[Discussion] do people honestly think zoro is stronger than law ?

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

i mean i dnt c it but maybe someone can explain it to me lol


how i c it

speed: goes to law via room teleportation and all of his blocking against ppl.. sorry but zoro failed to catch pica by himself and had to rely on king guy

strength: this obviously goes to zoro he would straight dominiate law in a strength contest

endurance: kind of tough but imma still say despite everything law has gone through this chapter (and continued to get up etc) the feat of taking his own damage and luffys trumps laws efforts. not by much though (got shot like 12 times fought and got beat up by both a almost admiral level fighter and an admiral level fighter, arm clean cutt off etc) but yeah def give this to zoro

reaction speed: imma give this to law for reacting to overheat, as well as being able to save sanji quick thinking etc... laws reaction speed to me is on a whole different level than zoro or anyone... simply on a fact tht unlike zoro who just reacts via blocking.. law lacking the physical strength has to think ahead and prep for different things other then just blocking for example throwing the rocks in place then room, then block or him reacting to gear 2nd luffy in room switching etc i feel like law has better reaction speed by decent margin but zoro is no slouch

haki: i feel zoro has better haki in general i think only because he has the hype of ardament haki specialist... but by feats law should have this because vergo (idc what anyone says theres no way in hell pica has better haki his figfhting style focuses on his devil fruit and not getting hit and hiding in the golem.... vergo specializes in haki and his body got almost 3 times bigger than his regular body when doing fbh whereas picas body stayed the same if u dnt believe me

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and now look at his body

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ppl who say pica fbh haki is no different from vergos is delusional or a zoro fanboy tbh cuz its clear vergo had better haki.. his style focuses on tanking pica is focused on df and the difference bettween both regular body and fbh is shown clearly

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... like picas is honestly same size as his regular body its covered thts all vergos haki is so thick that it honestly changes his body..

but going back to the haki arguement im also giving this to zoro because the feat of vergo for law he did both haki and mixed it with his devil fruit... so its hard to decipher where his haki range is

but for now in terms of haki zoro>law but df ability mixed with haki law >zoro (lack of df ability lol)

intellegence: obiviously law

honorable mentions: room size is insane also can do invisible rooms, zoro has asura which is def a factor but an unclear one.. gamma knife is one shot and law could def without a doubt shambles zoro (outsmarting similar to what he did to smoker just not as easy) into a gamma knife... radio knife etc... zoro 3 sword style and when he focuses all strength into one style


so yeah can someone explain to me why exactly do ppl think zoro wins? and please give actual arguements ?

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[Arian]

zoro would win, but it wouldnt be as easy as people say....

 

[Touka Kirishima]

Maybe because Zoro still has not fought anyone seriously since the timeskip

 

[Madarauchiwa]

for now law takes this by feats but soon it will be shown how much better zoro is. it stands to reason that before zoro could leave mihawk they had to clash and zoro had to prove to mihawk that he was strong enough and although mihawk probably wasn't going all out zoro probably had a dope fight.

zoro also hasn't been seen going all out yet while law used everything he had and yet zoro still takes him in 3 out of the 5 things you mentioned

 

[solorflare99]

Zoro beating law is understandable, I can see it going either way. What I don't get is when people say that Sanji is Zoro's equal. Those people need to reread the entire chapters from beginning to most recent 3 times in a row.

 

[nandachikara]

i dont think zoro can beat law yet...law is swordsman like zoro,can use haki like zoro....but law has a op devil fruit that could cut a mountain in half,cut full body haki virgo...zoro cant win just yet

 

[straightup]

Sorry man even by your standards zoro is stronger. And you forget to mention that law has an OP devil fruit whereas zoro doesn't have a devil fruit at all. So that has to count for something.

 

[juzumaki]

how do you know vergos haki is stronger than picas as far as ive seen there was no indication of this

 

[Bogard]

Teleportation is another way of long range distance travelling but instantly, giving better environmental mobility, but it doesn't matter much in combat speed. It helps to create some distance or try to catch an opponent off-guard though similar to what Pica was doing to Zoro, but with instincts or observation, his position will be localized. What matters the most is reaction, striking and movement speed. Law may teleport, but he needs to trigger that teleportation mid combat and that solely depends on his reaction speed. If he can't react to an attack in time to trigger the teleportation, then it's useless and it's even worse in Law's case where he needs his fingers to trigger the teleportation, so if his fingers are occupied for some reasons(pressured in combat or blocked like Doflamingo did once), he can't even teleport.

Doflamingo didn't need to move to block shamble Law simply because his striking speed after teleportation wasn't great enough. So it would depend if you think Law's striking speed is greater than Zoro's, and Law by feats never showed a striking speed on Zoro's level. His swordsmanship is weaker too. He is also a physical stronger fighter(he resisted a stronger gravity than the one that puts Law down), and while Law displayed insane endurance during this arc, Zoro's endurance always has been the greatest in the crew too.

Their range is also similar and they accomplished similar mountain level feats except Zoro did it with swordsmanship+brute strength when Law did it with a hax ability ignoring durability, just like both defeated a top executive capable of FBH, except Zoro did it with his superior haki when Law did it with his hax abiliy ignoring durability. Law's main advantage however is his gamma knife that is basically a one shot ability to anyone other than Doflamingo, however he has to manage to land it, something he had to play dead, use Luffy as a distraction to land on Doflamingo(albeit a superior opponent to Zoro), and against a superior swordsman it won't be easy.

Not to mention that despite all this, Zoro still has at least 1trump card in reserve that remains to be seen(Asura) when Law's upper limit is already shown, all that making the possibility of a Zoro being able to beat Law likely, although i give the advantage to Law at the moment until we see more in the future

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Maybe because Zoro still has not fought anyone seriously since the timeskip

how does tht equate to him winning against law?

 

[Im Still Robin]

Law destroys.. he isn't sanji.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

how do you know vergos haki is stronger than picas as far as ive seen there was no indication of this

read what i said and look at pics vergo body does physical changes

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Teleportation is another way of long range distance travelling but instantly, giving better environmental mobility, but it doesn't matter much in combat speed. It helps to create some distance or try to catch an opponent off-guard though similar to what Pica was doing to Zoro, but with instincts or observation, his position will be localized. What matters the most is reaction, striking and movement speed. Law may teleport, but he needs to trigger that teleportation mid combat and that solely depends on his reaction speed. If he can't react to an attack in time to trigger the teleportation, then it's useless and it's even worse in Law's case where he needs his fingers to trigger the teleportation, so if his fingers are occupied for some reasons(pressured in combat or blocked like Doflamingo did once), he can't even teleport.

Doflamingo didn't need to move to block shamble Law simply because his striking speed after teleportation wasn't great enough. So it would depend if you think Law's striking speed is greater than Zoro's, and Law by feats never showed a striking speed on Zoro's level. His swordsmanship is weaker too. He is also a physical stronger fighter(he resisted a stronger gravity than the one that puts Law down), and while Law displayed insane endurance during this arc, Zoro's endurance always has been the greatest in the crew too.

Their range is also similar and they accomplished similar mountain level feats except Zoro did it with swordsmanship+brute strength when Law did it with a hax ability ignoring durability, just like both defeated a top executive capable of FBH, except Zoro did it with his superior haki when Law did it with his hax abiliy ignoring durability. Law's main advantage however is his gamma knife that is basically a one shot ability to anyone other than Doflamingo, however he has to manage to land it, something he had to play dead, use Luffy as a distraction to land on Doflamingo(albeit a superior opponent to Zoro), and against a superior swordsman it won't be easy.

Not to mention that despite all this, Zoro still has at least 1trump card in reserve that remains to be seen(Asura) when Law's upper limit is already shown, all that making the possibility of a Zoro being able to beat Law likely, although i give the advantage to Law at the moment until we see more in the future

i agree with majoirty that u said except the thing about seeing all law has to show hes one of few char that his power depends on how strong his mind is and how he uses his devil fruit....


also like any character if he is overwhelmed he can show different things for exp: the invisble room that neither the slimy guy or doffy relized that was cast or gamma knife radio knife.... i think any char can show different feats given the time.. yes hes been beaten to his limit but that should show only how much the dude can take not how many abilities can be shown (exp luffy vs lucci luffy took beaten whole fight then just came up with gear 2 and 3)... also the amount of stamina law has cant really be measured correctly especially going against someone like zoro pts

cuz zoro hasnt gone all out yet but he hasnt he hasnt fought anyone significant tbh... only pica and thats barely saying anything yes he completly overpowered the guy but at end of day he was barely catching the guy.. due to devil fruit and evasiveness he needs tog et better at speed


whereas law fought both doffy and fuji at once.., fought doffy with luffy and by himself, fought vergo (i put him above the executives because he was the only one of doffy crew tht wasnt underwhelming)etc.. and some of those fights were back to back

as for the striking speed thing i agree as for reaction speed i dnt ... law has to come up with plans in his mind and act them out to counter someone... a power beast like zoro all he has to do is honestly just remember to block and hes good...

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Law is currently stronger, but Zoro will obviously have to surpass him eventually to become WSS.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Law is currently stronger, but Zoro will obviously have to surpass him eventually to become WSS.

not really i honestly think law isnt just a swordsman he uses a df, and is comparable to white beard (strongest fruit, ultimate fruit) because of the trio between luffy, kidd, law

white beard and and rodger were friends despite being in seperate crews or at very least mutual respect.. whereas shiki (kidd) was a guy who was comparable in strength and rodger respected him etc but controlled levitation ability fruit (similar to kidds magnetic fruit)


my point is zoro is supposed to get to mihawk strength or surpassing it.. whereas law is portrayed to be the new whitebeard


and whitebeard> mihawk


so i dnt c ur point in law having to be weaker than zoro at eos

 

[Hexuze]

For now, I see Law winning at the highest level of mid diff to probably the lowest level of high diff. Zoro's striking speed will be the biggest obstacle for Law and one gamma knife is an automatic win for Law.

 

[Main I]

Can Law not just Shambles away his swords and obliterate?

 

[Love Cook]

Zoro might beat Law in swordsmanship but I can't see Zoro overcome Law's devil fruit. That's why this would be an easy win for Law. Just like Luffy, Zoro gets confused by devil fruit tricks, and Law's is one of the trickiest. As soon as he is in the room its basically already over.

 

[OG sama]

Law would win yes.

But I don't agree with the pica part, look closely OP, Picas strap is much more stretched out indicating his muscles have gotten larger.

 

[-Akuma-]

Only Zoro d**k-riders think Zoro is stronger than Law.