Discrediting Hashirama's Hype from Madara

[Bronze]

nope. you just lack reading comprehension.

"Only Hashirama could ever stop me...and he is no longer with us."
he believes that if hashirama was there, he would be capable of stopping him.

the original japanese text disagrees with you outright anyway:
オレを止められるのは唯一柱間だけだと言ったハズだ
＝ive said only hashirama can stop me, have i not.

madara already said where he stood on the food chain compared to hashirama. how you think madara wanting to fight him disproves anything is beyond me.


he wanted to fight hashirama before becoming a jinchuriki. so what? when did madara say that he would defeat him then become a jinchuriki? he merely stated that he wished to fight hashirama.

sorry thats never been stated to be fact in the manga nor in any kishi websites. dont fake stuff in here.

 

[Murasame]

I dont know either of you, but your sig made me chuckle.

Well I have no grudge with him.. yet. XD And haha thanks I get that Lol It's just we've had a few arguments then and there besides you were getting ganged up on and thought I should lend you some support They were misreading your posts so I had to point it out.

 

[TheSages456]

same as what you have done. you post fake sh1t then you say its facts.

its not fake but if you dont want to believe it then thats your problem.

it means hashirama isnt stronger, but he might have a chance of beating madara. you dont seem to understand the words correctly.

where does it say that hashirama isnt stronger?

you think everytime hashirama or madara says something then its a fact.

they are talking about themselves and how they stack in relation to each other so why wouldnt the readers believe them?

 

[Murasame]

nope. you just lack reading comprehension.

"Only Hashirama could ever stop me...and he is no longer with us."
he believes that if hashirama was there, he would be capable of stopping him.

the original japanese text disagrees with you outright anyway:
オレを止められるのは唯一柱間だけだと言ったハズだ
＝ive said only hashirama can stop me, have i not.

madara already said where he stood on the food chain compared to hashirama. how you think madara wanting to fight him disproves anything is beyond me.


he wanted to fight hashirama before becoming a jinchuriki. so what? when did madara say that he would defeat him then become a jinchuriki? he merely stated that he wished to fight hashirama.

Oh Sage how about you stop fanboying for once and accept that Madara may defeat Hashirama.. you seem to forget that he is not at full power don't you? Don't cry about it if Hashirama loses the fight just saying This Madara is beyond the Madara that Hashirama barely defeated.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Well I have no grudge with him.. yet. XD And haha thanks I get that Lol It's just we've had a few arguments then and there besides you were getting ganged up on and thought I should lend you some support They were misreading your posts so I had to point it out.

Well its the two biggest Hashitards on NB. Im not really worried about it.

 

[Bronze]

its not fake but if you dont want to believe it then thats your problem.

where does it say that hashirama isnt stronger?

they are talking about themselves and how they stack in relation to each other so why wouldnt the readers believe them?

so you send me a comment posted by narutoforum member and then you say its a fact. facts either come from the manga or narutowiki.

it says he was only stronger than ems madara. you seem to forget something very important.
this is what happened to hashirama when he faced ems madara:

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, how in the world is he going to beat edo madara who has rinnegan and mokuton as well as his original abilities despite being beyond his prime which was EMS+100%kyuubi.

edo hashirama gets raped by edo madara. thats why kishi had to bring back the edo hokages to help hashirama beat madara.

 

[TheSages456]

Oh Sage how about you stop fanboying for once

im not fanboying. im just capable of comprehending the manga which shouldnt be hard for anyone with an IQ over 1.

and accept that Madara may defeat Hashirama.. you seem to forget that he is not at full power don't you? Don't cry about it if Hashirama loses the fight

if madara beats hashirama, i wouldnt care. there is basically no reason for this to happen though since the manga outright disagrees with madara fanboys.

just saying This Madara is beyond the Madara that Hashirama barely defeated.

if you go by strictly feats without any extrapolation whatsoever then no, he is not.

 

[TheEvilOne]

For the longest time. People believed that Hashirama was superior to Madara soley based on this scan

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Some took this to believe that Madara was admiting inferiorty. This is false.

Look at this scan

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Madara says "I wanted to fight with Hashirama before becoming a Jinchuriki, but...". This clearly implies that Madara believed he would have defeated Hashirama and also that Hashi couldnt stop the Juubi.


Disclaimer: This thread's sole purpose is to show that statements can't be the base for an argument in a character beating another at face value. Leave that to feats.

No, this means he was afraid to face Hashirama with a mortal body.

 

[Murasame]

im not fanboying. im just capable of comprehending the manga which shouldnt be hard for anyone with an IQ over 1.

if madara beats hashirama, i wouldnt care. there is basically no reason for this to happen though since the manga outright disagrees with madara fanboys.

if you go by strictly feats without any extrapolation whatsoever then no, he is not.

True but you act like Madara doesn't have a chance to win. Its possible.

No reason? Just because Madara said what he did doesn't automatically make it Hashirama>Current Madara. He believes Hashirama is the only who could defeat him. Also don't forget Hashi isn't at full power.

So if EMS Madara fought Edo Rinnegan + mokuton Madara it would be equal? Please it was said that madara was beyond his prime when revived.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

the only scan i need to prove that madara is superior is this:

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Madara is boss, that scan gives me the chills... Madara is the real legend, not Hashi.