did naruto surpass his father and jiraiya ?
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HIROSHI KOBAYASHI
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maybe in terms of determiation and will power but in a fight they would kill him in five mins for the j-man but minito 1 second flat come on the konoha flash space time jutsu naruto isnt even on that level yet
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Ok this is all of those threads where we are guessing without the ability to talk facts. Thus this will be a difficult debat.
First off I dont think that Naruto have surpassed the 4th. Reason: we know to little of the 4ths abilities. And what we heard about his abilities makes him very deadly. All that we know in the Manga is that the toads and characters said that he could have surpassed the 4th, but we dont know if they were comparing the two on the same level and age, if you know what I mean, Naruto @ age 16 and the 4th @ age 16 or Naruto @ age 16 against 4th @ age lets say 32??
I honestly think that Naruto would give Kakashi a run for his money. I think that Kakashi moves/techniques/character is naturally affinited against Narutos abilities. I would also say that Kasashi have a definite advantage above other characters in the manga that you all miss looked, and that is that Kakashi was Naruto's teacher in his younger years. You learn alot from how a person would act when he becomes from being he's primary school teacher. I dont know how would win against each other its like a coin thats balanced, it can fall any which why depending on how slips up.
I think that Naruto would own Jman: Im a jman fan, but I honestly think that Naruto have taken everything the Jman had to offer and improved on that. The only thing that counts against Naruto is his age and experience and btw Kakashi have those as well. But lets get back to Jman. The Jman was also Naruto's teacher, but I think that Naruto have learned a lot more from Jman than he did from Naruto. Im not going to go thru the pro's and cons of each cause that list is endlessly long. Its after I analysed both and find that Naruto have more of an advantage over the Jman than he have over Naruto.
I would say that the Jman would win Kakashi: Also analized both and would say that the Jman have more experience than Kakshi. It would be a long battle and it will be very close but I think that the Jman have the upper hand in speed if he uses sage mode, he also have more chakra than Kakashi. Kakashi have a lot more techniques than Jman, but the Jman can lure him into a certain type of fighting environment that would suit him better. The only thing that I dont find a way for the Jman to win is if he allow Kakashi to use his MS. But I dont think that he's going to give Kakashi the time to activate his MS.
I think the 4th would own both Jman and Kakshi: This is only my opinion as I stated above that we know to little from the 4th to be able to make a accurate analysis between them.
The only person that would own the 4th is Chuck Norris but unfortunately not in the manga.
First off I dont think that Naruto have surpassed the 4th. Reason: we know to little of the 4ths abilities. And what we heard about his abilities makes him very deadly. All that we know in the Manga is that the toads and characters said that he could have surpassed the 4th, but we dont know if they were comparing the two on the same level and age, if you know what I mean, Naruto @ age 16 and the 4th @ age 16 or Naruto @ age 16 against 4th @ age lets say 32??
I honestly think that Naruto would give Kakashi a run for his money. I think that Kakashi moves/techniques/character is naturally affinited against Narutos abilities. I would also say that Kasashi have a definite advantage above other characters in the manga that you all miss looked, and that is that Kakashi was Naruto's teacher in his younger years. You learn alot from how a person would act when he becomes from being he's primary school teacher. I dont know how would win against each other its like a coin thats balanced, it can fall any which why depending on how slips up.
I think that Naruto would own Jman: Im a jman fan, but I honestly think that Naruto have taken everything the Jman had to offer and improved on that. The only thing that counts against Naruto is his age and experience and btw Kakashi have those as well. But lets get back to Jman. The Jman was also Naruto's teacher, but I think that Naruto have learned a lot more from Jman than he did from Naruto. Im not going to go thru the pro's and cons of each cause that list is endlessly long. Its after I analysed both and find that Naruto have more of an advantage over the Jman than he have over Naruto.
I would say that the Jman would win Kakashi: Also analized both and would say that the Jman have more experience than Kakshi. It would be a long battle and it will be very close but I think that the Jman have the upper hand in speed if he uses sage mode, he also have more chakra than Kakashi. Kakashi have a lot more techniques than Jman, but the Jman can lure him into a certain type of fighting environment that would suit him better. The only thing that I dont find a way for the Jman to win is if he allow Kakashi to use his MS. But I dont think that he's going to give Kakashi the time to activate his MS.
I think the 4th would own both Jman and Kakshi: This is only my opinion as I stated above that we know to little from the 4th to be able to make a accurate analysis between them.
The only person that would own the 4th is Chuck Norris but unfortunately not in the manga.