Don't underestimate Kakashi's speed... he's as fast as Gate Mode Gai.

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And as a note to add... while I fully believe Kakashi has access to these speeds, there's a reason he doesn't use them.
It's because he's scared to, and of the after effects it may have on his body... he was already put in shock and worried for Lee, even knowing he had the ability to use that power.

So yes, just because he has it doesn't mean he'll ever use it. I'm only saying
 

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And Itachi is as fast as KM Naruto lel
 

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I agree but I'm a little confused. I thought Sasuke had to train with Kakashi to get that fast. I never knew that he could actually copy someone's speed like it were a jutsu. Can you provide a scan for that?

Not joking at all please show me a scan of kakashi going faster then 1st gate
There are no scans for it... as far as manga logic and personality traits go, Kakashi is too scared to use the gates. He'll never use them even though he has compete access to them.

And troy, like I said there are no scans. But it's very safe to assume he can use them as well, due to the fact that him and Gai spar just for the fun of it, and he's more than likely been demonstrated that power over and over again. But like I said, he wouldn't use it.
 

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show me one why hes not no one really knows for sure exept the creators but if you factor up everything about kakashi it fits
 

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And as a note to add... while I fully believe Kakashi has access to these speeds, there's a reason he doesn't use them.
It's because he's scared to, and of the after effects it may have on his body... he was already put in shock and worried for Lee, even knowing he had the ability to use that power.

So yes, just because he has it doesn't mean he'll ever use it. I'm only saying
no proof to back up your theory . Kakashi has never shown such speed feats saying he trained with gai , gai used the gates is speculation at best . gai and lee body is trained to use gates . kakashi is not
 

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hes spared with Guy so much he should be at least up to the sixth gate by now
 

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no proof to back up your theory . Kakashi has never shown such speed feats saying he trained with gai , gai used the gates is speculation at best . gai and lee body is trained to use gates . kakashi is not
Seriously? Are you freaking serious? No proof to back up my theory?
Go back to page one and reread aaaaaaaall of the first post pal.

And it's like you completely ignored what I said... I never said he trained with Gai. What I said was that he's been displayed the power so many times his sharingan is surely accustomed to it. And dude... you just said 'Gai used the gates is speculation at best'... wow... no words.
 

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hes spared with Guy so much he should be at least up to the sixth gate by now
sasuke never copied lee gate speed . Only lee speed without gates . Saying kakashi trained with gai has nothing to due with kakashi abilities to open 6 gates . his body is not trained for that , i like kakashi as much as the next person , but giving kakashi 6 gate speed is .. fanboyish . nothing in the manga even hints that kakashi vn open 6 gates . its pure speculation at its finest . Almost like saying choji can use shadow stitching cause he sparred with shikamaru alot
 

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You didn't have to say all that. pain said it himself that kakashi is fast enough to be a danger and yes kakashi was known for both speed and copying jutsu's.
 

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Seriously? Are you freaking serious? No proof to back up my theory?
Go back to page one and reread aaaaaaaall of the first post pal.

And it's like you completely ignored what I said... I never said he trained with Gai. What I said was that he's been displayed the power so many times his sharingan is surely accustomed to it. And dude... you just said 'Gai used the gates is speculation at best'... wow... no words.
i meant to say gai using gates during their sparring is speculation .
 

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the that's way different than the gates the gates are a physical think he has spared Guy his whole life and you don't think his body can take it? PLEASE!
 

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sasuke never copied lee gate speed . Only lee speed without gates . Saying kakashi trained with gai has nothing to due with kakashi abilities to open 6 gates . his body is not trained for that , i like kakashi as much as the next person , but giving kakashi 6 gate speed is .. fanboyish . nothing in the manga even hints that kakashi vn open 6 gates . its pure speculation at its finest . Almost like saying choji can use shadow stitching cause he sparred with shikamaru alot
I never. Said. Sasuke. Copied. Lee. Gate. Speed.
And I never said Kakashi trained with Gai... how many times do I have to say that?
And if Sasuke can handle a near instant speed, than Kakashi can handle that too with a little training. I mean, Sasuke did what took Lee years to master in a few weeks because he was a genius. And Kakashi is too, so nothings stopping him from using that speed. Plus, he's seen it all his life and is no slow poke. His body is powerful enough to pull it off whenever he wants. And be reminded... Gai wasn't moving at full 6th gate speed, so he can't move at complete 6th gate speed.
And no, the manga never bothers letting him open gates, because he'd be too OP. He's not supposed to be that strong, that's the role for Naruto/Hashi/Madara. Another reason why it's never been hinted like I said before, is because he never wants to use them. He's too cautious for that.

Regardless of anything, Kakashi is more than capable of speed blitzing. That's the main point of this thread.

You didn't have to say all that. pain said it himself that kakashi is fast enough to be a danger and yes kakashi was known for both speed and copying jutsu's.
I really shouldn't, but some of these non believers need to be shown the light.
 

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the that's way different than the gates the gates are a physical think he has spared Guy his whole life and you don't think his body can take it? PLEASE!
because he sparred with gai he can open 6 gates ? first you and the o.t. are assuming that when they sparred gai opened 6 gates . and second what makes you think kakashi has the physical ability to open 6 gates ? kakashi has shown no speed feats even close to 6 gates speed ! so basically you and the o.t. are assuming that kakashi can open 6 gates ! with no facts to support your claim except pure speculation
 

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because he sparred with gai he can open 6 gates ? first you and the o.t. are assuming that when they sparred gai opened 6 gates . and second what makes you think kakashi has the physical ability to open 6 gates ? kakashi has shown no speed feats even close to 6 gates speed ! so basically you and the o.t. are assuming that kakashi can open 6 gates ! with no facts to support your claim except pure speculation
And opening the gates and accessing that speed are 2 completely different things. I don't believe he can open any gates, I just believe he can use that speed.

And it's clear Gai has used those gates before.. you think every fight they've ever had, he's never opened a single gate?
 

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I never. Said. Sasuke. Copied. Lee. Gate. Speed.
And I never said Kakashi trained with Gai... how many times do I have to say that?
And if Sasuke can handle a near instant speed, than Kakashi can handle that too with a little training. I mean, Sasuke did what took Lee years to master in a few weeks because he was a genius. And Kakashi is too, so nothings stopping him from using that speed. Plus, he's seen it all his life and is no slow poke. His body is powerful enough to pull it off whenever he wants. And be reminded... Gai wasn't moving at full 6th gate speed, so he can't move at complete 6th gate speed.
And no, the manga never bothers letting him open gates, because he'd be too OP. He's not supposed to be that strong, that's the role for Naruto/Hashi/Madara. Another reason why it's never been hinted like I said before, is because he never wants to use them. He's too cautious for that.

Regardless of anything, Kakashi is more than capable of speed blitzing. That's the main point of this thread.

I really shouldn't, but some of these non believers need to be shown the light.
speed blitzing and gate speed is totally different ! i never said kakashi couldnt speed blitz an enemy . 6th gate is removing restrictors from the body allowing it to go that fast . I dont know why you would just assume kakashi can do that .
 

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you don't think he can learn to open gates he learned over 1000 jutsus man and if you train and beat a guy who can open all the gates most of his life you think you would pick up on it

sorry if I messed up on spelling im tired :/
 

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Sharingan cannot copy speed.. Sasuke never copied lee's speed.. he copied his taijutsu and trained for his speed...and thus ends this thread
 

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we no it cant copy seed we went over this a while ago
 

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Yeah he's very fast, but not as fast as what you believe. Don't overrate him, he's cool & good with his current status:)
 
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