Discrediting Hashirama's Hype from Madara

[3 Days Grace]

What the actual ****?So madara saying he wants to fight Hashi counters him saying hashi could kick his uchiha ass?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

has the buddah ever touched ems madara? no, so it wont work.

Are you serious?

 

[TheSages456]

He also believes that he would have went on to beat him as well. The second scan proves that.

what does madara wanting to fight hashirama prove? the only way you could reach the conclusion in your thread is to intentionally look through the manga trying to grasp at any little thing you can find to discredit hashirama even if it directly contradict the authors intent. your evidence is faulty. it would be OOC for madara to not want to fight hashirama.

madara always wanted to fight hashirama. your thread proves nothing. this is basically a complete overreach by you trying to twist manga scans.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

What the actual ****?So madara saying he wants to fight Hashi counters him saying hashi could kick his uchiha ass?

Why dont you read and you'll understand the purpose of this thread.

what does madara wanting to fight hashirama prove? the only way you could reach the conclusion in your thread is to intentionally look through the manga trying to grasp at any little thing you can find to discredit hashirama even if they directly contradict the authors intent.

madara always wanted to fight hashirama. your thread proves nothing. this is basically a complete overreach by you trying to twist manga scans.

Ironic coming from you. Its the fact that he says that he'll fight Hashirama and then become the Juubi's Jinchuriki that shows he believes he can beat him. Now quit trying to make it out to seem like im saying that Madara is superior or that im trying to down play Hashi. Im simply stating that Madara doesn't believe himself to be weaker.

 

[Bronze]

Madara says . " Now Uchiha Madara will show his true power".. he brings out a Perfect Susano'o... slashes mountains.. and then says " Only Hashirama could ever stop me, but he is dead."...

Mokuton > EMS

Hashirama's SM > Madara's Rinnegan.

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''could ever'' reflects to the past. madara was talking about the past.

 

[Bronze]

Are you serious?

yes i am. buddah isnt working on madara since it never touched ems madara.

 

[TheSages456]

viz transilation says madara was talking about the past.

i already showed you the original japanese text.
VIZ: "Only Hashirama could ever stop me.... and he is no longer with us."
that means that madara thinks that hashirama would beat him if he were there. you are still wrong even going by your retarded logic.

so hashirama cant stop him, and if he did why would kishi have to resurrect the edo hokages?

not to fight madara.
hashirama stated that he would deal with madara later. madara stated that he wanted to fight hashirama. neither said anything about tobirama, minato or hiruzen being in their fight.

 

[TheSages456]

Why dont you read and you'll understand the purpose of this thread.



Ironic coming from you. Its the fact that he says that he'll fight Hashirama and then become the Juubi's Jinchuriki that shows he believes he can beat him. Now quit trying to make it out to seem like im saying that Madara is superior or that im trying to down play Hashi. Im simply stating that Madara doesn't believe himself to be weaker.

so you are clearly aware of the scans to where madara admits inferiority, but you are going to cling to a scan where madara states that he wants to fight hashirama even though it would be OOC for him not to want to fight him?

 

[Bronze]

i already showed you the original japanese text.
VIZ: "Only Hashirama could ever stop me.... and he is no longer with us."
that means that madara thinks that hashirama would beat him if he were there. you are still wrong even going by your retarded logic.

not to fight madara.
hashirama stated that he would deal with madara later. madara stated that he wanted to fight hashirama. neither said anything about tobirama, minato or hiruzen being in their fight.

which you have copied from a member of the narutoforum, something i will never believe until it shows in the manga with correct translation.
could definition:
Used to indicate possibility. madara is only giving hashirama the possibility.

they were meant to fight madara and obito and juubi. naruto will be the one to defeat obito and the edo hokages with 100+ to defeat madara. i think you are overrating hashirama.

 

[KingHashirama]

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''could ever'' reflects to the past. madara was talking about the past.

Then why did he say " but hes dead now". . Fail logic like a fanboy. ^_^. Keep rocking that fail logic.

Definition of could : Used to indicate possibility.

So what Madara stated is Hashirama has the possibility of stopping him... meaning Madara does not believe he is superior to Hashirama...

Funny part is.. Hashirama doesn't give a 2 sh*ts about Madara even after seeing he has the rinnegan. *_*

Stop insulting Madara and Hashirama, and trying to create flame wars between the 2 fans with your unsmartself.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

so you are clearly aware of the scans to where madara admits inferiority, but you are going to cling to a scan where madara states that he wants to fight hashirama even though it would be OOC for him not to want to fight him?

Those scans imply in the past. The scan I provide is much more relevant as it serves current Madara and current Hashirama. Your whole argument is on Madara thinking he's weaker, which is obviously not true when he thinks he's going to fight Hashi before becoming the Juubis Jin.

 

[KingHashirama]

Those scans imply in the past. The scan I provide is much more relevant as it serves current Madara and current Hashirama. Your whole argument is on Madara thinking he's weaker, which is obviously not true when he thinks he's going to fight Hashi before becoming the Juubis Jin.

He wanted to fight Hashirama before becoming the Juubi's jinchuriki.. how does that mean he thinks he superior? o-o. I don't see the logic here.

 

[blackstar9]

its more then just that one quote . madara himself basically admitted hashirama is the only ninja that can beat him ! im talking alive not edo

 

[TheSages456]

which you have copied from a member of the narutoforum, something i will never believe until it shows in the manga with correct translation.

you are simply trying to play the role of the extreme skeptic to burden others to constantly show more evidence without giving any evidence on your part to support your stance.

could definition:
Used to indicate possibility. madara is only giving hashirama the possibility.

and? whats your point? how does this change the fact that hashirama>madara even by madaras own admission.

they were meant to fight madara and obito and juubi. naruto will be the one to defeat obito and the edo hokages with 100+ to defeat madara. i think you are overrating hashirama.

according to madara and hashirama, they will have a 1 on 1. i dont really know what you're trying to prove when the manga disagrees.

 

[Bronze]

Then why did he say " but hes dead now". . Fail logic like a fanboy. ^_^. Keep rocking that fail logic.

Definition of could : Used to indicate possibility.

So what Madara stated is Hashirama has the possibility of stopping him... meaning Madara does not believe he is superior to Hashirama...

Funny part is.. Hashirama doesn't give a 2 sh*ts about Madara even after seeing he has the rinnegan. *_*

Stop insulting Madara and Hashirama, and trying to create flame wars between the 2 fans with your unsmartself.

could" is often stated as being the past tense of "can'', this is copied from this website:

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so what madara stated is hashirama only stopped him in the past when he was much weaker.

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hashirama is sweating due to fear that madara coming back to kick his ass.

 

[Bronze]

you are simply trying to play the role of the extreme skeptic to burden others to constantly show more evidence without giving any evidence on your part to support your stance.

and? whats your point? how does this change the fact that hashirama>madara even by madaras own admission.


according to madara and hashirama, they will have a 1 on 1. i dont really know what you're trying to prove when the manga disagrees.

same as what you have done. you post fake sh1t then you say its facts.

it means hashirama isnt stronger, but he might have a chance of beating madara. you dont seem to understand the words correctly.

you think everytime hashirama or madara says something then its a fact.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

He wanted to fight Hashirama before becoming the Juubi's jinchuriki.. how does that mean he thinks he superior? o-o. I don't see the logic here.

So you think he's going to get beatin by Hashirama then become the Juubi's Jin? Why in the world would Madara ever think that.

 

[Murasame]

He wanted to fight Hashirama before becoming the Juubi's jinchuriki.. how does that mean he thinks he superior? o-o. I don't see the logic here.

Read his post correctly.. he never implied that Madara was superior just because he wanted to fight him he implied that he wasn't inferior since he wants to fight him. Two different things KingHashirama.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Read his post correctly.. he never implied that Madara was superior just because he wanted to fight him he implied that he wasn't inferior since he wants to fight him. Two different things KingHashirama.

I dont know either of you, but your sig made me chuckle.

 

[TheSages456]

Those scans imply in the past.

nope. you just lack reading comprehension.

"Only Hashirama could ever stop me...and he is no longer with us."
he believes that if hashirama was there, he would be capable of stopping him.

the original japanese text disagrees with you outright anyway:
オレを止められるのは唯一柱間だけだと言ったハズだ
＝ive said only hashirama can stop me, have i not.

The scan I provide is much more relevant as it serves current Madara and current Hashirama.

madara already said where he stood on the food chain compared to hashirama. how you think madara wanting to fight him disproves anything is beyond me.

Your whole argument is on Madara thinking he's weaker, which is obviously not true when he thinks he's going to fight Hashi before becoming the Juubis Jin.

he wanted to fight hashirama before becoming a jinchuriki. so what? when did madara say that he would defeat him then become a jinchuriki? he merely stated that he wished to fight hashirama.