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All hail prime hiruzen! Even as a kid he was stronger than Tobirama(mangaphax) As an adult, he shits on all the hokage and is on par with the likes of hagaromo,kaguya etc
 

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This is actually a legit thread and not a troll thread and is up for debate no matter what anyone here says Lol
people actually acknowledged Hiruzen's comments as possibly including Tobirama or excluding him.
Its no definite who he meant , but he did say "All of us".

However, when Tobirama says he himself will do it, the others say "no you cant, you're the Hokage" possibly meaning they didn't include him in Hiruzen's "All of us" comment because it seems Tobirama being the decoy was completely out of the question.

This possibly suggests no one included Tobirama in the "all of us" comment.
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The truth is right here fellas.
 

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Just a troll thread, nothing to see here.

How is this a troll thread? It's a manga fact. I just want to know why people deny things like this. Why is it hard to believe a young Hiruzen was as strong as Kishi made him out to be.
 

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Lol. Apparently you aren't the one reading correctly. "7 of us including Nidaime Sama" means that there are 7 people, and one of them is Tobirama.

How is this a troll thread? It's a manga fact. I just want to know why people deny things like this. Why is it hard to believe a young Hiruzen was as strong as Kishi made him out to be.

really people who take every word in the manga so literally are absolute idiots. Just stop and think for a second would kishi really intend to make hiruzen when he is barely a teen be stronger senju clan's second strongest ninja u must be out of ur mind or ur trolling i hope for your sake it is the latter.
 

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Why you are mad ? Because Tobirama shits on sasky ?
 

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I thought he was talking about those 2 teams, aside from Tobirama. After all, Hiruzen didn't realize Tobirama was going to volunteer.
 

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One look at his facial expression tells you he wasn't being serious. He was just trying to act brave infront of his team mates.
Hiruzen doesn't strike me as the sort of arrogant **** that makes statements like "I am the best". He's not Sasuke.
 

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One look at his facial expression tells you he wasn't being serious. He was just trying to act brave infront of his team mates.
Hiruzen doesn't strike me as the sort of arrogant **** that makes statements like "I am the best". He's not Sasuke.

Maybe because it's simply true . Didn't to tobirama deem him hokage
 

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One look at his facial expression tells you he wasn't being serious. He was just trying to act brave infront of his team mates.
Hiruzen doesn't strike me as the sort of arrogant **** that makes statements like "I am the best". He's not Sasuke.
He was young, people change and mature when they get older. Look at Kakashi, he used to be an arrogant prick when he was younger, now he's incredibly humble, polite and respectful.

Anyway, on topic:

Hiruzen did say "all of us" so who knows. But then again, Danzo immediately said that there is no one greater than Tobirama in the village. However Danzo was not one to acknowledge Hiruzen at the time so it's hard to take his words seriously there.

Decent thread I guess, at first I thought you were trolling.
 

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well that explains it.
I always wondered why tobirama got owned by 20 fodders, seems like hiruzen had better odds of survival :rolleyes:
 

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Lawl, this is actually a legit thread. Viz confirms it
Hiruzen: "Heh! No worries!

Despite how I act, I take pride in myself as the most accomplished of this bunch... I won't die."
Most accomplished of this bunch includes Hiruzen as well, he is a part of "this bunch."
 

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We all know Tobirama is garbage
 

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We all know that the people that don't like Tobirama are the Uchiha fans because he put them in their place.
 

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really people who take every word in the manga so literally are absolute idiots. Just stop and think for a second would kishi really intend to make hiruzen when he is barely a teen be stronger senju clan's second strongest ninja u must be out of ur mind or ur trolling i hope for your sake it is the latter.

Ask yourself why not because Kishi made it so the previous generations were meant to be surpassed. minato <=prime hiruzen > tobirama
 

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Why you are mad ? Because Tobirama shits on sasky ?

This is exactly why he is mad

Sasky get free baby candy power up and is supposed to be smart but Tobirama still neg diff him w/o full powers.
 

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This is exactly why he is mad

Sasky get free baby candy power up and is supposed to be smart but Tobirama still neg diff him w/o full powers.

Who is sasky and why would I be mad about someone I don't know
 

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Good thread, not sure why people are so against Hiruzen being strong in his youth.
 

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Ask yourself why not because Kishi made it so the previous generations were meant to be surpassed. minato <=prime hiruzen > tobirama

Then why isn't anyone from hiruzens era as strong as hashi or madara new gen aren't always better that much is obvious
 

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Then why isn't anyone from hiruzens era as strong as hashi or madara new gen aren't always better that much is obvious

That's because of ashura and Indra but look how much stronger the new reincarnations are
 
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