Does Sasuke need Sharingan to land Chidori?

[Pukkake Pokayo]

The question isn't can he use it but can he land it. Of course he can look at an enemy, charge up a chidori and go for them. If you read the manga you'd know it's the counter attack that is the issue. The sharingan is used to make sure he doesn't get rekt before he can land the attack. Imo it depends on Sasukes ability at the time as his reflexes and speed increases and the opponent. The gap between these two variables determines if it's successful or not. I'm sure you could make a graph or some shizz. Any Sasuke could probably land a chidori 1v1 against a samurai for example because they're skrubs and they only really have a sword for countering so it's more predictable. As for the rasengan/chidori charge after the Danzo fight, I wouldn't count it. They were doing their classic clash. No need to worry about surprise counters, he saw Naruto heading at him with a rasengan. That's just my synopsis anyway..

 

[madvictory]

Base Kakashi is far more skilled than Base Sasuke, so if Kakashi needs Sharingan in order to use Raikiri, so does Sasuke with Chidori.

 

[To Whatever]

Yes he can use it without Sharingan. And the 2nd scan you posted isn't right since he was completely out of chakra and exhausted. Besides the fact he used it nearly blind after the Danzo fight.

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He knew what Naruto was going to do. He also knew Naruto was gonna go heads up with him as well.

People are using his blind chidori as validation when any top tier shinobi would end up killing or countering him if he attempted it in base mode (or blind)

 

[End of Days]

Yes otherwise the opponent will either dodge like danzo or counter perfectly like naruto.

 

[To Whatever]

Sasuke can. Let's not compare him to Kakashi. He has done it perfectly on more than one occasion. The incident you posted is rather pointless, given that he was completely exhausted by then. So much so, that he could barely move.

His mastery over Chidori is several tiers above Kakashi.

Naruto was just as exhausted as he was. Had Sasuke's Sharingan not faded, he would of most likely fatally wounded Naruto.

I'm not saying he cant land Chidori in base mode against fodders. But does he need it against above average shinobi like some members of the Akatsuki or Orochimaru for example.

The question isn't can he use it but can he land it. Of course he can look at an enemy, charge up a chidori and go for them. If you read the manga you'd know it's the counter attack that is the issue. The sharingan is used to make sure he doesn't get rekt before he can land the attack. Imo it depends on Sasukes ability at the time as his reflexes and speed increases and the opponent. The gap between these two variables determines if it's successful or not. I'm sure you could make a graph or some shizz. Any Sasuke could probably land a chidori 1v1 against a samurai for example because they're skrubs and they only really have a sword for countering so it's more predictable. As for the rasengan/chidori charge after the Danzo fight, I wouldn't count it. They were doing their classic clash. No need to worry about surprise counters, he saw Naruto heading at him with a rasengan. That's just my synopsis anyway..

I agree

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[BenjerminGaye]

Didn't danzo side step his ass?

 

[To Whatever]

Didn't danzo side step his ass?

Yep:

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[BenjerminGaye]

Yep:

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And niqqa's thought he could get it done without it.

Had thus been american football his ankles would be broken by now.

 

[maniaoqan]

You can land Chidori without Sharingan but since Chidori gets in the way of your sight you might not be able to see any counter-attack depending the angle of it comes.

 

[Char Aznable]

Can he? Sure.

Sasuke unlike Kakashi is reckless and stupid. He picked a fight with the five kage and went blind for his trouble.

At the five kage summit he tried to chidori Kakashi but Naruto intervened and clashed with Sasuke.

 

[shelke]

Naruto was just as exhausted as he was. Had Sasuke's Sharingan not faded, he would of most likely fatally wounded Naruto.

I'm not saying he cant land Chidori in base mode against fodders. But does he need it against above average shinobi like some members of the Akatsuki or Orochimaru for example.

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An assumption then, when Naruto was being given Kyubi's chakra quite constantly. The manga has shown Sasuke to use it perfectly without Sharingan. Not once, not twice, but thrice. If you want to create your own interpretations and find loop holes in the logic when there aren't any, then be my guest.

Sasuke can use it without Sharingan. This high tier or low tier logic is self invented.

 

[To Whatever]

An assumption then, when Naruto was being given Kyubi's chakra quite constantly. The manga has shown Sasuke to use it perfectly without Sharingan. Not once, not twice, but thrice. If you want to create your own interpretations and find loop holes in the logic when there aren't any, then be my guest.

Sasuke can use it without Sharingan. This high tier or low tier logic is self invented.

I never said he couldn't use it without sharingan.

It would just leave him vulnerable with it....



Are you really going to say Sasuke can land a Chidori blow on any high tier shinobi without use of Sharingan? (Rinne-Sasuke omitted)

He needs Sharingan to land chidori on people like Madara, Itachi, Obito or anyone with speed and reaction feats.

 

[shelke]

I never said he couldn't use it without sharingan.

It would just leave him vulnerable with it....

Are you really going to say Sasuke can land a Chidori blow on any high tier shinobi without use of Sharingan? (Rinne-Sasuke omitted)

I'd love to see EMS Sasuke and below land a Chidori hit on people like Madara, Itachi, or Nagato without the assistance of Sharingan.

When he is in top condition and not exhausted? Yes, he can. I don't remember Sharingan granting someone reflex reaction speed or any form of speed. It's all Sasuke.

 

[To Whatever]

When he is in top condition and not exhausted? Yes, he can. I don't remember Sharingan granting someone reflex reaction speed or any form of speed. It's all Sasuke.

Sharingan gives precog.

Sasuke needs precog to make sure he doesn't get counter-attacked when he goes to strike with his Chidori. Otherwise he'd either miss of get counter attacked.

 

[DroGGz0r]

When he is in top condition and not exhausted? Yes, he can. I don't remember Sharingan granting someone reflex reaction speed or any form of speed. It's all Sasuke.

It's not about the speed, but the precog ability sharingan offer. It make it easier to observe what happens around you.

 

[maniaoqan]

When he is in top condition and not exhausted? Yes, he can. I don't remember Sharingan granting someone reflex reaction speed or any form of speed. It's all Sasuke.

You can't react to something you can't sense. And Sasuke isn't actually famous with his senses other than his sight. Without Sharingan, Sasuke can't react enemies counter attack while he is charging them with Chidori.

 

[shelke]

None of you have proven otherwise. Precog doesn't improve anything. Also, Sasuke is fully capable of sensing attacks, as he did so with Mei when he wasn't even looking at her. Let's not compare Sasuke to Kakashi, when there is a vast maw of difference between their skills. Why do I keep repeating myself? Not to mention despite the physical injury, he went into the Kenjutsu fight against Bee without his sharingan and pulled it out sometime at the end.

Like I said - no proof for this assumption.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Sharingan gives precog.

Sasuke needs precog to make sure he doesn't get counter-attacked when he goes to strike with his Chidori. Otherwise he'd either miss of get counter attacked.

This person knows what they're talking about ^

 

[To Whatever]

None of you have proven otherwise. Precog doesn't improve anything. Also, Sasuke is fully capable of sensing attacks, as he did so with Mei when he wasn't even looking at her. Let's not compare Sasuke to Kakashi, when there is a vast maw of difference between their skills. Why do I keep repeating myself? Not to mention despite the physical injury, he went into the Kenjutsu fight against Bee without his sharingan and pulled it out sometime at the end.

Like I said - no proof for this assumption.

Is that why it took 3T for Sasuke to NOT get destroyed by a Kyuubi Naruto?

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Why the Manga explicitly stated his reliance on Sharingan's precog?

Not once:

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But Twice:

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FYI: Noticed he pulled sharingan out when he saw he had absolutely no advantage against Bee at the time (Who STILL wasn't taking the kid seriously)

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But this has nothing to do with his fight against Bee or even how healthy he is. As it doesn't matter. A Sasuke against non-fodder Shinobi is going to require him to pull out Sharingan to chidori.

 

[shelke]

Let's see, your first three examples are so irrelevant that it's not even funny.

- Part I Sasuke - Irrelevant example.
- Part I Sasuke - Irrelevant example.
- Part II Sasuke using Kenjutsu only - Irrelevant example, or the most irrelevant of all, as he was pushing Madara back, so Pre-Cog usage to feign some kind of edge in argument here isn't even doing you any good. If only you had paid attention to the prefix, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, given that no attack was coming from Madara. Do you even know what PRE means? I mean, if it's put before cognition?

By the way, where is that Chidori usage?

Right, which is why he stated later to Hachibi that Sauske was the strongest opponent he ever fought? Let's see you wriggle around that one. Also, read the manga properly, given that this Sasuke never healed his injuries, a fact repeated quite a few times even before and after the fight. So, what am I exactly looking for here? A Suigetsu saying he himself can't read his movements or the entire page of Sharingan-less sparing you missed a page back? Might want to turn it. Just for fun's sake.