Don't you think it's weird?

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I've been watching Bleach quite a bit lately and reading the Manga but there's just something that's been driving me crazy.

Don't you think it's weird that the night Ichigo jumped into the river to try save the disguised Grand fisher he was able to survive.

For those who are confused what I mean is Ichigo was weak when he was young child while Grand fisher was a powerful hollow.

Also I've been wondering how did Masaki save Ichigo it's not like Masaki was the one leaking the spirit pressure so how did Masaki a supposedly human save Ichigo from Grand fisher it's not like Grand fisher would just leave the source of the spirit pressure untouched so how did Masaki fight off Grand fisher.

I have heard plenty of theories such as.
- Masaki being a Quincy and the brother of Ishida's dad.
- Masaki being Isshin's lieutenant.
- Masaki is secretly a member of the royal family and she escaped to the human world to be with Isshin who was the captain of the zero division.
- Masaki is still alive.
There are plenty of other theories but I decided to just put the top four down.

When you look into these theories they are extremely interesting.

The theory of Masaki being a Quincy would go with the final arc as it is heavily influenced by Quincies so I don't think it would be impossible also it would explain how Ishida's dad and Isshin know each other what we are also uncertain of is did Masaki know Isshin was a Shinigami if so it would also
explain how Masaki was able to see Grand fisher and defend it off.

However that leaves me to my next point if Masaki was a Quincy how was she not able to kill the Grand fisher, I know she was protecting Ichigo but still she must of been a reasonably powerful perhaps she lost her powers similar to how Ishida did. There are a lot of plot holes with this theory I know but we can't really rule it out.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

I have also heard the story of Masaki being Isshin's lieutenant when he was a captain in soul society but then it would lead me to the one question, why would they leave?

Where they being threatened? Aizen did say he knew about Ichigo from the beginning what did he mean by that?

Also if this is true it would mean Isshin and Masaki are extremely old since none of the captains recognize Ichigo's last name which leads me to believe that is not Isshin's last name, this theory is also pretty flawed as one Shinigami would recognize them.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Another theory is Masaki is secretly a member of soul society's royal family and fell in love with Isshin who people have said was the captain of the zero division or the royal guard, even though it's not much apparently in a filler episode it's the one where Ichigo is a sleep and is Frankenstein people have said Isshin is seen wearing a cape with the number zero.

There would be a lot of questions as to why Isshin lost his power he did say he used the Final Getsuga Tenshou but why? was there a bigger plot did Masaki and Isshin lose their powers on purpose so they could be together I mean it would make sense as the Royal family would be the noblest family and they might not of accepted Isshin.

This would also mean Ichigo is a noble right? I mean Byakuya said that those from noble families usually have high spiritual pressure.
Maybe that was Kubo's way of hinting.
It would explain how Ichigo's spiritual pressure is higher than most as most Shinigami have been alive well over 100 years yet in under a year Ichigo was able to storm soul society with 10 days of training and beat Ikkaku, Renji and Kenpachi all strong Shinigami.

my next question is what made Ukitake look at Ichigo weirdly I know it was probably because he looked like Kaien but perhaps there was another reason.

Then being able to master Bankai in three days and stop that fire phoenix that held the power of a million Zanpakto's with just one.

All I can say is Ichigo is connected to the royal family but how is something we will have to find out.

Back to Isshin and Masaki I am uncertain about Masaki but Isshin seems to know Uruhara and Yourichi they both seem to care about Ichigo quite a bit so what is their relationship with his parents I don't think it's all a coincidence that Isshin, Yourichi and Uruhara all former captains decided to settle in Karakura town which also seems to be the place to make the royal key which links us back to the royal family, perhaps Aizen was wrong and it wasn't exactly Karakura town he needed maybe it was something else.

Anyway Uruhara knows Isshin and by Uruhara's expression when the two are talking when Isshin beats Grand fisher he seems to know her perhaps it was hi who provided both Isshin and Masaki Gigai so they could hide from soul society.

Perhaps I'm wrong and it's the other way round and Isshin is the member of the royal family.

I like this theory probably the most it would answer a lot of questions however the plot holes are can Gigai get pregnant and if Aizen knew about Ichigo how did the royal family not.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Now the last theory I have heard is that Masaki is still alive and apparently the Grand fisher attack was set up, and who ever set it up gave everyone the slip by providing a fake body.

This would be something Kubo would do especially with this new arc perhaps Masaki is under one of the cloaks the Vanderiech are using and being controlled or threatened.

This would be major trolling by Kubo but it would still be interesting to watch maybe Kubo has been setting Ichigo up from the very beginning so he would meet his mother alive again.
:confused:

Thank you for reading I know a lot of these theories are really out there but is it that hard to imagine Kubo doing something like this personally I would love if one of there theories came true.

However like many people I was born with the curse of over thinking and being very curious and thinking out of the box.

Tell me what you think.

:scorps:
 
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Those are some great theories and any of them could be right! I have had similar ideas, especially about his mom either being a Quincy or from the royal family. I don't think she was a shinigami as that would leave kurosaki not being as unique. My most far fetched theory is that she was a vasto lorde. This would set up a forbidden love and make kurosaki very unique, and would play into Aizen trying to merge shinigami and hollow powers together.
 

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I've been watching Bleach quite a bit lately and reading the Manga but there's just something that's been driving me crazy.

Don't you think it's weird that the night Ichigo jumped into the river to try save the disguised Grand fisher he was able to survive.

For those who are confused what I mean is Ichigo was weak when he was young child while Grand fisher was a powerful hollow.

Also I've been wondering how did Masaki save Ichigo it's not like Masaki was the one leaking the spirit pressure so how did Masaki a supposedly human save Ichigo from Grand fisher it's not like Grand fisher would just leave the source of the spirit pressure untouched so how did Masaki fight off Grand fisher.

I have heard plenty of theories such as.
- Masaki being a Quincy and the brother of Ishida's dad.
- Masaki being Isshin's lieutenant.
- Masaki is secretly a member of the royal family and she escaped to the human world to be with Isshin who was the captain of the zero division.
- Masaki is still alive.
There are plenty of other theories but I decided to just put the top four down.

When you look into these theories they are extremely interesting.

The theory of Masaki being a Quincy would go with the final arc as it is heavily influenced by Quincies so I don't think it would be impossible also it would explain how Ishida's dad and Isshin know each other what we are also uncertain of is did Masaki know Isshin was a Shinigami if so it would also
explain how Masaki was able to see Grand fisher and defend it off.

However that leaves me to my next point if Masaki was a Quincy how was she not able to kill the Grand fisher, I know she was protecting Ichigo but still she must of been a reasonably powerful perhaps she lost her powers similar to how Ishida did. There are a lot of plot holes with this theory I know but we can't really rule it out.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

I have also heard the story of Masaki being Isshin's lieutenant when he was a captain in soul society but then it would lead me to the one question, why would they leave?

Where they being threatened? Aizen did say he knew about Ichigo from the beginning what did he mean by that?

Also if this is true it would mean Isshin and Masaki are extremely old since none of the captains recognize Ichigo's last name which leads me to believe that is not Isshin's last name, this theory is also pretty flawed as one Shinigami would recognize them.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Another theory is Masaki is secretly a member of soul society's royal family and fell in love with Isshin who people have said was the captain of the zero division or the royal guard, even though it's not much apparently in a filler episode it's the one where Ichigo is a sleep and is Frankenstein people have said Isshin is seen wearing a cape with the number zero.

There would be a lot of questions as to why Isshin lost his power he did say he used the Final Getsuga Tenshou but why? was there a bigger plot did Masaki and Isshin lose their powers on purpose so they could be together I mean it would make sense as the Royal family would be the noblest family and they might not of accepted Isshin.

This would also mean Ichigo is a noble right? I mean Byakuya said that those from noble families usually have high spiritual pressure.
Maybe that was Kubo's way of hinting.
It would explain how Ichigo's spiritual pressure is higher than most as most Shinigami have been alive well over 100 years yet in under a year Ichigo was able to storm soul society with 10 days of training and beat Ikkaku, Renji and Kenpachi all strong Shinigami.

my next question is what made Ukitake look at Ichigo weirdly I know it was probably because he looked like Kaien but perhaps there was another reason.

Then being able to master Bankai in three days and stop that fire phoenix that held the power of a million Zanpakto's with just one.

All I can say is Ichigo is connected to the royal family but how is something we will have to find out.

Back to Isshin and Masaki I am uncertain about Masaki but Isshin seems to know Uruhara and Yourichi they both seem to care about Ichigo quite a bit so what is their relationship with his parents I don't think it's all a coincidence that Isshin, Yourichi and Uruhara all former captains decided to settle in Karakura town which also seems to be the place to make the royal key which links us back to the royal family, perhaps Aizen was wrong and it wasn't exactly Karakura town he needed maybe it was something else.

Anyway Uruhara knows Isshin and by Uruhara's expression when the two are talking when Isshin beats Grand fisher he seems to know her perhaps it was hi who provided both Isshin and Masaki Gigai so they could hide from soul society.

Perhaps I'm wrong and it's the other way round and Isshin is the member of the royal family.

I like this theory probably the most it would answer a lot of questions however the plot holes are can Gigai get pregnant and if Aizen knew about Ichigo how did the royal family not.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Now the last theory I have heard is that Masaki is still alive and apparently the Grand fisher attack was set up, and who ever set it up gave everyone the slip by providing a fake body.

This would be something Kubo would do especially with this new arc perhaps Masaki is under one of the cloaks the Vanderiech are using and being controlled or threatened.

This would be major trolling by Kubo but it would still be interesting to watch maybe Kubo has been setting Ichigo up from the very beginning so he would meet his mother alive again.
:confused:

Thank you for reading I know a lot of these theories are really out there but is it that hard to imagine Kubo doing something like this personally I would love if one of there theories came true.

However like many people I was born with the curse of over thinking and being very curious and thinking out of the box.

Tell me what you think.

:scorps:
Yes, very interesting theories indeed. Although I admit they each have their holes.

For example, I find the theory that Masaki was a Quincy to be a bit...unoriginal. I mean, wouldn't that make Ichigo part Quincy? So not only is Ichigo a Shinigami/Hollow/Fullbringer, but he's part Quincy now too? You still have to be trained in the Quincy Arts to actually be a Quincy (which Ichigo isn't), but that's still so repetitive to make Ichigo another "part something".

I'm not bashing your theory. I'm just pointing out the fact that it would be a big disappointment for Kubo to drag on something like that. But I guess anythings possible. It would connect Isshin and Ryuken and make sense because Masaki was a human seeing that Quincys are also (suppose to be...) humans.


I won't disagree that they could be part of the Royal family though. Ichigo's been a mystery ever since the beginning - even more so with the revelation that his father being a Shinigami as well. I reckon Kubo will be shedding light on him and his family's past in this current arc






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Yeah personally the Quincy theory was only in there because of Ishida's dad anyway here's the link to the site if you want to see some more theories.

 

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actually I thought that masaki was certainly a human and wanted to prove it with this page.
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now I think that she wasn't a human too. because as I remember aizen said that "you're half human and half..."
isshin: "you talk too much."

I thought that ichigo was half human and half human but isshin cuts after the "you're half shinigami and half..." part. so the other part must be more shocking to hear :|

though I'll have to check the anime too, and see what does it's translation say
 

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actually I thought that masaki was certainly a human and wanted to prove it with this page.
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now I think that she wasn't a human too. because as I remember aizen said that "you're half human and half..."
isshin: "you talk too much."

I thought that ichigo was half human and half human but isshin cuts after the "you're half shinigami and half..." part. so the other part must be more shocking to hear :|

though I'll have to check the anime too, and see what does it's translation say
That could definitely have a part in this new arc
 

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i think Masaki just protected him and then the hollow just took masaki and left ichigo
cause he was more interested in a women
he used ichigo as a bait
then there is a possibility that the hollow sensed a quincy or a shinigami coming towards him so he left ichigo alive and ran off
 

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That could definitely have a part in this new arc
I watched the anime but there aizen says "because you're human and..."

I listened it and says "naze nara kimi wa ningen to..." so it's not a translation error. unless the anime producers decided to change that part which is unlikely.

if so ichigo is half human, and since isshin is a shinigami masaki has to be a human


then again :D I made some research and someone says this
the raws for chapter 397 & 398. In 397, Aizen tells Ichigo, "Naze nara kimi wa shinigami to..." which mean, "Because you are shinigami and...", but in chapter 398, what Ichigo heard was, "Naze nara kimi wa ningen to..." which means, "Because you are human and..."

everything is screwed :|
 

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actually I thought that masaki was certainly a human and wanted to prove it with this page.
You must be registered for see images

now I think that she wasn't a human too. because as I remember aizen said that "you're half human and half..."
isshin: "you talk too much."

I thought that ichigo was half human and half human but isshin cuts after the "you're half shinigami and half..." part. so the other part must be more shocking to hear :|

though I'll have to check the anime too, and see what does it's translation say
I watched the anime but there aizen says "because you're human and..."

I listened it and says "naze nara kimi wa ningen to..." so it's not a translation error. unless the anime producers decided to change that part which is unlikely.

if so ichigo is half human, and since isshin is a shinigami masaki has to be a human


then again :D I made some research and someone says this
the raws for chapter 397 & 398. In 397, Aizen tells Ichigo, "Naze nara kimi wa shinigami to..." which mean, "Because you are shinigami and...", but in chapter 398, what Ichigo heard was, "Naze nara kimi wa ningen to..." which means, "Because you are human and..."

everything is screwed :|
I think its an error in the anime part..i think masaki is not human..but awesome theory...
 

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well i think kubo is a big troll so if he says: eyeyeyey lets revive ichigos mom, make her younger, hook her up with ichigo, then ichigo can realize that its his mom and he will kill himself, because he cant live with this truth... then it just happens ya know.

btw: stop thinking to much about it. there are many things that will never be explained fully by kubo-troll. :-\
 
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