[Discussion] do people honestly think zoro is stronger than law ?

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Law would win yes.

But I don't agree with the pica part, look closely OP, Picas strap is much more stretched out indicating his muscles have gotten larger.
Doesn't really look that stretched out at all. Not to mention one picture is him standing still, and the other is him charging to strike an opponent. Meaning, his muscles were flexed, which would push the straps, increased size from Haki or not.
 

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read what i said and look at pics vergo body does physical changes
funny.... how did you know it has any thing to do with haki . normal people would assume vergo buffed his muscles size (just like how zoro did when he used ichi\ni gorilla) then used haki because the defination and the concept of haki does not have any thing to do with physical attirbutes and many many others used haki as well and not a single one of them had any changes in his body but no because it`s vergo it must be a sign of his incredible haki superiority .

I am done here .
 
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Doesn't really look that stretched out at all. Not to mention one picture is him standing still, and the other is him charging to strike an opponent. Meaning, his muscles were flexed, which would push the straps, increased size from Haki or not.
Good point. I wonder how Haki can just buff a guys size like that? Maybe its because its armor, I probably just answered my own question but it doesn't seem to make Pica look visibly more buff.
 

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Sorry man even by your standards zoro is stronger. And you forget to mention that law has an OP devil fruit whereas zoro doesn't have a devil fruit at all. So that has to count for something.
So in that case zoro should be stronger than luffy too. Then zoro should become the captain of the ship.
 

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I highly doubt Zoro can defeat Smoker without getting hit or scratched....I highly doubt Zoro has the ability to fight Doflamingo and hurt him when Luffy wasn't able to scratch him with g2 or g3.....I do believe Zoro had med-high diff against Pica the #3 of the DD family when Law can injure the #1....I do believe Law is on a different level than Zoro.....
 

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funny.... how did you know it has any thing to do with haki . normal people would assume vergo buffed his muscles size (just like how zoro did when he used ichi\ni gorilla) then used haki because the defination and the concept of haki does not have any thing to do with physical attirbutes and many many others used haki as well and not a single one of them had any changes in his body but no because it`s vergo it must be a sign of his incredible haki superiority .

I am done here .
gear 4th ??? or do u not read manga it seems luffy buffed himself up and its a haki based tech so..? also how do u know its not his haki u cant say for sure it has nothing to do with haki (talking bout vergo). in both manga in anime it was when he went fbh his body became like tht

in luffy gear 4th when he used it his body became brollic like with black haki on his arms going to his chest
 

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Good point. I wonder how Haki can just buff a guys size like that? Maybe its because its armor, I probably just answered my own question but it doesn't seem to make Pica look visibly more buff.
to me (not that i am oda lol) pica just has a fbh he doesnt specialize in it he specilizes in his fruit... vergo on other hand specilizes in it.... his haki was so good that it morphed his body.. we see luffy in gear 4th (haki based tech requires haki to use) get his body morphed when using it having black arms and almost full black chest... i dnt think its inflated because of the sheer muscles he has and how they talk about haki being a key componet into the tech and how he needs haki to attain this form.. i could be wrong tho (gear 3rd is just inflation whereas gear 2nd deals with adding blood more blood vessles which in turns gives him more oxygen and with that increases his fighting abilitiy. gear 4th on other hand seems to revolve around haki and that is where we see luffys body transform for first time (in terms of physical difference not just colloring like in gear 2 or inflation in one part of body like in gear 3) with actual muscles similar to vergo and his fbh
 

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gear 4th ??? or do u not read manga it seems luffy buffed himself up and its a haki based tech so..? also how do u know its not his haki u cant say for sure it has nothing to do with haki (talking bout vergo). in both manga in anime it was when he went fbh his body became like tht

in luffy gear 4th when he used it his body became brollic like with black haki on his arms going to his chest
so what ? the reason luffy was buffed up because he inflated the air into his muscles dude ..... do i really need to clarify this obvious thing ?
 

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Actually, Luffy was able to go Gear 4th by just flexing somehow while in Parasite.
dont know\care how he managed to inflate his body with air in the second time but it`s certain that air is the one to buff his body up, the first time luffy used it it was clear that he inflated his arm with air he even called it "muscles ballon" and when he had to increase his muscle size again it was shown clearly that he was blowing in his muscle yet again .
 

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read what i said and look at pics vergo body does physical changes
does physical changes? nothing suggest that haki is the reason his muscles enlarged and the fact that pica going full body haki and his muscles remained the same size should have made it obvious that haki wasnt the reason
 
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Law would win low med difficulty.

Zoro is a close range fighter which means Law is his worst nightmare. Zoro foot speed isn't very impressive. Law can also take his blades once he enters the room. Then there's the punk hazard slice which shits on anything Zoro has to offer.
 

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Well it is not impossible for him to be stronger than Law. Most of the people just blindly believe that Law is stronger just because he was portrayed to be Luffy's rival but now it is clear as day that he's much weaker than Luffy. Zoro has yet to get a serious opponent and show what he's really capable of yet his feats are on Law's level. Zoro spent who two years just to get stronger so I don't see why he can't be stronger than Law. IMO Zoro with his current feats gets defeated by Law. I can see Law winning even if he's weaker than Zoro due to obvious reasons.

Law would win low med difficulty.

Zoro is a close range fighter which means Law is his worst nightmare. Zoro foot speed isn't very impressive. Law can also take his blades once he enters the room. Then there's the punk hazard slice which shits on anything Zoro has to offer.
Zoro isn't just limited to close range and Law is definitely not a bad match for Zoro. Zoro's speed may not be impressive but his reaction speed and reflexes are more than god enough to fight someone like Law. And no Law's feat doesn't shit on Zoro's feat they're nearly on same level with Law's range being a bit more than Zoro. If Law can't take away Smoker's/Fujitora's weapon, I don't see how he can pull this against Zoro as he's much better than Smoker with weapons.
 
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i mean i dnt c it but maybe someone can explain it to me lol


how i c it

speed: goes to law via room teleportation and all of his blocking against ppl.. sorry but zoro failed to catch pica by himself and had to rely on king guy

strength: this obviously goes to zoro he would straight dominiate law in a strength contest

endurance: kind of tough but imma still say despite everything law has gone through this chapter (and continued to get up etc) the feat of taking his own damage and luffys trumps laws efforts. not by much though (got shot like 12 times fought and got beat up by both a almost admiral level fighter and an admiral level fighter, arm clean cutt off etc) but yeah def give this to zoro

reaction speed: imma give this to law for reacting to overheat, as well as being able to save sanji quick thinking etc... laws reaction speed to me is on a whole different level than zoro or anyone... simply on a fact tht unlike zoro who just reacts via blocking.. law lacking the physical strength has to think ahead and prep for different things other then just blocking for example throwing the rocks in place then room, then block or him reacting to gear 2nd luffy in room switching etc i feel like law has better reaction speed by decent margin but zoro is no slouch

haki: i feel zoro has better haki in general i think only because he has the hype of ardament haki specialist... but by feats law should have this because vergo (idc what anyone says theres no way in hell pica has better haki his figfhting style focuses on his devil fruit and not getting hit and hiding in the golem.... vergo specializes in haki and his body got almost 3 times bigger than his regular body when doing fbh whereas picas body stayed the same if u dnt believe me
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ppl who say pica fbh haki is no different from vergos is delusional or a zoro fanboy tbh cuz its clear vergo had better haki.. his style focuses on tanking pica is focused on df and the difference bettween both regular body and fbh is shown clearly

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... like picas is honestly same size as his regular body its covered thts all vergos haki is so thick that it honestly changes his body..

but going back to the haki arguement im also giving this to zoro because the feat of vergo for law he did both haki and mixed it with his devil fruit... so its hard to decipher where his haki range is

but for now in terms of haki zoro>law but df ability mixed with haki law >zoro (lack of df ability lol)

intellegence: obiviously law

honorable mentions: room size is insane also can do invisible rooms, zoro has asura which is def a factor but an unclear one.. gamma knife is one shot and law could def without a doubt shambles zoro (outsmarting similar to what he did to smoker just not as easy) into a gamma knife... radio knife etc... zoro 3 sword style and when he focuses all strength into one style


so yeah can someone explain to me why exactly do ppl think zoro wins? and please give actual arguements ?

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you've just mentioned everything law can do, but we haven't seen anything from Zoro as he hasn't fought anyone seriously. The only thing we've seen him do are the same techniques before the 2 year timeskip but they've only gotten stronger. judging by your DP (Display picture) your a law fan so your probably gonna be biased about this.
 

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I highly doubt Zoro can defeat Smoker without getting hit or scratched....I highly doubt Zoro has the ability to fight Doflamingo and hurt him when Luffy wasn't able to scratch him with g2 or g3.....I do believe Zoro had med-high diff against Pica the #3 of the DD family when Law can injure the #1....I do believe Law is on a different level than Zoro.....
lol??? the fight against pica was low-lowest mid diff. also when was zoro in a situation where he really needed to try? so how do you know that zoro cant hurt the #1 of the DD family? we dont know zoros real level yet he didnt even go out over 40-50%, or show me a panel where he really was in trouble? 60-/70% try someone needs to at least be hurt. show me after timeskip, thanks bye
 
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