Do You Believe Beatings Should be Used to Discipline?

[Multiply]

Nope.

It never works; when it appears to work, all it does is cause your child to suppress emotions causing a bunch of psychological problems and when it doesn't... count yourself lucky that they're releasing the resulting anger instead of bottling it up. Studies prove that it doesn't work, and from knowing someone who was exposed to that belief of punishment from his father, it doesn't work.

Luckily, his mother was a good parent and never need lay a finger. Through that, a close bond developed between them with mutual respect. And by choosing his mother's way, he grew up to be a good (sane) person. His relationship with his father... well, let's not go there.

The logic is strong with you. Judge all cases based on the findings of one case. Do you not know that all humans are individuals? We all feel differently about things. We all react to things differently.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

I really think it depends on the kids comprehension and after a certain age it shouldn't be used.

 

[King Kendrick]

Nope.

It never works; when it appears to work, all it does is cause your child to suppress emotions causing a bunch of psychological problems and when it doesn't... count yourself lucky that they're releasing the resulting anger instead of bottling it up. Studies prove that it doesn't work, and from knowing someone who was exposed to that belief of punishment from his father, it doesn't work.

Luckily, his mother was a good parent and never need lay a finger. Through that, a close bond developed between them with mutual respect. And by choosing his mother's way, he grew up to be a good (sane) person. His relationship with his father... well, let's not go there.

Never happened to me . Can i see that study by any chance ?

 

[GhostProject]

The logic is strong with you. Judge all cases based on the findings of one case. Do you not know that all humans are individuals? We all feel differently about things. We all react to things differently.

So you're arguing we should use a method that is inconsistent from child to child and can result in permanent emotional scarring?

 

[Multiply]

So you're arguing we should use a method that is inconsistent from person to person and can result in permanent emotional scarring?

You're being too extreme. Light slaps on the back of the head or simple whips with a belt never emotionally scarred anyone. It's when you go to far that it begins to take its toll. My parents seemingly knew that because I'm not (excuse the pun)butthurt about them beating me.

 

[BlacLord™]

The logic is strong with you. Judge all cases based on the findings of one case. Do you not know that all humans are individuals? We all feel differently about things. We all react to things differently.

But apparently not so with you.

@Bold I never said that all cases are the same, hence why I used the broad term of "psychological problems". What? You think they're all bunched into one? Or that only one example exists?

Christ.

 

[Multiply]

But apparently not so with you.

@Bold I never said that all cases are the same, hence why I used the broad term of "psychological problems". What? You think they're all bunched into one? Or that only one example exists?

Christ.

I don't even know why I'm debating this with you when you defeated your own argument with your own words.

It never works; when it appears to work, all it does is cause your child to suppress emotions causing a bunch of psychological problems and when it doesn't... count yourself lucky that they're releasing the resulting anger instead of bottling it up.

You go from, "It never works" to "If it does work, well, you're lucky." How can there be a study that shows it doesn't work when you just agreed that all people are different, and especially kids. They can't validate the study because kids will react differently.

 

[GhostProject]

You're being too extreme. Light slaps on the back of the head or simple whips with a belt never emotionally scarred anyone. It's when you go to far that it begins to take its toll. My parents seemingly knew that because I'm not (excuse the pun)butthurt about them beating me.

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How is a child going to draw the difference? How are many of the adults out there going to draw the difference? Hitting a child is extreme by nature and an unnecessary exertion of undue power. It leads to aggressive mentalities, and there's plenty of available information about its inconsistencies and ineffectiveness.

 

[ComplexCity]

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How is a child going to draw the difference? How are many of the adults out there going to draw the difference? Hitting a child is extreme by nature and an unnecessary exertion of undue power. It leads to aggressive mentalities, and there's plenty of available information about its inconsistencies and ineffectiveness.

I like how scientist do studies and ppl ride that like it is actual fact, not everyone is the same as stated above so I don't even know how this can pass as something to use as well, validation :|

 

[JStar King]

If the only way you know how to get through to your child is by physically hurting them, then, you're a kinda shitty parent and/or person.

Okay. If you had a kid and he stole money from you, lets say you ground him and told him to stop. He keeps stealing and stealing and stealing, and you keep grounding him. What do you do?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Okay. If you had a kid and he stole money from you, lets say you ground him and told him to stop. He keeps stealing and stealing and stealing, and you keep grounding him. What do you do?

Negative punishment, rather than positive.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I like how scientist do studies and ppl ride that like it is actual fact, not everyone is the same as stated above so I don't even know how this can pass as something to use as well, validation :|

It depends on what happens more. Yes, not everyone is the same, but if it's a legit, recognized study, and it shows that the majority of cases result in physical punishment being more harmful than good, then it's exactly that: More harmful than good. Studies usually consist of more than one trial by the way, it's not just done once.

 

[JStar King]

Negative punishment, rather than positive.

What do you mean negative punishment?

 

[Multiply]

Negative punishment, rather than positive.

And if the child doesn't care that you've taken things from him? The kid is still talking back to you and yelling and hollering however he or she wants to talk to you. The kid continues to steal and so now what do you do? Lol... This is going to continue until you say, "I'm going to beat his ass", because more often than not, an ass whooping deters stealing.

 

[Punk Hazard]

What do you mean negative punishment?

Positive punishment would be administering something to the child. In this case, giving the child spankings.

Negative punishments are taking away things the child values, which can be items or privileges.

 

[Geeserock]

I have seen kids started crying for something and didn't stop putting their parents in embarrass situation inside a mall or some other place. Those kind of annoying kids sometime make me feel wish I could beat them.

 

[JStar King]

Positive punishment would be administering something to the child. In this case, giving the child spankings.

Negative punishments are taking away things the child values, which can be items or privileges.

I agree somewhat, but this is why little kids are shooting up schools and joining gangs. But that's none of my business.

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[Punk Hazard]

And if the child doesn't care that you've taken things from him? The kid is still talking back to you and yelling and hollering however he or she wants to talk to you. The kid continues to steal and so now what do you do? Lol... This is going to continue until you say, "I'm going to beat his ass", because more often than not, an ass whooping deters stealing.

Okay lemme ask you this. You beat your kid. And he still continues stealing. What then? Cuz ¨beating his ass" ain't the 100% solution. You beat your kid, and instead of learning ¨Stealing is wrong because of this¨, your kid just goes and do it elsewhere where he can't beat. Or, he just starts looking for sneakier ways. Cuz if he doesn't give a shit about losing stuff to the point where he's still stealing, he probably ain't gonna stop with an ass beating but just look for ways to not get caught. What happens when the kid grows up with the mentality ¨I can do wrong things, I just don't need to get caught?¨ because their parents just smacked them instead of you know, not being shitty parents and explaining why it's wrong and you know, not being shitty parents and teaching their kids empathy? What happens if the kid grows to resent his parents for hitting them? What happens if it affects the child's mental/psychological health?

But nah, you go ahead and beat your kids ass cuz that's the magic solution that works 100% of the time.

I agree somewhat, but this is why little kids are shooting up school and joining gangs. But that's none of my business.

That's probably the most ignorant thing I've heard all day. Shooting up schools is more than likely than not to be caused by mental illnesses. No one ever shot up a school because their parent didn't hit them Lol

Joining gangs is a completely different story with deeper psychological reasons.

 

[JStar King]

That's your opinion. But I'm telling you now. My kids ain't never gonna steal from me ever again if they do.

I got another scenario:

You're in the grocery store with your son. He begs for you to buy him what he wants, but you say no. Next thing, he goes psycho and throws a fit, running around and destroying sh*t. You give him a warning and he keeps kicking and screaming, embarrassing you in front of everyone. Then your son cusses you out. You give him another warning. What do ya do?

 

[Multiply]

Okay lemme ask you this. You beat your kid. And he still continues stealing. What then? Cuz ¨beating his ass" ain't the 100% solution. You beat your kid, and instead of learning ¨Stealing is wrong because of this¨, your kid just goes and do it elsewhere where he can't beat. Or, he just starts looking for sneakier ways. Cuz if he doesn't give a shit about losing stuff to the point where he's still stealing, he probably ain't gonna stop with an ass beating but just look for ways to not get caught. What happens when the kid grows up with the mentality ¨I can do wrong things, I just don't need to get caught?¨ because their parents just smacked them instead of you know, not being shitty parents and explaining why it's wrong and you know, not being shitty parents and teaching their kids empathy? What happens if the kid grows to resent his parents for hitting them? What happens if it affects the child's mental/psychological health?

Apparently you don't know the right way to beat a kid. You're a shitty parent if you just talk to your kid and he completely disregards you and walks all over you in your own home. You assert your dominance. Whether that be by raising your voice or giving him/her 5 slaps on the ass.

No one said beating your child is the ultimate solution, it's simply something that has been used for decades that works. You don't just tell your child to do something, they don't do it, you take away their game, and they get away with not doing it. They know you'll give it back sooner or later, and ultimately if you don't they''ll find a way to do it discreetly. The same supposed outcome of a beating. Say that example was to wash the dishes. All your kid learns from that example is that if they say no to washing the dishes, all you'll do is take something and send them to their room. In the end they got what they wanted because they didn't want to wash dishes.

That was usually my mentality when my parents took something from me for acting out. If I said no to something and all they did was take something from me, I would just go to my room and read.

Your same argument can be used against you.