Did Sasuke really see through Itachi's Tsukuyomi?

[Murasame]

It does not take a instant when some1 is able to resist being caught into it. Sasuke delayed it with base sharingan and on the verge of loosing used CM and broke it very same moment. Even itachi was surprised. And itachi isnt the one to fake weaknesses or give fake praises

Itachi was acting the whole fight he even made himself look like he was crazy

 

[EternalFlame]

We do know that he broke Tsukuyomi - that's factual. Whether Itachi let him is debatable. I doubt it though. Sure, Itachi didn't want to kill him - but he did want to push him. Itachi was in pain after the technique was broken, I don't think he was expecting that Sasuke was so skillful with the Sharingan. If Itachi wanted to kill him though, he probably would of used a Tsykuyomi at the level he did with Kakashi.

Current Sasuke could probably break full powered Tsukuyomi though. Only an Uchiha with Itachi's blood can do so.

 

[Murasame]

We do know that he broke Tsukuyomi - that's factual. Whether Itachi let him is debatable. I doubt it though. Sure, Itachi didn't want to kill him - but he did want to push him. Itachi was in pain after the technique was broken, I don't think he was expecting that Sasuke was so skillful with the Sharingan. If Itachi wanted to kill him though, he probably would of used a Tsykuyomi at the level he did with Kakashi.

Current Sasuke could probably break full powered Tsukuyomi though. Only an Uchiha with Itachi's blood can do so.

Yeah current sasuke can break it but yeah he had to make it believable that he was trying to kill sasuke.. He nerfed himself remember when Itachi got stabbed in the leg? He couldve easily dodged that sasuke did break it but it was probably a weaker version of it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Itachi was acting the whole fight he even made himself look like he was crazy

doesn't change the fact that he was sick and he had to force oro to come out. If he was going easy susanno,amaterasu,and tsukuyomi wouldn't have ever been needed.

Sasuke forced him to use tsukuyomi because sasuke saw through all of his "parlor trick" genjutsu's
Sasuke forced him to use amaterasu because sasuke overpowered his fireball. His strongest long range tech outside of ms.
Sasuke forced him to use susanno for it was his only defense against kirin.

even if itachi planned to lose sasuke bested him in ninjutsu and genjutsu outside of ms.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Itachi was acting the whole fight he even made himself look like he was crazy

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Did he fake this? Or shuriken to the leg? Or burnt by fire? Or being flattened on the ground barely alive after kirin?
As planned?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yeah current sasuke can break it but yeah he had to make it believable that he was trying to kill sasuke.. He nerfed himself remember when Itachi got stabbed in the leg? He couldve easily dodged that sasuke did break it but it was probably a weaker version of it.

actually he couldn't dodge. Backlash from the previous ms tech and his illness is the reason he got hit.

 

[Murasame]

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Did he fake this? Or shuriken to the leg? Or burnt by fire? Or being flattened on the ground barely alive after kirin?
As planned?

actually he couldn't dodge. Backlash from the previous ms tech and his illness is the reason he got hit.

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Only thing he didn't plan on happening to him was Kirin and losing the fireball clash.

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[Owarij]

Wiki-source is the japanese script, so i think it's at least more believable. Not only that, but even the viz disagree with you. So i don't know what you mean by "every translation". This is what the viz says about it



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Concerning Kakashi's statement, obviously he would say that. He was at Itachi's mercy after receiving that genjutsu. He could even barely move. Reason why he is suprised he didn't take the opportunity to kill him

Edit: Oh shit it seems i can't link things from narutoforums -_-'

As I said, If Kakashi was questioning why Itachi didn't finish him off while he was at his mercy, his words would be " Why DOESN'T he just kill me"

Instead, he said "Didn't" , implying past , the opportunity he's talking about has already passed.. an the only even that happened before the statement , was the genjutsu

What you're saying makes no sense in terms of what Kakashi said

If I shoot someone in the leg, and immediately after , they say , "why didn't he just kill me" , the person is talking about the even that just happened... , If they go on to say " why doesn't he just kill me" , the future is taken into consideration

 

[Murasame]

As I said, If Kakashi was questioning why Itachi didn't finish him off while he was at his mercy, his words would be " Why DOESN'T he just kill me"

Instead, he said "Didn't" , implying past , the opportunity he's talking about has already passed.. an the only even that happened before the statement , was the genjutsu

What you're saying makes no sense in terms of what Kakashi said

If I shoot someone in the leg, and immediately after , they say , "why didn't he just kill me" , the person is talking about the even that just happened... , If they go on to say " why doesn't he just kill me" , the future is taken into consideration

Well said you explained it better than I could've.. I couldnt find any examples to use Lol

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

To my knowledge, never was it stated either in databook and in the manga that tsukuyomi can kill. When Sasuke got hit by tsukuyomi, Zetsu even said it will "only" handicap him

It can kill because depending on the torture the mind would think it's real and the person would die from that.

 

[Murasame]

It can kill because depending on the torture the mind would think it's real and the person would die from that.

Exactly but some people tend to underrate Tsukuyomi

 

[BlinkST]

It can kill because depending on the torture the mind would think it's real and the person would die from that.

The databook already said that it's impossible to kill a person with Tsukuyomi. They would be knocked out and very fatigued, but they'd never die.

 

[Murasame]

Why thank you, the only proof a got is this really.
Despite itachi playing weakling, sasuke did break out of his genjustu.

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He has been hit by so many of itachi's genjustu's that in theory it is nostalgic. Or maybe i'm wrong

Sorry I never got to replying you I forgot Lol but yeah I don't deny that Sasuke broke out of it but I believe that Itachi made it weaker and gave sasuke a chance to break out of it

 

[Murasame]

The databook already said that it's impossible to kill a person with Tsukuyomi. They would be knocked out and very fatigued, but they'd never die.

Really? :O Can you show it here then?

 

[Owarij]

The databook already said that it's impossible to kill a person with Tsukuyomi. They would be knocked out and very fatigued, but they'd never die.

got a link? or what page exactly?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

The databook already said that it's impossible to kill a person with Tsukuyomi. They would be knocked out and very fatigued, but they'd never die.

I think being brain dead is close enough IMO.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Itachi is in complete control with Tsukuyomi, whether or not people believe Itachi could have won the fight or not with Sasuke is debatable. Itachi planned to die in that battle whether he could win or not. He pulled Orochimaru out of Sasuke, freeing him and just prior to dying from his illness he gave Sasuke power. Then after he died basically gave him his eyes too. The entire plot with those two was about Itachi making Sasuke stronger.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Sasuke got hit with the full mind-effing effects of Tsukiyomi twice before, and he made no comments about the 3rd time being any weaker... he would know.

 

[Murasame]

Sasuke got hit with the full mind-effing effects of Tsukiyomi twice before, and he made no comments about the 3rd time being any weaker... he would know.

Not really they were different each time.. the 1st time he didn't try to incapacitate him.. he just showed him what did to the clan.. unless you think pre sharingan little kid was better than kakashi at taking tsukuyomi ad his older self when he was caught again. Plus how would Sasuke know? I mean he believed Itachi was trying to kill him when in fact he wasnt.

 

[Xlad]

It may not have been the strongest Tsukuyomi, considering that Itachi didn't really want to kill Sasuke. It's still a great feat, considering the skills Itachi had in genjutsu.