Does chakra=...ki..=Reiatsu...haki

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If it was only said in the anime then its not canon.
Who came up with this? As Long as it doesn't contradict what is stated in the manga it should be fine.
 

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Who came up with this? As Long as it doesn't contradict what is stated in the manga it should be fine.

It does since it contradicts the manga's definition of genjutsu.
 

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It does since it contradicts the manga's definition of genjutsu.

No not really since the brain is the one producing chakra. Also it explains how it works on animals and other mammals
 

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No not really since the brain is the one producing chakra.

No, the Brain doesn't create chakra, chakra is created when physical and spiritual energy are molded together and then transported through out the body via cells along the chakra network. In other words Chakra flows to the Brain, not the other way around.
 

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does chakra=ki=Reiatsu? And maybe haki.

Should the said energies be equalized in multiverse battles?

Someone inform me of haki what is it similar to and made of?



I will make another thread about Sasuke, other hst characters, and other manga characters who can solo Goku and his friends.

chakra = ki = chi. These 3 are one in the same, used it mythological tales of Hinduism,Buddhism and Jainism too I suppose. The other two are not real world deal, but they all are nothing but different words to represent Spiritual Energy residing within the body so yes, they are equal.
 

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Another thing if we have to nerf the NV because people claim the anime is not canon and other things a plot hole that just makes other verses inferior. When people say Genjutsu doesn't work outside of NV even thought the NV(manga,movie,anime) says otherwise that makes NV superior since we have to nerf it.
 

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No not really since the brain is the one producing chakra. Also it explains how it works on animals and other mammals

No, the Brain doesn't create chakra, chakra is created when physical and spiritual energy are molded together and then transported through out the body via cells along the chakra network. In other words Chakra flows to the Brain, not the other way around.

Mahesvara was about right
 

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No, the Brain doesn't create chakra, chakra is created when physical and spiritual energy are molded together and then transported through out the body via cells along the chakra network. In other words Chakra flows to the Brain, not the other way around.

I remember talk of organs producing chakra, anyways it's the NV which includes anime & manga vs other verses
 

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Another thing if we have to nerf the NV because people claim the anime is not canon and other things a plot hole that just makes other verses inferior. When people say Genjutsu doesn't work outside of NV even thought the NV(manga,movie,anime) says otherwise that makes NV superior since we have to nerf it.

When does the manga ever say genjutsu works outside of Naruto verse? Never Lol. Your just using genjutsu as a scape goat in your Naruto vs DBZ argument in order to give Naruto verse a small chance of winning. I already gave you the reasons why it doesn't work, yet you still deny it and I refuted everyone of your counter arguments. Dude give it a rest, seriously no one in NV would have a shot at beating any of the Z Fighters.
 
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I remember talk of organs producing chakra, anyways it's the NV which includes anime & manga vs other verses

Yes, I read that in the wiki, however Chakra is formed at the center of the body, so the organs that produce chakra would reside in the center as well.
 

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Another thing if we have to nerf the NV because people claim the anime is not canon and other things a plot hole that just makes other verses inferior. When people say Genjutsu doesn't work outside of NV even thought the NV(manga,movie,anime) says otherwise that makes NV superior since we have to nerf it.

And it's not nerfing if it won't work in the first place U_U.
 

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When does the manga ever say genjutsu works outside of Naruto verse? Never Lol. Your just using genjutsu as a scape goat in your Naruto vs DBZ argument in order to give Naruto verse a small chance of winning. I already gave you the reasons why it doesn't work, yet you still deny it and I refuted everyone of your counter arguments. Dude give it a rest, seriously no one in NV would have a shot at beating any of the Z Fighters.

No when I am on comic vine or anime vice they throw the definition in my face in that definition they always point out controlling chakra but there are other instances where this is not the case like Genjutsu affecting the prosencephalon and Kaguya doing it to those who had no chakra do you know what these two have in common they both happened in the NV. Since it is a NV vs other verses Genjutsu works.
 

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No when I am on comic vine or anime vice they throw the definition in my face in that definition they always point out controlling chakra but there are other instances where this is not the case like Genjutsu affecting the prosencephalon and Kaguya doing it to those who had no chakra do you know what these two have in common they both happened in the NV. Since it is a NV vs other verses Genjutsu works.

The people she used it on originally already had chakra, she was upset that her chakra spread to other human's so she merged with the God Tree and Used IT to try to get it back. When that happened Hamura and Hagoromo defeated her and the ten tails. Then Hagoromo sealed the ten tails inside himself and sealed Kaguya because of her power Hungry Nature.

Of course not everyone had Chakra, so not everyone got caught in IT. She wouldn't have to taken drastic measures if people didn't obtain her chakra in the first place.
 
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The people she used it on originally already had chakra, she was upset that her chakra spread to other human's so she merged with the God Tree and Used IT to try to get it back. When that happened Hamura and Hagoromo defeated her and the ten tails. Then Hagoromo sealed the ten tails inside himself and sealed Kaguya because of her power Hungry Nature.

Of course not everyone had Chakra, so not everyone got caught in IT. She wouldn't have to the drastic measure's if people didn't obtain her chakra in the first place.
There's something wrong with that timeline of yours. Kaguya didn't use IT on a planetary scale since there was no moon she probably caught anyone in her line of view then they become victims of the shinju tree turning into white zestu. Hagoromo came after that she wanted her chakra back from him and his brother she was defeated then he spreaded chakra.
 

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The people she used it on originally already had chakra, she was upset that her chakra spread to other human's so she merged with the God Tree and Used IT to try to get it back. When that happened Hamura and Hagoromo defeated her and the ten tails. Then Hagoromo sealed the ten tails inside himself and sealed Kaguya because of her power Hungry Nature.

Of course not everyone had Chakra, so not everyone got caught in IT. She wouldn't have to the drastic measure's if people didn't obtain her chakra in the first place.
I will make that thread tomorrow about who solo's Goku
 

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There's something wrong with that timeline of yours. Kaguya didn't use IT on a planetary scale since there was no moon she probably caught anyone in her line of view then they become victims of the shinju tree turning into white zestu. Hagoromo came after that she wanted her chakra back from him and his brother she was defeated then he spreaded chakra.

I never said she used IT on a planetary scale. Kaguya was on a power trip, the purpose of IT for her was to take back her chakra and make a army of Zetsu's(reason for that still remains a mystery).
 

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Well Haki is just willpower

Can you tell me what Reiatsu is though?

A very common mistake people tend to make regarding Reiatsu is the fact that Reiatsu isn't energy, it is the physical force and pressure that exudes from the exertion of Reiryoku, which is the energy stored within beings of the Bleachverse. Reiryoku, is the energy equivalent to that of Chakra, Ki and possibly Haki. When a Shinigami exerts their Reiroyoku (literally meaning; spiritual energy), Reiatsu is created. However, Reiatsu does have it's own unique qualities and signature characteristics, as beings in the Bleachverse have been able to distinguish between other figures in the Bleachverse by the oncoming feel or characteristics of the Reiatsu, as opposed to Reiryoku (which can also be used to tell who is who, just it is easier to tell with Reiatsu).

OT: For the purpose of multiverse fights, they have to be the same. However, this does not mean that chakra doubles as Reiatsu or Reiatsu doubles as Ki, since their purposes and subsequent or inherent abilities that are granted are different. And just because they are the same for the purposes of the fight, this does not, under any circumstances, mean that one character is able to beat the other. Would Naruto be able to defeat someone like Aizen or Goku? Possibly, but that is not because Naruto's chakra is the equivalent of Ki for the sake of the fight. Fights are decided based on the strength of each combatant, not because their energy is being made equivalent to each other.
 

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Their purpose in their respective manga's is the same. And much like most shonen, the main has ridiculous amounts of it.
 
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