[Discussion] Do you now consider luffy to be as strong as doflamingo?

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G4 Luffy is temporarily stronger then Doffy, but Luffy would still lose since G4's time limit is not sufficient enough for Luffy to take out Doffy. In general though, Doffy is still >>Luffy.
 

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G4 Luffy is temporarily stronger then Doffy, but Luffy would still lose since G4's time limit is not sufficient enough for Luffy to take out Doffy. In general though, Doffy is still >>Luffy.
I think the gap is smaller than what you make it seem, but i generally agree with this post
 

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That almost cost him his life, so no. That's all the cards he's got
Im pretty sure he didnt take them all out we havnt even seen g3 leg techs since time skip and seeing as he took another out to finish doflamingo at the end pretty much confirmation imo
 

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If he can sustain his gear 4 , yes he can beat doffy. But he cannot sustain his gear 4, the moment he learns to do it, he is stronger than doffy.
 

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Luffy is stronger than Doffy in g4 by a lot, the problem is his time limit. People say Doffy was injured by gamma knife but he healed himself not fully but still healed. Luffy was taking a beating from Bellamy for a decent period of time and didn't get time to heal, but no one brings that up.

Honestly a fight between healthy Luffy and healthy Doffy can go either way, it all depends on if Luffy can finish him in his g4 time limit. If he uses king kong gun, or any other g4 + g3 attacks he might be able to win.
 
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G4 gives him the advantage but you gotta also realise that a 20minute G4 onslaught could not down a post Gamma knife Doffy, so all in all Doffy is likely to win in a secluded 1v1 battle(the heck am i saying its likely, its really guaranteed). Two or Three Arcs/battles who knows Luffy should have boosted his base and so everything else will be too and hopefully his haki too with more CoA and more CoC integration into his attacks.
 

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Nope. Even with Doflamingo reduced to almost zero health and then beating on him for 20 mins, Luffy needed dozens of people to protect him for ten minutes. Remove everyone else from Doflamingo vs Luffy, and Luffy would have been killed.
 

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Nope. Even with Doflamingo reduced to almost zero health and then beating on him for 20 mins, Luffy needed dozens of people to protect him for ten minutes. Remove everyone else from Doflamingo vs Luffy, and Luffy would have been killed.
His health definitely wasn't close to Zero. Hell if you were to skip the chapter in which he got hit by GK you wouldn't even notice anything wrong with him.

The guy got up from GK almost just about as quick as he got hit by it, there's no way you can prove he was close to zero health. Sounds like your just not trying to give even a little credit to G4.
 

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His health definitely wasn't close to Zero. Hell if you were to skip the chapter in which he got hit by GK you wouldn't even notice anything wrong with him.

The guy got up from GK almost just about as quick as he got hit by it, there's no way you can prove he was close to zero health. Sounds like your just not trying to give even a little credit to G4.
He was close to death. Death automatically means zero health.
 

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Luffy is stronger than Doffy in g4 by a lot, the problem is his time limit. People say Doffy was injured by gamma knife but he healed himself not fully but still healed. Luffy was taking a beating from Bellamy for a decent period of time and didn't get time to heal, but no one brings that up.

Honestly a fight between healthy Luffy and healthy Doffy can go either way, it all depends on if Luffy can finish him in his g4 time limit. If he uses king kong gun, or any other g4 + g3 attacks he might be able to win.
A fight between a healthy Luffy and Doffy can not go either way, not as of now at least. Are you comparing the damage Bellamy did to the damage Law did? They're not even close to equal. Doffy didn't really "heal" his gamma knife injury he used his string to stop the destruction of his organs all it really did was stop further damage it didn't reduce or undo any damage. Luffy started G4 with a weakened Doffy and beat him non stop for a while yet Doffy got back up. A healthy Doffy would have survived Luffy's G4 onslaught even easier sadly. From everything shown already Luffy absolutely CAN NOT finish Doffy with G4 yet.
 

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How was he close to death? He may have been before he stitched his organs together but definitely not after. The guy stitched his organs together got up like nothing happened and moved like nothing happened.
Getting your organs torn apart will leave you near death, crude rudimentary stitching or not. Doflamingo didn't get any closer to 100%, he simply has amazing stamina.
 

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Getting your organs torn apart will leave you near death, crude rudimentary stitching or not. Doflamingo didn't get any closer to 100%, he simply has amazing stamina.
If he was near death he would have been dead with one punch to his organs. And one does not just get up from getting your organs shredded like that, so I don't think its right to compare what would happen in real life if your organs were torn to a manga where a man can survive getting half his face blown off.
 

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If he was near death he would have been dead with one punch to his organs. And one does not just get up from getting your organs shredded like that, so I don't think its right to compare what would happen in real life if your organs were torn to a manga where a man can survive getting half his face blown off.
Not really. He's close to zero, but not that close. You don't understand the extent of GK's hax.
 

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Since your the doctor here, how close was he to death in percentages? And how did you come to this estimate?
Chill with the patronizing bullshit. It's not warranted in this conversation.

I'd say GK did about 45% damage, and the G4 damage did another 45. Then the last King Kong gun did enough to knock him out, but not reduce him to 0.
 

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Nope Luffy is still not there yet. Took Luffy/Law/Gatz and the others to barely beat Doflamingo.

Doflamingo made attacks like Red Hawk seem like absolutely nothing. So much so that some people here forget he took attacks like those when they constantly try and bring up Fodder Bellamy hampering Luffy....only a testament to how much of a tank Doflamingo is.
 
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