.


stop making things up.I alread debunked your whole argument on orochimaru summoning first. Now you are saying she used it for naruto's sake LOL. Who did she ask to take care of naruto? shizune. Tsunade started the summoning to end the fight through katsuyu.

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Already addressed everything here

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Sakura needs something hard for her punches to explode. Kakuzu's threads are soft and flexible. Try punching a pillow and then punch a wall. You might be able to dent the wall, but the pillow will keep its shape. Also with flexibility of Kakuzu's threads and his absolute control over them he can make Sakura's punch go through the threads.

With enough force to the pillow it will disperse and the feathers inside or whatever will fly out going everywhere. Why are comparing a real life person punch to sakura's Can a real life person shatter a boulder easily? i don't think so.

If she goes through him which isn't happening. she can easily engage him in taijustu and aim for his hearts or she can strike the floor sending him flying then sakura can jump towards him to finish him pff

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Already addressed why this punch won't work. Addressed your fallacy on katsuya's enhancement as well.

all debunked

Already addressed.

all debunked

He would have no problem using the techniques one after another. He can also merge dolls for a stronger technique, or use a specific element while the dolls are still attached to another. Addressed the other parts on the element topic.

Sakura isn't a computer. She can't operate without a brain. We know that we can't live without a brain, right? When Kakuzu busts a hole in Sakura's head with Gian she'd have no more brain, meaning all of her bodily activities will cease, and she will lose consciousness, losing all of her abilities to control the chakra.

@bold: and none of his elements attacks are giving sakura trouble here anyways. The only one that may do something is his fire + wind combo but that isn't killing her nor will she not be able to protect herself from it which i already addressed previously.

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assuming she wont dodge it
assuming katsuyu cant shield her or she cant bump her out of the way

Byakugou repairers damage instantaneously . So even if her brain were to get pierced it will be repaired. The seal doesn't shut off till she runs out of chakra or she cuts it off

Why the hell do you think it is a rule to learn byakugou before going in the front lines. The justu was designed so the user didn't have to worry about damage they take. The will be able to fight and support their team without worrying about dying.

Shino tanked a close-range Zankūha to the skull--literally acquiring a hole in his skull, mind you--and wasn't fazed by it all all.

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Last post. May the better debater win.

like this. Background info is to show what she is capable of.

Um i guess you are saying he can tank this

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enhanced by the byakugou. He is hot surviving any direct punch from sakura at all. And he has no cannon feats to support this either. The juubi clones are made out of the juubi and the difference between them and a diamond is. Diamond is hard, hard things can break or shatter easily depending on the force on it. The juubi clones are not hard they have skin. And skin is what? Elastic. elastic things don't shatter or break. She was able to put a huge indent in his stomach.

Dimonds have different properties. A diamond is not surviving a punch from sakura. And i already addressed domu so unless you provide manga evidence it can tank a punch instead of hype we are not debating this. ​

Nope, didn' say he would tank her punch. I'm saying Sakura's normal standing punch wouldn't affect Kakuzu. Her jumping punch would though.​

Don't start with this. seriously?

She jumped so she could take out all of them in front of her. She was following the juubi clone she punched beforehand

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so she could get in the center of all of them and strike them down all at once.

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her power dose not come from momentum it comes from releasing chakra instantly on impact.

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Yes Sakura builds Chakra and uses it to increase her physical strength and punching power. And granted she wanted to take out the juubi clones in front of them. But look at this. This is Sakura's normal punch without jumping, and its effect.

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The first punch didn't nearly have the same strength as her second punch. If her punch while she's standing had the same strength as her second punch the juubi clone she punched first would have turned into white goo as I don't see how the juubi clone wouldn't turn into goo after receiving this kind of a punch head on.

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She didn't have to worry about Naruto and Sasuke in front of him either because if she had put the same amount of strength in her first punch as her second punch the juubi clone would have simply turned into paste, as I don't see the clone not being significantly deformed by a punch on the same caliber as Sakura's second punch.

Now why I said Sakura needs momentum to increase the force of her punch? Sakura can't simply build up and release chakra and make as much of an impact like

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. She needs to jump.
Look at this.

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Look at Sakura's hand on the clone. If she could simply just build up chakra and release it to cause the damage same as the time she went against juubi clones she would have done it. The above picture shows it to us that she can't simply just put her hands on something and release the built up chakra on her fist. That's why she punched the juubi clone with her other hand.

Now why I typed all of this? To show you that the impact of Sakura's punch depends on her momentum. Yes, she might be able to cause minor destruction by simply releasing her chakra, but she needs her physical strength to also increase to make her punches have impact like the pictures above.






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Okay but she still destroyed her horn something naruto couldn't

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Like i said why are debating irrelevant things. It is called background information

As I made it clear to you as above that Sakura had the momentum advantage. She also punched her straight in the skull, unlike Naruto punching Kaguya in the chin.
It's also not as irrelevant as we're measuring Sakura's ability and why she needs certain conditions to do certain things.​

Sakura can enhance her speed if she wants to and sakura has mass amounts of chakra she can use how she wants. she can easily send tons to he feet to increase her speed.

I didn't say she needs to be careful towards her shunshin, and it takes up a fairly small amount of chakra from the user.

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What are you talking about?

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It will swallow you up in a second.= he was talking about the absorption of the hand

And it is too damn fast = he was talking about the hand itself

We are not debating this. You are trying to eliminate clear as day feats.

:lol I'm trying to eliminate what exactly? Is it wrong that Naruto and Sasuke were literally next to Sakura's rabbit juubi?

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Is it wrong to say that Sakura was much farther away than Naruto and Sasuke?
Is it wrong to say that even Naruto's clone was able to react to the chakra arms and get Naruto and Sasuke out of harms way in a distance far closer to the chakra arms than Sakura was?
No bud, give any known shinobi with some important relevance to the story the same distance as Sakura and they'll be able to do the same thing.​

It doesn't matter. A lot of people in the manga were able to dodge attacks that they didn't see coming. And not to mention he has the sharigan which he should have seen coming

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And it isnt the point that she was there but she came out of nowhere in such a speed that no one saw coming. That was how fast she was going. 1 panel he was just standing there

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then then in one second sakura was there

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even shikamaru was able to react to something he didn't see coming and he doesn't even have the sharigan

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there is no excuse at all

You know that sharingan needs to see a person's body to let them predict the opponent's movements, right?
You're simply sugarcoating what Sakura did here. Her action would have been impressive if she was able to do it when Shin's sharingan was set on her, meaning it would have been impressive if she was in front of Shin, and not coming out of nowhere and sucker punching him.
And Kakuzu's scene there is countered by his performance against a far superior opponent than Shikamaru, such as Kakashi.​

Stop making stuff up. They were doing the exact same things. Sakura was able to do a chakra taxing feat that kaguya struggled with. Who had all the chakra in the world. Stop trying to take away feats.

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I'm making stuff up? Let's drop this as this is my last post.
Is summoning an entire dimension the size of a planet is the same thing as opening a portal?

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So no buddy, I'm not the one making things up. Opening a portal isn't the same thing as summoning an entire dimension.
Switching dimensions instantly isn't the same thing as opening a portal to dimensions.

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most of your claims have no purpose to them. And it is pointless proving things that are clear as day. Like i did above. And you repeated yourself on the same stuff i proved.

So you basically don't have anything to say about Katsuya not being able to cross the village in seconds, something you claimed in your first post? Or you basically have nothing to say about those points that I made about Kakuzu's fire releasing scorching Katsuya? Or how you know playing dead won't affect Kakuzu, something I proved to you in this section of my post? Or anything with weapons not being effective against Kakuzu?

And you say they are pointless and I'm repeating myself? Sounds to me that you can't even counter what I said.​

Um maybe because she was nowhere in the area than she came out of nowhere

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she was nowhere in the area then she came out of nowhere to save them. Like i said she is fast

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I already told you her acid can be amplified. And katsuyu is a support she isnt the main threat here. Her acid will provide back up

And i have not used any of this in my debate. It is background info on katsuyu.

Well damn, Katsuya was able to reach a room in some random building. Tell me how she was "all over the village in seconds" again?
Will address Katsuya later in on in this post.

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I have no words. what are talking about?

physical = tending to touch, hug, pat, etc.; physically demonstrative. Rasengan is made out chakra and what is it? It is a physical attack. A biju dama is not a physical attack too? No it is a physical attack? Water dragon is made out of chakra and i guess that isn't physical? I also believe karin chakra chains isn't a physical attack. It must be something else. Sakura punches are physical attacks and arguing otherwise is just ridiculous. They do physical damage. Domu doesn't guard against genjustu which effects your mental state.

@bold: already explained she doesn't need to jump in order for her to do the damage she did.
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You clearly didn't Understand what I said. You listed attacks which were not physical, and I differentiated betwen physical and other types of attacks. You don't even know the difference between physical attacks and chakra based attacks. We say physical attacks for taijutsu and kenjutsu.
And I already explained why she exactly needs to jump and have momentum earlier in this post.

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And i already debunked your claim on katsuyu. My false belief is a fact which you are trying to eliminate using any means possible. I already clarified your misstatement of naruto's words.

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So i guess if a pool of acid dropped down onto of your head from nowhere is not instant? So you are telling me if you were to be standing still and a pool of acid from no where start falling inches from your face you will not think it is instant. Give me a break. She reacted to something that was instant and was able to dodge it and save obito. Saving obito took ore speed than saving her self. If she were to just save herself the acid would have never touched her but she had to save obito which required a lot more speed. Did obito get any acid on him? nope because sakura was fast enough to save him.

the definition of instant
happening or coming immediately. The acid that sakura dodge was this.

You can have a pool of acid dropped on you out of nowhere, but it still doesn't come even close to the speed of lightning.
And buddy, learn to look at the scans more carefully from now on.

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You say it came out of nowhere, yet you see Obito and Sakura look at the pool of acid directly.
You say it was dropped on top of their heads, yet you see the portal being opened in their vicinity, not on top of their heads. And splash of the acid was the thing that got on Sakura's clothes. No drop of poured on her directly from the pool of acid. Merely a splash. You even see Obito looking at the ground, looking at the acid coming their way. And you can see Sakura looking at the portal a bit farther from them.
So no, it wasn't directly on top of their head.​

And you don't think sakura and the katsuyu clones cant just talk telepathically with each other. Katsuyu are her other pair of eyes regardless of her not focusing to see what katsuyu see directly.

Katsuyu is not getting burned by his flames.

-A palm-sized clone of Katsuyu survived the corrosive chakra of Naruto's eight-tailed form

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Naruto's four-tailed form did this to orochimaru

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Rofl Tsunade had to literally sit in a circle with other ninjas protecting her to sense the injured, and not even then she was able to see what Katsuya saw.

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She senses if someone's injured by Katsuya being on them and connecting with Tsunade via her Byakugou seal. Again a deadly mistake against Kakuzu and his fire release that can scorch katsuya. And you say Katsuya survived Naruto's corrosive chakra? Damn, I guess Naruto's clothes, forehead protector, and his boots were made as the same stuff Katsuya was made.


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I already stated she has the power to block it with the boulders that come up from the ground when she punched it.

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Red Line= a defensive shield. This can protect sakura from long range attacks she cant dodge.

Already addressed why she needs to jump to do that much damage.

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and regeneration occurs instantaneously with byakugou no justu

Regeneration won't help her when her entire body's wiped out by Kakuzu's fire/wind combo. He evaporates her instantly, before her regeneration is kicked into place. Even if her body's not completely wiped out Kakuzu's combo is strong enough to gravely damage Sakura and finish her by destroying her brain with Gain while she's still regenerating from the combo.​

I am no repeating myself. Katsuyu acid slime attacks can be enhanced by the byakugou to easily proved great support. What of support don't you understand?

Already destroyed the enhancing part. When Tsunade summoned Katsuya, Katsuya was using Tsunade's Byakugou seal

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So no, she was already at full power as Sakura's giving the entirety of her seal's chakra for maximum result.
I've already addressed how Katsuya's speed of acid is pitiful, especially against someone like Kakuzu who can just make an earth wall to block the acid, or wash it away with his suiton mask. Or he can simply burn it off with fire, or blow if off with wind. Or simplest of all, as he can dodge it without wasting chakra.

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Yea because a attack based on air pressure will exactly kill her with the byakugou activated. That technique has no chance of killing her. And i already stated katsuyu can absorb her which she tanked Pain's CST. A attack? he has few justus be specific.

He doesn't have to kill her with wind release. He can use its impact to cripple her. If she decided to take refuge inside Katsuya, Kakuzu uses his fire release to burn Katsuya and Sakura, or he can use Gian. Katsuya is slimy and wet, which conducts lightning very effectively.​

and it has been debunked

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Nothing i said was about sasori restraining. I was given a example that sakura can pull kakuzu closer by using his threads. Like i said sakura's reactions and foot speed are fast enough to dodge and avoid his threads.

And I didn't imply that you did. I said that the method they use strings and wires are different. And no bud, Sakura isn't dodging something a proficient sharingan user was caught by.

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@bold: stop using kakashi as sakura in this debate. They have different feats.

Actually I'm overestimating Sakura's speed and reaction here by using Kakashi of sharingan here.

@Underline: Are you serious. I cant take this statement serious.
Where did you get this "using chakra would cut threads" from. This is funny. Since when do channeling chakra would cut something?
Since it is a blade made out of chakra. I wonder what a blade can do -_-. It can cut

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She needs her hands free to cut the threads. Won't happen when kakuzu's holding her by the joints.
Also we don't even know if her chakra blades would work on Kakuzu's threads that contain chakra. Kakashi needed something as strong as Raikiri, something even capable of cutting

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, or even Sasuke's version which is able to penetrate Raikage's v1 armor. We don't know if her chakra scalpel, with best feat of cutting Naruto's ribs, can even cut kakuzu's threads.​

and before you say something like. Oh well it isn't strong enough. Well it can be enhanced by the byakugou to be stronger

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and before you say something like. That was to supply her chakra to summon 10% katsuyu. Well she can supply anything else she wants with chakra too.

Byakugou gives her more chakra to put into the blade. It doesn't let her sharpen the blade more.

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Another funny thing is that you're comparing Naruto's bunshing faints with Sakura's, when she's never used them in battle, and is featless in this area. Comparing him to [/U]Naruto's skill in kagebunshin is just absurd.

really? i was showing that red area can be cut or melted by acid. I didn't say anything about kage bunshin. Stop putting words in my mouth

You said this

Trying to take her heart isn't happening since a katsuyu clone can come out and spit acid at him. Katsuyu can hide inside her pockets. ​

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.There will also be multiple clones around the field which wont allow to do that. And this allows sakura have the perfect opportunity to land a punch on him.​

You were implying Sakura or Katsuya's clones were able to give kakuzu a hard time, which Naruto, a bunshing master barely pulled off.


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The sharigan doesn't grant you foot speed. It grants you the ability to read your opponents attacks. You have yet to provide any scans that back up your point on his dolls dodging any of sakura direct attacks. tenten had no problem whipping one out.

and i already debunked it

I didn't compare anything. I said she has no problems dealing with multiple opponents fighting her at the same time. Why are you constantly putting words in my mouth?

I have not given sakura any of naruto feats and i don't understand why you are keep making things up. I said this about 10 times in this post already.

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Those were edo Kakuzu's dolls. Kabuto's control was strengthened by absorbing orochimaru's power, but the edos still weren't at the peak of their alive powers, except Madara.
I didn't say Sharingan gives you foot speed. The sharingan didn't help kakashi to plan his reactions and timings well enough to damage the dolls, even though Kakashi had the foot speed to not be overwhelmed by the dolls.

I don't know? Lets just say you don't know and you are clearly lacking information on katsuyu.

Orochimaru was saying why was recovery taking too long. And katsuyu said I can use my power according to tsunade's byakugou. Recovery as in medical ninjustu. Tsunade was in a very weaken state. She was cut in half and her chakra levels were very low. Which meant she coldnt provide katsuyu with enough chakra to achieve a fast recovery rate.

Katsuyu has to do medical techniques through her summoner byakugou. She has acid slime already. The byakugou seal has nothing to do with acid slime. Sakura can enhance acid slime with the byakugou.


-She needed Katsuya for Naruto's protection. So no, she's not a main fighting force.

stop making things up.I alread debunked your whole argument on orochimaru summoning first. Now you are saying she used it for naruto's sake LOL. Who did she ask to take care of naruto? shizune. Tsunade started the summoning to end the fight through katsuyu.

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Even then we've seen Katsuya using acid when Tsunade had fresh opened her seal up. She was battle rusty, but that doesn't have to do with tsunade's chakra in any way.

On that last part. Part of the reason on why she summoned Katsuya was because of Naruto. It is easier for her to protect Naruto with Katsuya and even heal him more if he needed the extra healing. Instead of just healing Naruto, not joining the battle, leaving everything to a poisoned Jiraiya.

debunked

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With enough force to the pillow it will disperse and the feathers inside or whatever will fly out going everywhere. Why are comparing a real life person punch to sakura's Can a real life person shatter a boulder easily? i don't think so.

let's just drop that.
Still Kakuzu's threads are elastic and flexible and can let Sakura's punch go throw them by controlling them and getting them out of way.

If she goes through him which isn't happening. she can easily engage him in taijustu and aim for his hearts or she can strike the floor sending him flying then sakura can jump towards him to finish him pff

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smh already addressed why she can't do that kind of punches when she's standing. Domu tanks her normal punches without effort.

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@bold: and none of his elements attacks are giving sakura trouble here anyways. The only one that may do something is his fire + wind combo but that isn't killing her nor will she not be able to protect herself from it which i already addressed previously.

It's easy just to talk and say that they won't effect her, when I've showed you how damaging each of those elements are. Kakuzu's not bound to just combine two elements. He can combine more. He hasn't shown it, but what stops him to combine more? Nothing. So yes, his elements can damage her severely and will give Kakuzu the edge.

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assuming she wont dodge it
assuming katsuyu cant shield her or she cant bump her out of the way

Katsuya isn't nearly as fast as Kakashi, neither is Sakura. Neither have sharingan as well to see the timing of the attack.

Byakugou repairers damage instantaneously . So even if her brain were to get pierced it will be repaired. The seal doesn't shut off till she runs out of chakra or she cuts it off

Repairs brain? rofl this won't happen when she instantly dies because of lacking a brain. So good luck regenerating from that.

Why the hell do you think it is a rule to learn byakugou before going in the front lines. The justu was designed so the user didn't have to worry about damage they take. The will be able to fight and support their team without worrying about dying.

she'd be severely handicapped if she takes a strong attacks. Byakugou doesn't make her invulnerable. And she certainly can die with the brain destroyed, or her head completely blown off. Something kakuzu can pull off with Gian and his fire release, or wind release.

Shino tanked a close-range Zankūha to the skull--literally acquiring a hole in his skull, mind you--and wasn't fazed by it all all.

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Let's now compare sound dude's extremely weak sound technique to this.

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My three posts are posted, but Kakuzu's still counting money

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Thank god this is the end

Last post. May the better debater win.

Nope, didn' say he would tank her punch. I'm saying Sakura's normal standing punch wouldn't affect Kakuzu. Her jumping punch would though.​

@Bold: I already explained how her jumping has nothing to do with the power. Being stubborn and trying to make up stuff dose not equal facts.

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Yes Sakura builds Chakra and uses it to increase her physical strength and punching power. And granted she wanted to take out the juubi clones in front of them. But look at this. This is Sakura's normal punch without jumping, and its effect.

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The first punch didn't nearly have the same strength as her second punch. If her punch while she's standing had the same strength as her second punch the juubi clone she punched first would have turned into white goo as I don't see how the juubi clone wouldn't turn into goo after receiving this kind of a punch head on.

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She didn't have to worry about Naruto and Sasuke in front of him either because if she had put the same amount of strength in her first punch as her second punch the juubi clone would have simply turned into paste, as I don't see the clone not being significantly deformed by a punch on the same caliber as Sakura's second punch.

Now why I said Sakura needs momentum to increase the force of her punch? Sakura can't simply build up and release chakra and make as much of an impact like

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Look at this.

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Look at Sakura's hand on the clone. If she could simply just build up chakra and release it to cause the damage same as the time she went against juubi clones she would have done it. The above picture shows it to us that she can't simply just put her hands on something and release the built up chakra on her fist. That's why she punched the juubi clone with her other hand.

Now why I typed all of this? To show you that the impact of Sakura's punch depends on her momentum. Yes, she might be able to cause minor destruction by simply releasing her chakra, but she needs her physical strength to also increase to make her punches have impact like the pictures above.
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@Bold: since you can't read let me re use what i stated

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Don't start with this. seriously?

She jumped so she could take out all of them in front of her. She was following the juubi clone she punched beforehand

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so she could get in the center of all of them and strike them down all at once.

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her power dose not come from momentum it comes from releasing chakra instantly on impact.

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@Underline: You really Don't understand in punching the ground and punching the juubi clones. Let me explain this for you to comprehend

First off, Sakura doesn't need to leap up in the air to "ground pound". Let me explain this to you. There are two reasons why Sakura jumped up in the air in that particular situation. First off, the Juubi fodder were up ahead so she decided to get to the epicenter of where the horde was located.

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She could have ran all the way but there was a massive blockade of Juubi fodder so she decided to go in midair. Secondly, Naruto and Sasuke were right beside her at that time so she wanted to create distance from her team mates. The energy that Sakura gains by jumping in the air is extremely extremely tiny compared to the energy released from her fists.
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Before = sakura was holding the juubi clone up. She was getting ready to punch it when her seal performed. She didnt hit him for the love of god. When was the last time sakura hit something with her fingers spread.

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impact on the pic above = is when sakura actually punched the clone

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Disfigurement is what happened after the punched. She bent the jubbi back and sent it flying meters back creating a huge dust cloud. Not only that but she created a huge hole inside it

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then after that she jumped so she catch up to all the she previously punched to destroy all the clones infront of them.

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There is a difference between punching the ground and punching a person/the juubi clones. The ground is formed of solid compact particles. Anything with a strong enough force can easily shatter or break a solid. People and the juubi clones are not solid compact beings. So obviously there is a difference in results when you punch the ground and a person. And if you still believe she need to jump to create the same result well i am sorry you think that.


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As I made it clear to you as above that Sakura had the momentum advantage. She also punched her straight in the skull, unlike Naruto punching Kaguya in the chin.
It's also not as irrelevant as we're measuring Sakura's ability and why she needs certain conditions to do certain things.
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Debating irrelevant things doesn't take away the fact that she broke kaguya horn. And i don't understand why you keep are repeating this bs momentum factor that has nothing to do with her releasing chakra on impact. Get out of her with that shit. It is getting repetitive and annoying.

I didn't say she needs to be careful towards her shunshin, and it takes up a fairly small amount of chakra from the user.

wtf are you talking about?

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:lol I'm trying to eliminate what exactly? Is it wrong that Naruto and Sasuke were literally next to Sakura's rabbit juubi?

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Is it wrong to say that Sakura was much farther away than Naruto and Sasuke?
Is it wrong to say that even Naruto's clone was able to react to the chakra arms and get Naruto and Sasuke out of harms way in a distance far closer to the chakra arms than Sakura was?
No bud, give any known shinobi with some important relevance to the story the same distance as Sakura and they'll be able to do the same thing.
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What you said is just lol at best.

Wtf dose distance have anything to do with anything when the hand was like 3 feet from her face

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and like i said you are keep ignoring the fact that naruto said was too fast?

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It doesn't matter whether naruto dodged it or not. It is the fact that naruto took the time to emphasized about the speed of the hand (with 2 exclamatory marks = very important). It was obviously fast even for naruto and sasuke. So stop saying pure crap and ignoring facts. This isn't even a debate. I have been constantly repeating my stuff over and over i this so called debate and this is just getting annoying now

You know that sharingan needs to see a person's body to let them predict the opponent's movements, right?
You're simply sugarcoating what Sakura did here. Her action would have been impressive if she was able to do it when Shin's sharingan was set on her, meaning it would have been impressive if she was in front of Shin, and not coming out of nowhere and sucker punching him.
And Kakuzu's scene there is countered by his performance against a far superior opponent than Shikamaru, such as Kakashi.
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@Bold: get outta here with that. Madara was able to see everybody around him and stop from landing a hit on him. A guy with a huge swrod was about to him him from the behind but with the sharigan he saw through it and put him in a genjustu. If you are in the sharigan user eye range they can predict your moves. (he was moving his eyes to the side to see his back)

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Sakura hit him from the side. We as Human beings have peripheral vision which lets us see at a 120 degree. We can see our sides so your whole argument on shin not being focused on her is ridiculous since sakura punched him right on his side (stomach). Not only that you ignored the point that shikamru reacted to a attack from the behind that he didn't even see coming. Like i said all your excuses have no validity and at this point you are saying anything to counter my posts. It was a speed feat whether you like it or not.

I'm making stuff up? Let's drop this as this is my last post.
Is summoning an entire dimension the size of a planet is the same thing as opening a portal?

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So no buddy, I'm not the one making things up. Opening a portal isn't the same thing as summoning an entire dimension.
Switching dimensions instantly isn't the same thing as opening a portal to dimensions.
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First off she didn't summon a new dimension and black zetsu wasn't referring to that. The portal she opened

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was the chakra taxing thing zetsu was talking about. She has been spamming the whole fight why would he mention her completely changing the dimension with everyone inside it if she did it twice and spammed traveling to other dimensions to escape techniques multiple times? It is like me saying you ate too much and you drank 2 cups of water and had 5 plates of pasta. You say well i guess i had to much water. It makes no since tbh.

like i said he was referring to her changing dimensions like what obito and sakura did.

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So you basically don't have anything to say about Katsuya not being able to cross the village in seconds, something you claimed in your first post? Or you basically have nothing to say about those points that I made about Kakuzu's fire releasing scorching Katsuya? Or how you know playing dead won't affect Kakuzu, something I proved to you in this section of my post? Or anything with weapons not being effective against Kakuzu?

And you say they are pointless and I'm repeating myself? Sounds to me that you can't even counter what I said.​

Well damn, Katsuya was able to reach a room in some random building. Tell me how she was "all over the village in seconds" again?
Will address Katsuya later in on in this post.

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First off you are debating background info which i don't feel like explaining cause you manipulate every word or scan i show and create made up stuff to help your argument And background info isn't even my debate post so lmfao. You are debating things that are not helping you at all. Plus It doesn't matter whether or not i explain because the feat of her coming out of nowhere and saving ino, shizune, and ino's dad is a great enough feat. And thankfully this is the last post so yes i will explain for you in preschool terms so you can understand and follow.

Tsunade summoned katsuyu so she could heal the village.

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after she was summoned later she started to split and divide. It took matter of seconds so go throughout the village from the hokage mansion.

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This isn't suppose to be some jaw dropping speed feat. It is just to show the stereotype on katsuyu being slow is false and i already explained she has the speed to back sakura up in this fight.

You clearly didn't Understand what I said. You listed attacks which were not physical, and I differentiated betwen physical and other types of attacks. You don't even know the difference between physical attacks and chakra based attacks. We say physical attacks for taijutsu and kenjutsu.
And I already explained why she exactly needs to jump and have momentum earlier in this post.

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lol so if someone sprayed you with gasoline and threw a match on you that wouldn't be considered physical. So if someone shoots you with a water gun it isn't physical i don't got time for this bs

you make no sense. you are basically saying sakura will do a physcial attack in your logic = no chakra basically a punch she dose to naruto on kakuzu? lmfao and a chakra based attack inst strong unless she jumps

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You can have a pool of acid dropped on you out of nowhere, but it still doesn't come even close to the speed of lightning.
And buddy, learn to look at the scans more carefully from now on.

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You say it came out of nowhere, yet you see Obito and Sakura look at the pool of acid directly.
You say it was dropped on top of their heads, yet you see the portal being opened in their vicinity, not on top of their heads. And splash of the acid was the thing that got on Sakura's clothes. No drop of poured on her directly from the pool of acid. Merely a splash. You even see Obito looking at the ground, looking at the acid coming their way. And you can see Sakura looking at the portal a bit farther from them.
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LOL. Y am i still quoting you. So you are saying her reacting to acid instantly to save obito is not a speed feat and it was a simple task anyone can do? omg

The acid was right above their heads stop being blind

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the acid was going to land right on top of the like this

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if you cant see something so clear. Well sorry

Rofl Tsunade had to literally sit in a circle with other ninjas protecting her to sense the injured, and not even then she was able to see what Katsuya saw.

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She senses if someone's injured by Katsuya being on them and connecting with Tsunade via her Byakugou seal. Again a deadly mistake against Kakuzu and his fire release that can scorch katsuya. And you say Katsuya survived Naruto's corrosive chakra? Damn, I guess Naruto's clothes, forehead protector, and his boots were made as the same stuff Katsuya was made.​

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ROFL too because i said she can communicate with katsuyu and her clones telepathically so she is her other pair of eyes regardless. and yet you ignored that and still talking about the method I ditched

@bold: LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

yep we all want to see a naked naruto. People clothes don't get completely destroyed because kishi aint doing a nude manga unless you want to see naruto ding dong hanging while fighting.

Bye your choji should have been butt naked when he expanded. But hey

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Already addressed why she needs to jump to do that much damage.​

lol how many times have you said that and it has been debunked

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Regeneration won't help her when her entire body's wiped out by Kakuzu's fire/wind combo. He evaporates her instantly, before her regeneration is kicked into place. Even if her body's not completely wiped out Kakuzu's combo is strong enough to gravely damage Sakura and finish her by destroying her brain with Gain while she's still regenerating from the combo.​

I already said her punch can block it but you still believe in your ideology that she needs to jump in the sky to do that LOL. Her punch blocks it and even if she did get caught in it her byakugou recovers. You underestimate the technique. Even if she was caught in it she can punch the ground to blast it away from her so she wouldn't take all the damage heads on.

And gian is dodged or katsuyu can shield her or bump her out of the way for the last time which you are keep ignoring.

Already destroyed the enhancing part. When Tsunade summoned Katsuya, Katsuya was using Tsunade's Byakugou seal

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she wasn't using crap. Tsunade sent her chakra to heal the kages. Katsuyu can't take chakra as she please omg. i can't beleive i am debating this

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what dose this has anything to do with enhancing the acid.

You said katsuyu power comes from the seal. Tsunade had no seal and katsuyu was still able to use acid slime. Acid slime is already a power she has by herself

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the acid slime is getting enhanced

So no, she was already at full power as Sakura's giving the entirety of her seal's chakra for maximum result.
I've already addressed how Katsuya's speed of acid is pitiful, especially against someone like Kakuzu who can just make an earth wall to block the acid, or wash it away with his suiton mask. Or he can simply burn it off with fire, or blow if off with wind. Or simplest of all, as he can dodge it without wasting chakra.

no suiton feats

fire burning acid? wtf

and sure let him waste chakra lol. I have said multiple times the acid enhanced will be a great help for a support attack. Stop keep saying it will be a main attack sakura will use. The technique can help can help keep kakauzu off her or melt his threads like i said previously.
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He doesn't have to kill her with wind release. He can use its impact to cripple her. If she decided to take refuge inside Katsuya, Kakuzu uses his fire release to burn Katsuya and Sakura, or he can use Gian. Katsuya is slimy and wet, which conducts lightning very effectively.

Hidan tanked it without major problems sakura with byakugou wont have any problems. And you don't think the other clones wont see this and tell sakura to get out? You don't think they can fire acid at him to stop him? Like i said katsuyu wont allow sakura to be stuck in that type of position.

lol

lol indeed

And I didn't imply that you did. I said that the method they use strings and wires are different. And no bud, Sakura isn't dodging something a proficient sharingan user was caught by.

Kaguya hands > kakuzu threads which i stated multiple times. She is dodging them or slicing them with chakra scalpel.


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Actually I'm overestimating Sakura's speed and reaction here by using Kakashi of sharingan here.

Kakashi of the sharigan is not sakura Haruno the disciple of the diciple of the 5th and a living legend. They have different feats and sakura feats shows she is capable of dodging the threads. Using hype isn't helping you at all.

She needs her hands free to cut the threads. Won't happen when kakuzu's holding her by the joints.
Also we don't even know if her chakra blades would work on Kakuzu's threads that contain chakra. Kakashi needed something as strong as Raikiri, something even capable of cutting

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, or even Sasuke's version which is able to penetrate Raikage's v1 armor. We don't know if her chakra scalpel, with best feat of cutting Naruto's ribs, can even cut kakuzu's threads.​

Holding her joints means katsuyu can easily fire acid at him while sakura rips through them with strength. Like i said sakura can use her chakra to enhance her strength so she can easily loosen the threads so she can get her hand to slice through them. Do you not understand by enhancing the chakra scalpel with the byakugou it will be 10x stronger (sharper). First off the scalpel she used on naruto was very weak and she used it to cutr his stomach open.

kabuto ripped through yamato's wood style

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the blade is strong

Byakugou gives her more chakra to put into the blade. It doesn't let her sharpen the blade more.

:| this isn't even funny anymore

Let me use this logic in real life. Adding gasoline to a fire wont make it bigger and have a hotter burn. Like this is basically what you are saying


the more chakra in a technique the stronger it will be. I guess tsunade enhancing onooki jinton did not make it stronger?

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You said this

You were implying Sakura or Katsuya's clones were able to give kakuzu a hard time, which Naruto, a bunshing master barely pulled off.

Well considering the facts what katsuyu can do yes. And sakura is way above that naruto in terms of power.


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Those were edo Kakuzu's dolls. Kabuto's control was strengthened by absorbing orochimaru's power, but the edos still weren't at the peak of their alive powers, except Madara.
I didn't say Sharingan gives you foot speed. The sharingan didn't help kakashi to plan his reactions and timings well enough to damage the dolls, even though Kakashi had the foot speed to not be overwhelmed by the dolls.

So? this doesn't explain ow the dolls will dodge a direct attack from sakura

Even then we've seen Katsuya using acid when Tsunade had fresh opened her seal up. She was battle rusty, but that doesn't have to do with tsunade's chakra in any way.

On that last part. Part of the reason on why she summoned Katsuya was because of Naruto. It is easier for her to protect Naruto with Katsuya and even heal him more if he needed the extra healing. Instead of just healing Naruto, not joining the battle, leaving everything to a poisoned Jiraiya.

okay this is pure bs i am not going to repeat myself fotr the million time. I am sick of repeating and explaining little things to you.

You are talking about healing naruto through katsuyu with no seal LMFAO i am done

lol

this whole debate has been a lol

let's just drop that.
Still Kakuzu's threads are elastic and flexible and can let Sakura's punch go throw them by controlling them and getting them out of way.

And sakura is right on him so she can KO him easy win for her letting her get closer is a dumb move even though dhe will get close. Like i said once she punches him he is screwed. And you can look at my previous reply on this.

smh already addressed why she can't do that kind of punches when she's standing. Domu tanks her normal punches without effort.

keep thinking that lol

rofl

I was just about to type this again


It's easy just to talk and say that they won't effect her, when I've showed you how damaging each of those elements are. Kakuzu's not bound to just combine two elements. He can combine more. He hasn't shown it, but what stops him to combine more? Nothing. So yes, his elements can damage her severely and will give Kakuzu the edge.
And what is stopping sakura from increasing the power in her punch to create bigger boulders that can stop the attack and if some how the attack dose hit her some byakugou repairs the damage.

Katsuya isn't nearly as fast as Kakashi, neither is Sakura. Neither have sharingan as well to see the timing of the attack.


Repairs brain? rofl this won't happen when she instantly dies because of lacking a brain. So good luck regenerating from that.

look at previous post this is just pure repetition at this point

You have yet to provide a scan that states the byakugou cant repair brain damage even though it says

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it regenerates organs and limbs. The brain is a organ try again.

she'd be severely handicapped if she takes a strong attacks. Byakugou doesn't make her invulnerable. And she certainly can die with the brain destroyed, or her head completely blown off. Something kakuzu can pull off with Gian and his fire release, or wind release.

No it regenerates it stop being in denial about the power of her technique.

all those techniques dodged or blocked for the last time. And the byakugou can take and repair the damage. You are acting like you cant comprehend regeneration.

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Let's now compare sound dude's extremely weak sound technique to this.

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My three posts are posted, but Kakuzu's still counting money

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yep because it can bust through stone which is so weak. Stone is stronger than the human skull. And i wasn't comparing i was just showing a technique that is strong was used on a person skull and shino did not have brain damage lol.

plus byakugou deals with any damage done to the body so the who head shot thing isn't happening.

Kakuzu lost because of his greed. Keep on counting that illusion [/SIZE]

 

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Is this over?

 

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Kakuzu the jabroni who can't physically even compete against Sakura stands the slightest chance against Sakura with ninjutsu attacks that can't do shit to her? .