[VS] Doflamingo vs Rayliegh
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Scenario 1 I believe doffy can def take this I rank him around Marco level (pretimeskip have no idea how he is post)
Especially with his endurance and durability awakening etc tho reighlee prob has stronger haki..
Scenario 2 I give to doffy as well cuz we haven't seen enough of what the dark king could do what kizaru showed against him doffy could do it as well...
Although I rank reighlee above doffy in my top 40 I believe doffy wins this fight more times then not due to sheer versitlity
Especially with his endurance and durability awakening etc tho reighlee prob has stronger haki..
Scenario 2 I give to doffy as well cuz we haven't seen enough of what the dark king could do what kizaru showed against him doffy could do it as well...
Although I rank reighlee above doffy in my top 40 I believe doffy wins this fight more times then not due to sheer versitlity
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Rayleigh wins scenario one with some difficulty and second scenario he'll be a lot more comfortable.
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I don't see how Rayleigh wins, but I beleive he'll win.
DD only showed basic usage of haki, Rayleigh removed a time bomb from a prisoner's neck in Sabody (with what I believe was haki) so he can definitely do weird things with his haki. Infact DD was surprised when Luffy was still elastic even tho he was coated with haki in G4, so I'm guessing Rayleigh would have enough haki skills up his sleeve to take out DD.
DD only showed basic usage of haki, Rayleigh removed a time bomb from a prisoner's neck in Sabody (with what I believe was haki) so he can definitely do weird things with his haki. Infact DD was surprised when Luffy was still elastic even tho he was coated with haki in G4, so I'm guessing Rayleigh would have enough haki skills up his sleeve to take out DD.
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I would say Rayleigh mostly because of hype, the only known Roger Pirate I think Doffy could beat is Buggy, granted we only know 4.
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Middle is the most likely, considering by feats he's better than someone who can stall an Admiral and shrugged off blows that sent Fujitora flying and bruised him. He can't defeat any of the major players in the top tier, but he can push them which should put him in the middle at most.
He's not above Luffy by much at all and Luffy himself isn't in the middle of top tier. When you say can stall an Admiral I hope you're not referring to Sabo because DD isn't above him, as for Luffy he never bruised Fujitora and got immedtely sent flying on two of the only two times Fuji took the offensive. DD isn't pushing any big boys like Akainu or Kuzan past mid-dif, while the only 'top tiers' I could see him pushing are the likes of Vista.
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There's no way that Doffy is in the middle of top tier. That would mean that he is on the same level as admirals and yonkos.
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Agree with the latter and disagree with the former. Luffy needed dozens of people, including Law, to defeat Doflamingo. That's enough to show that Luffy isn't quite on his level yet.
Jozu.
Yes, he did. When he hit with Gear Third, it bruised him.
So what? Doesn't change that Luffy was also pushing Fujitora backwards as well and this is while Fujitora was attempting to block him.
Admirals and Yonkos are in the top of the top tier, just like Roger and WB. Miss me with the garbage that the older generation were stronger than everyone in the new era, that's nothing but fanfiction.
Dafuq? Admirals and Yonkou arent in the middle of top tiers. Wtf you smoking?
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Scenario 1: Rayleigh lowest end of high diff
Scenario 2: Rayleigh mid-high diff.
Rayleigh made an Admiral bleed while he was on guard within a few seconds into their clash. He completely held Kizaru in one spot without losing any ground, even forced Kizaru to fight using a sword.
Pretty sure thats the only time an Admiral has bled while on guard.
That > Doflamingo.
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Admirals and Yonkos are in the middle of top tier and Roger and Prime WB are in the top of top tier. The fact that an old Rayleigh who hasn't fought or trained for 22 years was able to put up a good fight against Kizaru shows that Roger is above Admirals and Yonkos.
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No it doesn't. For one, Kizaru isn't primarily a swordsman. He didn't pull out his sword technique not even once in the War of the Best or against the Supernova. When he went up against Whitebeard himself, he didn't once even attempt to pull out that sword technique. That shows that it's just a secondary thing to Kizaru, while Rayleigh is by all indication a primary sword fighter. The fact that Kizaru and Rayleigh were evenly tied in a game that is primary for Rayleigh and at best secondary for Kizaru shows how much weaker Rayleigh is than Kizaru atm. The fact that Rayleigh was getting tired at that also reduces the portrayal he got during that duel.
Luffy only needed that because he ran out of G4 while in G4 Luffy is comparable to DD.
Oh, Jozu is iffy because DD caught him off guard I won't place him below DD because of that.
Shading, the bruise disappears right after.
Luffy pushed him back when he was off guard, him blocking doesn't mean anything, or did you expect Fuji to let Luffy hit him?