Do people still actually think...?

Do you think Hiruzen is on Hashirama's level?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 27.0%
  • Nah

    Votes: 27 73.0%

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itachi4real

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If you go off portrayals you're doing exactly what he does :rolleyes:

Uhuh.... Sure sure pal, whatever you say..Lol...

The Hell is going on?
I dont know what the hell is going on?
 

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You cant seriously believe they were only at 20%. They completely changed the landscape of the battlefield and they were only at 20%?lol

Lel.. At most 20-30%! and thats a given and lel all hashi did was use a petty mukoton.

Part 1 itachi (w/ no susanoo) could beat oro, hashirama, and tobirama. Please explain that one.lol
Part 1 jiraiya w/o sage mode who almost lost to armless oro, could solo oro, hashirama, and tobirama.

I really feel like you are reaching.smh

Lol what? Why wouldnt he have sussano? He already had amaterasu and tysukuyomi. Anyways edo hashi and edo tobirama get dealt with amaterasu right off the bat, as for orochimaru a simple tysukuyomi does the job.

part 1 jiraiya with no sage mode? Where are you getting your info from? Just because he never showed it in part 1 doesnt mean he didnt have it, use common sense please.

And im preferably talking about facing against edo hashi and edo tobirama.. as the way they were in part 1.
 

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If you go off portrayals you're doing exactly what he does :rolleyes:
I didn't just talk about portrayal and it was only in one sentence in my long paragraph U_U I mentioned feats later :rolleyes:
 

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I know how to ride and bike it doesn't mean I can.
Knowing how to do something =\= actually doing something
 

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I know how to ride and bike it doesn't mean I can.
Knowing how to do something =\= actually doing something

What the literal shit does this have to do with anything?
 

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I didn't just talk about portrayal and it was only in one sentence in my long paragraph U_U I mentioned feats later :rolleyes:

I only read the first sentence, the rest I skimmed and sighed when I saw something about how you gave up hope on Hiruzen.
 

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You cant seriously believe they were only at 20%. They completely changed the landscape of the battlefield and they were only at 20%?lol




Part 1 itachi (w/ no susanoo) could beat oro, hashirama, and tobirama. Please explain that one.lol
Part 1 jiraiya w/o sage mode who almost lost to armless oro, could solo oro, hashirama, and tobirama.


I really feel like you are reaching.smh




I was referring to the fight in the anime, If we go by the manga then you are right. My mistake. But hiruzen did outmatch orohimaru in bukijutsu.

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Lel.. At most 20-30%! and thats a given and lel all hashi did was use a petty mukoton.

That so called petty mokuton was greater than almost anything that obito and yamato ever showed in regards to mokuton. So if the was 20% of his power yamato must only has 5% of it.lol

And buy you saying that hashirama and tobirama were only 20% because they didn't use other jutsu allows me to say hiruzen was 20% because he didn't use the jutsu we have seen him use in part 2.



Lol what? Why wouldnt he have sussano? He already had amaterasu and tysukuyomi. Anyways edo hashi and edo tobirama get dealt with amaterasu right off the bat, as for orochimaru a simple tysukuyomi does the job.

part 1 jiraiya with no sage mode? Where are you getting your info from? Just because he never showed it in part 1 doesnt mean he didnt have it, use common sense please.

And im preferably talking about facing against edo hashi and edo tobirama.. as the way they were in part 1.

I understanding what you are saying but I stated who from part 1 could have achieved it. Itachi never displayed susanoo in part one so we cant give that to him. And Jiraiya never used sage mode in part 1 or summoned ma or pa, so at that time we cant assume he had those either.

You had no idea itachi could use susanoo in part 1. Or that jiraiya could use sage mode.
 

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I only read the first sentence, the rest I skimmed and sighed when I saw something about how you gave up hope on Hiruzen.
Lol didn't know you were a Hiruzen fan, you troll :rolleyes: Of course i gave up Lmao. Hiruzen had a last chance to convince me when he was brought back as an Edo and it was an utter failure(yes was, because he isn't gonna do anythin when the war is almost over)
 

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That so called petty mokuton was greater than almost anything that obito and yamato ever showed in regards to mokuton. So if the was 20% of his power yamato must only has 5% of it.lol

And buy you saying that hashirama and tobirama were only 20% because they didn't use other jutsu allows me to say hiruzen was 20% because he didn't use the jutsu we have seen him use in part 2.





I understanding what you are saying but I stated who from part 1 could have achieved it. Itachi never displayed susanoo in part one so we cant give that to him. And Jiraiya never used sage mode in part 1 or summoned ma or pa, so at that time we cant assume he had those either.

You had no idea itachi could use susanoo in part 1. Or that jiraiya could use sage mode.

aww man bro you dont know how bad i can shit on you right now but i dont wanna get turnt up so ill just leave it here!
 

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aww man bro you dont know how bad i can shit on you right now but i dont wanna get turnt up so ill just leave it here!

Please do. Because I don't understand how you are justifying what you are saying.

So please explain. But if you can be civil. Im not a fan of people who start bashing other for no reason.
 

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I understanding what you are saying but I stated who from part 1 could have achieved it. Itachi never displayed susanoo in part one so we cant give that to him. And Jiraiya never used sage mode in part 1 or summoned ma or pa, so at that time we cant assume he had those either.

You had no idea itachi could use susanoo in part 1. Or that jiraiya could use sage mode.
I don't know about Itachi, but Jiraya surely had Sage Mode since Minato(who died 16 or 17years ago) remembered Jiraya as a sage mode user when he saw Naruto
 

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Please do. Because I don't understand how you are justifying what you are saying.

So please explain. But if you can be civil. Im not a fan of people who start bashing other for no reason.

lel bro like I said you aint worthy my time!!!!! i dont debate scrubs! lel! saying theres no proof part 1 jiraiya had no sage mode! rofl!

sigh I dont have time for scrubs but i guess ill school your ass real quick!

anyways minato clearly saids '' he can use the same senjutsu as jiraiya sensei. which automatically makes what you said bullshit and invalid and makes me right.

theres the scan ^^

the fact that minato said that clearly means jiraiya had sage mode already when during minato's era, which means he had it in part 1 as well! smh do I really have to explain this?!?!?

as for itachi its obvious as fuk he had sussano in part 1, kishi was simply saving it for part 2 fight against sasuke!

itachi clearly saids he awoke sussano along with tysukuyomi and amaterasu and that fateful day! hence meaning he had sussano in part 1 as well!



SMH my damn head!!!!!! saying itachi didnt have sussano bak in part 1 just because he aint show it! smack yourself, kakashi knew rasegan but didnt show it until part 2!

this is why i dont fuk with scrubs! log off bro! you aint ready!
 

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I don't know about Itachi, but Jiraya surely had Sage Mode since Minato(who died 16 or 17years ago) remembered Jiraya as a sage mode user when he saw Naruto

Yea itachi had susanoo since part one cus when he beat those three uchihas asses he had MS and that was before oro killed hiruzen
 

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I don't know about Itachi, but Jiraya surely had Sage Mode since Minato(who died 16 or 17years ago) remembered Jiraya as a sage mode user when he saw Naruto

I don't disagree with that. I was just stating that since jiraiya never used it during part 1, he could say that he could use it, because during part 1 we didn't even know sage mode existed.

That's like saying hiruzen could have easily made clones and trapped oro and edos in red sun barrier. But at the time we had no clue that that technique even existed.
 

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What has this thread turned into? XD
 

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I don't disagree with that. I was just stating that since jiraiya never used it during part 1, he could say that he could use it, because during part 1 we didn't even know sage mode existed.

That's like saying hiruzen could have easily made clones and trapped oro and edos in red sun barrier. But at the time we had no clue that that technique even existed.
Ok i understand, but your example is kinda bad since Hiruzen doesn't possess the chakra reserve to be able to maintain the barrier on his own
 
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