Do you really think Naruto has surpassed Jman... The 4th Hokage.... Kakashi...???

[Hiruzen Sarutobi]

He certainly has surpassed by far Jirayia in going into Sage Mode.

As said above, he still lacks many techniques like sealing or forbidden techniques that only come with time and experience.

Though it seems that with his trip to Myobokuzan, Naruto has gained many things that we still haven't witnessed such as a great improvement in taijutsu, the full extent of his Sage Mode, the technique that he used to cut those mountains (which I believe was his wind techniques that got amplified by Sage Mode: instead of cutting the water fall as he did in his tarining with Yamato he can cut through rock). But most of all, it seems he has become more mature since before he made his decisions based on his emotions. It seemed that he was mad against Pain, but he kept his cool and didn't rush at him mindlessly.

About the fourth Hokage... he still has a long road until he gets there. But Kishi will eventuall make him surpass every single shinobi.

 

[KASTAWAY]

hello platinum69, i have deep respect for your option but naruto's potential is greater than J-Man, the 4th, and Kakashi.

1.(To be beyond the limit, powers, or capacity of; transcend: misery that surpasses comprehension.) HE HAS DONE THIS
FACT- HIS CHAKAR IS GREATER THAN KAKASHI, THE 4TH, J-MAN AND ESPECIALLY KAKASHI (WITHOUT THE 9TAILS DEMON)
FACT- NARUTO HAS BETTER CONTROL OVER NATURAL ENERGY AND DRAWS IN MORE POWER THAN J-MAN WITH NO SIGNS OF TRANSFORMATION (OLD TOAD)
FACT- IS NOT BOUND BY THE RULES AND LAWS OF THE OLD NINJA WORLD (HE CAN MAKE A WAY WHEN OTHERS THOUGHT IS WAS IMPOSSIBLE)
FACT- NARUTO CAN TAKE MORE PSYCHICAL DAMAGE, HE HEALS FASTER THAN J-MAN, THE 4TH, AND KAKASHI
FACT- HIS HIGH CHAKAR GIVES HIM THE ABILITY TO CREATE ALL S RANK JUTSU
FACT- KAKASHI SAID NARUTO HAS SURPASSED THE FORMER GENERATION.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELING HE HAS NOT surpassed J-MAN THE 4TH AND KAKASHI AS AN ADULT IN TERMS OF JUTSU, AND MISSIONS ACCOMPLISHED AND BATTLE EXPERIENCE AND MATURITY BUT NARUTO IS YOUNG AND HIS JOURNEY HAS JUST STARTED. HIS POTENTIAL IS FAR GREATER THAN ANY PERSON LIVING.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE WILL ADD MORE

 

[roflcopter]

Where the hell have you been guys when i was telling that Naruto didnt surpass Jman kakashi and 4th and eveyone was like " OMG ULOL NARUTO SOCKS URE NOT RITE!

 

[<3 Pesh <3]

Where the hell have you been guys when i was telling that Naruto didnt surpass Jman kakashi and 4th and eveyone was like " OMG ULOL NARUTO SOCKS URE NOT RITE!

huh?

 

[naruto the great sage]

So if Naruto has surpassed Jman then he should have all these jutsu...

Other wise he hasnt surpassed s.h.i.t

* Kuchiyose no Jutsu (Summoning Technique)
* Gogyo Kaiin (Five Elements Unseal)
* Kuchiyose: Yatai Kuzushi no Jutsu (Summoning: Food Cart Destroyer Technique)
* Kuchiyose: Gamaguchi Shibari (Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind)
* Fuka Hoin (Fire Sealing Method)
* Rasengan (Spiraling Sphere)
* Doton: Yomi Numa (Earth Release: Swamp of the Underworld)
* Hari Jizo (Needle Guardian)
* Katon: Gamayu Endan (Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet)
* Kaeru Kaeru no Jutsu (Frog Conversion Technique)
* Gama Daira Kage Ayatsuri no Jutsu (Toad-Silhouette Control Technique)
* Katon: Endan (Fire Release: Fireball)
* Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
* Gamayudan (Toad Oil Projectile)
* Ranji Shigumi no Jutsu (Wild Lion's Made Technique)
* Chou Odama Rasengan (Super Great Ball Rasengan)
* Goemon (Deep Fryer)
* Kebari Senbon (Hair Needle Barrage)
* Unnamed barrier jutsu
* Katon: Dai Endan (Fire Release: Giant Fire Blast)


So has Naruto Surpassed his Dad then he should have all these jutsu...

Other wise he hasnt surpassed s.h.i.t

* Flying Thunder God
* Death God Seal
* Rasengan Yes


So has Naruto Surpassed Kakashi....

Other wise he....

* Sennen Goroshi (One Thousand Years of Death)
* Magen: Narakumi no Jutsu
* Doton: Shinju Zanshu no Jutsu
* Sharingan (Copy Wheel Eye)
* Mizu Bunshin no Jutsu (Water Doppelganger Technique)
* Suiton: Suiryudan no Jutsu
* Suiton: Daibakufu no Jutsu
* Kuchiyose: Doton: Tsuiga no Jutsu
* Raikiri (Lightning Blade)
* Taju Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
* Fuja Hoin (Evil Sealing Method)
* Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
* Kuchiyose no Jutsu (Summoning Technique)
* Suiton: Suikodan no Jutsu
* Suiton: Suijinheki
* Mangekyo Sharingan
* Rasengan
* Chidori (1000 birds)



I know what your going to say... he has only surpassed in Chakar level...

Wind Rasengan is a forbidden jutsu and he cant use it when he wants to... well people think in Sage mode it has been perfected... By the jutsu he was cutting the mountain by.... I hope he has perfected it... But its not the jutsu he was using to cut the mountain...

When will naruto create his own Jutsu????


Please Im not dissing Naruto... I love Naruto... Im here as much as I can.... But I dont understand... how can he Surpass kakashi... The 4th... and Jman... the best of the best???



Meaning of Surpassed

Verb
1. to be greater in extent than or superior in achievement to (something or someone)
2. surpass oneself or expectations to go beyond the limit of what was expected


1. To be beyond the limit, powers, or capacity of; transcend: misery that surpasses comprehension.
2. To be or go beyond, as in degree or quality; exceed.



The only thing he has surpassed is Adding wind element chakar to Rasengan... But Im sure kakashi Jman and the 4th could also do it if they used a Shadow Clone....

Sage mode... well OK one thing!!!


Please let me know wht you think??? Im sorry if this is a Copy thread...

dude, you dont have to know all their jutsus to be stronger than them you just have to eather beat them in a fight or prove yourself to them

 

[platinum69]

hello platinum69, i have deep respect for your option but naruto's potential is greater than J-Man, the 4th, and Kakashi.

1.(To be beyond the limit, powers, or capacity of; transcend: misery that surpasses comprehension.) HE HAS DONE THIS
FACT- HIS CHAKAR IS GREATER THAN KAKASHI, THE 4TH, J-MAN AND ESPECIALLY KAKASHI (WITHOUT THE 9TAILS DEMON)
FACT- NARUTO HAS BETTER CONTROL OVER NATURAL ENERGY AND DRAWS IN MORE POWER THAN J-MAN WITH NO SIGNS OF TRANSFORMATION (OLD TOAD)
FACT- IS NOT BOUND BY THE RULES AND LAWS OF THE OLD NINJA WORLD (HE CAN MAKE A WAY WHEN OTHERS THOUGHT IS WAS IMPOSSIBLE)
FACT- NARUTO CAN TAKE MORE PSYCHICAL DAMAGE, HE HEALS FASTER THAN J-MAN, THE 4TH, AND KAKASHI
FACT- HIS HIGH CHAKAR GIVES HIM THE ABILITY TO CREATE ALL S RANK JUTSU
FACT- KAKASHI SAID NARUTO HAS SURPASSED THE FORMER GENERATION.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELING HE HAS NOT surpassed J-MAN THE 4TH AND KAKASHI AS AN ADULT IN TERMS OF JUTSU, AND MISSIONS ACCOMPLISHED AND BATTLE EXPERIENCE AND MATURITY BUT NARUTO IS YOUNG AND HIS JOURNEY HAS JUST STARTED. HIS POTENTIAL IS FAR GREATER THAN ANY PERSON LIVING.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE WILL ADD MORE

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Cheers for your post bro!!! AWESOME FEED BACK... once again I was having a Relapse... but this knock me back on the right path!!

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

He certainly has surpassed by far Jirayia in going into Sage Mode.

As said above, he still lacks many techniques like sealing or forbidden techniques that only come with time and experience.

Though it seems that with his trip to Myobokuzan, Naruto has gained many things that we still haven't witnessed such as a great improvement in taijutsu, the full extent of his Sage Mode, the technique that he used to cut those mountains (which I believe was his wind techniques that got amplified by Sage Mode: instead of cutting the water fall as he did in his tarining with Yamato he can cut through rock). But most of all, it seems he has become more mature since before he made his decisions based on his emotions. It seemed that he was mad against Pain, but he kept his cool and didn't rush at him mindlessly.

About the fourth Hokage... he still has a long road until he gets there. But Kishi will eventuall make him surpass every single shinobi.

Once again, you've taken the words out of my mouth!

Hiruzen, I couldn't agree more with u!!!

 

[platinum69]

HAHAHAAA!!! YES have you read Manga 431... Looks like I might be wrong!!!

I have never felt so ggod in being proven wrong... I love it!!!!

NARUTO I worshippy U!!!! :naruto:forever!!!

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

HAHAHAAA!!! YES have you read Manga 431... Looks like I might be wrong!!!

I have never felt so ggod in being proven wrong... I love it!!!!

NARUTO I worshippy U!!!! :naruto:forever!!!

lol

 

[Renegade87]

this might be a litlle unfair cuz this thread was made b4 the awesome chapter we know as 431,
but giving the fact naruto is killing pein without breaking a sweat, saying he surpassed jman is a pretty safe assumption.
as for the fourth, well he did take rasengan to a level to where even the fourth couldn't take it.
he has way more chakra and is probably better at sage mode, dont know this for sure, cuz we never seen the fourth in sage mode, but the toad said he surpassed both of them when he arrived.
so to answer your question...HELL YEAH!!!
NARUTO KICKS BUT AND THAT'S IT!!!
I changed ma avatar and sig becuz of it.

and as for not knowing that many techniques, it doesnt matter how many you know, it's how you use them.
its like zetsu said in the sasuke - itachi fight.
a pro with a stone can still defeat a novice whit a knife, it's how you use the weapons at your disposal that matters, not how many you have.

 

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

The Fourth died before he was able to add his own nature manipulation to it.

So, you can't say Naruto surpassed the Fourth because his Rasengan is better. Minato never had a chance to complete it, Naruto did.

 

[animationmaximum]

well naruto will surpass them but we do not know whether he is useful without his sage mode

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

The Fourth died before he was able to add his own nature manipulation to it.

So, you can't say Naruto surpassed the Fourth because his Rasengan is better. Minato never had a chance to complete it, Naruto did.

true, and we also have to keep in mind that creating a jutsu is way harder than learning it, Minato created the ultimate shape manipulation technic... That something naruto has not surpass yet! lol

 

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

true, and we also have to keep in mind that creating a jutsu is way harder than learning it, Minato created the ultimate shape manipulation technic... That something naruto has not surpass yet! lol

Lol, we agree again.

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

Lol, we agree again.

yet once again! lol

 

[Hiruzen Sarutobi]

Jiraiya? No.
Fourth? No.
Kakashi? Yes.

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

Jiraiya? No.
Fourth? No.
Kakashi? Yes.

J-man:?? unsure, we'll see has the fight goes on...

 

[Hiruzen Sarutobi]

J-man:?? unsure, we'll see has the fight goes on...

Remember that Jiraiya still had much more experience than Naruto, he knew a lot of sealing techniques, sage techniques etc... Don't forget that Naruto has katsuyu telling him what to do against each body. When Jiraiya first fought Pain, he wasn't even in Sage Mode yet, he had to make that barrier (which I doubt Naruto can), and fought Pain with absolutely no info on him.

Naruto's close. He just needs experience and some techniques like Jiraiya's.

 

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

Remember that Jiraiya still had much more experience than Naruto, he knew a lot of sealing techniques, sage techniques etc... Don't forget that Naruto has katsuyu telling him what to do against each body. When Jiraiya first fought Pain, he wasn't even in Sage Mode yet, he had to make that barrier (which I doubt Naruto can), and fought Pain with absolutely no info on him.

Naruto's close. He just needs experience and some techniques like Jiraiya's.

Well said, Hiruzen.

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

Remember that Jiraiya still had much more experience than Naruto, he knew a lot of sealing techniques, sage techniques etc... Don't forget that Naruto has katsuyu telling him what to do against each body. When Jiraiya first fought Pain, he wasn't even in Sage Mode yet, he had to make that barrier (which I doubt Naruto can), and fought Pain with absolutely no info on him.

Naruto's close. He just needs experience and some techniques like Jiraiya's.

Approve, but I still think that we better wait before making any rank tread...