Deidara vs Kisame

[deidara senpai]

in terms of logic he won't use it. I am saying if he does not kno about c4 Kisame would not try to use waterdome against an opponent who flies. that is just logical, just think about it. All i am saying is that if they were to ever have a real 1v1 battle without knowledge about deidara's secret tech(which only tobi knos) kisame would not use water dome becos he would try to use long range attacks and not sit in a water dome when his opponent is fighting. But wiith knowledge kisame takes it without that much difficulty. And first of all kisame won't just win if he is just in the water dome, he has to go for the kill not just stand there and water dome's which he uses only when there is an opponent inside and kisame can absorb his/her chakra.

so i guess your saying that kisame is to over confident that he wont use it
he never loses his guard i am thinking logical and i still see kisame winning

i mean why not the water dome can reach his flight and i still think kisame will use it in the fight and he doesnt have to just say their the dome can move so he can catch up to deidara plus the water bullet the big one absorbs chakra and could absorb the c4 if it wanted to what will deidara do against that besides kill himself from c0 you are kinda acting like deidara has knowledge on kisame as well it sounds like at least idk

 

[Lt Fresh]

whoever said that doton>suiton in naruto remember lightning can disable it not water. And why would kisame be in a a water dome when his opponent is in the air.

I was trying to say that the water dome could act like a defense against his C4 probably. And it wouldn't matter if his opponent is in the air cuz in the manga and anime that dome was huge way above the tree line

 

[arv993]

so i guess your saying that kisame is to over confident that he wont use it
he never loses his guard i am thinking logical and i still see kisame winning

i mean why not the water dome can reach his flight and i still think kisame will use it in the fight and he doesnt have to just say their the dome can move so he can catch up to deidara plus the water bullet the big one absorbs chakra and could absorb the c4 if it wanted to what will deidara do against that besides kill himself from c0 you are kinda acting like deidara has knowledge on kisame as well it sounds like at least idk

i am saying they have basic knowledge on each other like they all aktasuki members do, kisame is water style shinobi it would be a little obvious to deidara about that. they have basic knowledge of each other except for stuff like secret ultimate techs like shark missile and c4. water dome won't likely catch someone in air, its easier for deidara to dodge it than kisame to catch, its nothing to do with being overconfident kisame would try to use attacks like water bullet, great shark bullet, a thousand feeding sharks to get him instead of being in a water dome it is not about being overconfident it is just that water dome is only useful to kisame when he tries to absorb ppl's chakra. Deidara really wouldn't have much options and release c4 which he can't absorb because he can't see it, doesn't kno if he should not breathe and dojutsu is the only defense against it. And i would also think that his dome is breakable if deidara uses c4 becus that thing is huge.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Long Range vs short range is always different. If Kisame gets in Deidara's face, it's over. If Deidara keeps a good distance and had alot of bombs, it's over. Samehada hurts from a fireball (See two chapters ago), but can still absorb it. It hurts. Take note. They bombs should be similar.


If Kisame could ground Deidara, it'd be over.

 

[arv993]

Long Range vs short range is always different. If Kisame gets in Deidara's face, it's over. If Deidara keeps a good distance and had alot of bombs, it's over. Samehada hurts from a fireball (See two chapters ago), but can still absorb it. It hurts. Take note. They bombs should be similar.


If Kisame could ground Deidara, it'd be over.

agree with that

 

[Jonathon]

Kisame would rape Deidara.

 

[ssDeadly]

Kisame would rape Deidara.

i hate it when poeple say this. but yes kisame would beat him its a fair fight

 

[deidara senpai]

i am saying they have basic knowledge on each other like they all aktasuki members do, kisame is water style shinobi it would be a little obvious to deidara about that. they have basic knowledge of each other except for stuff like secret ultimate techs like shark missile and c4. water dome won't likely catch someone in air, its easier for deidara to dodge it than kisame to catch, its nothing to do with being overconfident kisame would try to use attacks like water bullet, great shark bullet, a thousand feeding sharks to get him instead of being in a water dome it is not about being overconfident it is just that water dome is only useful to kisame when he tries to absorb ppl's chakra. Deidara really wouldn't have much options and release c4 which he can't absorb because he can't see it, doesn't kno if he should not breathe and dojutsu is the only defense against it. And i would also think that his dome is breakable if deidara uses c4 becus that thing is huge.

im starting to agree with the water dome thing but kisame will know about the bombs and how they have chakra even if he doesnt use water dome he has techniques that can counter most of those bombs

c1 basic stuff you and i both know kisame can deal with that

c2 kisame can use that technique with a crapload of water against gai with it it gains kisame some height from the missles and mines would be useless from the water

c3 this he can could use water dome when he first sees this cause of how big it pretty much is and odds are how big the explosion can bee so than kisame can fuse with samehada at the same time and the explosion wont work once it gets into the water it wont work once the chakra gets away

c4 now with the water dome already out even if kisame did try to swim in the dome away the bombs that he wont know about and since deidara might know what the dome can do from c3's failure i dont think he will use c4 because if the bombs came in contact with the dome it would fail off

than its up to deidara what happens their he ca despritly try more of his bombs until kisame kills him

or can use c0 to end it all

with no knowledge i still see kisame winning or its a draw

 

[ChrisWolf]

This one was a tough one for me I had to really think about it and as much as I want to say kisame would win the fact is he fights from the ground and deidara fights from the air first of all so this gives deidara an advantage none of kisames water techniques would really matter and you are all forgetting one thing you all keep saying that kisame can absord chakra but he can't...his sword can, so if deidara can manage to get an explosion close enough before kisame can move his sword to absorb its chakra that kisame takes a critical if not fatal hit, although kisame does have a chance, as we've seen before deidara is very limited with his clay he could run out quickly although kisame has a massive amount of chakra, so if kisame could survive long enough to waste all of deidaras clay then deidara would be fairly helpless but even then deidara has the higher ground by being in the air and kisame doesnt really have any way to reach him so even then deidaras got an advantage that makes this fight look like a huge disadvantage for kisame altogether. So I say deidara.

 

[Just L]

with samehada or without kisame gonna win he has ninjutsu absorbing shark so its gameover for deidara

 

[arv993]

im starting to agree with the water dome thing but kisame will know about the bombs and how they have chakra even if he doesnt use water dome he has techniques that can counter most of those bombs

c1 basic stuff you and i both know kisame can deal with that

c2 kisame can use that technique with a crapload of water against gai with it it gains kisame some height from the missles and mines would be useless from the water

c3 this he can could use water dome when he first sees this cause of how big it pretty much is and odds are how big the explosion can bee so than kisame can fuse with samehada at the same time and the explosion wont work once it gets into the water it wont work once the chakra gets away

c4 now with the water dome already out even if kisame did try to swim in the dome away the bombs that he wont know about and since deidara might know what the dome can do from c3's failure i dont think he will use c4 because if the bombs came in contact with the dome it would fail off

than its up to deidara what happens their he ca despritly try more of his bombs until kisame kills him

or can use c0 to end it all

with no knowledge i still see kisame winning or its a draw

dude deidara would kno the bombs won't work on water attacks after trying it out. remember he can also make smaller versions of c4 which are easier to implement and kisame would have no idea that if he would breathe it that he would die and disintegrate. If he gets out of the water dome to try to even attack him deidara can justu use c4 and get kisame disintegrated.

 

[believe7]

Although I prefer kisami than Deidara cause I think Deidara is rather cheapy with those bombs but I must say Kisami dont stand a chance cause he is an amazing strategist when it comes to battle for example the fight against him and Garra. Secondly he is a long distance fighter while kisami a mid range fighter wont stand a chance against deidra just my opinion

 

[Raikage A]

i used to think that but i can't see him beating c4, if it wasn't for c4 i would think kisame would easily win this.

8/10 Kisame wins, maybe even 9/10 and this is why.

They start fighting, so Deidara flies and throws bombs, most of which kisame dodges or absorbs the chakra in the clay, so deidara gets mad and pops a bigger explosion, one that leaves kisame flying because he couldn't swing samehada quick enough or something. kisame gets angry and merges with samehada and puts him in a water dome! Why the water you ask? because kisame is smart enough to figure out that the explosions would be much less effective. So Deidara uses c3, but kisame swims below fast and so the bomb barely did anything, now deidara is screwed, and kisame hits him with a long range shark missile, which is very fast, and diedara gets hit and games over. Lets say deidara survives the hit, he gets mad and does c4 with his remaining chakra, and as soon as the little explosives hit the water they become ineffective. Deidara runs out of chakra, Kisame hits him with another long range attack, game over. kisame wins, and this is if Kisame doesnt kill him in the begging of the fight with shark missiles. :no_ignore:

 

[arv993]

8/10 Kisame wins, maybe even 9/10 and this is why.

They start fighting, so Deidara flies and throws bombs, most of which kisame dodges or absorbs the chakra in the clay, so deidara gets mad and pops a bigger explosion, one that leaves kisame flying because he couldn't swing samehada quick enough or something. kisame gets angry and merges with samehada and puts him in a water dome! Why the water you ask? because kisame is smart enough to figure out that the explosions would be much less effective. So Deidara uses c3, but kisame swims below fast and so the bomb barely did anything, now deidara is screwed, and kisame hits him with a long range shark missile, which is very fast, and diedara gets hit and games over. Lets say deidara survives the hit, he gets mad and does c4 with his remaining chakra, and as soon as the little explosives hit the water they become ineffective. Deidara runs out of chakra, Kisame hits him with another long range attack, game over. kisame wins, and this is if Kisame doesnt kill him in the begging of the fight with shark missiles. :no_ignore:

i don't think shark missile works in the air, not all water attacks work on the air. And water dome is not perfect if it is broken with doton style ninjutsu which deiadara has(doton>suiton), or his big version of himself can also break probably break the dome and then if he uses c4 kisame would disintegrate. It is definitely possible for deidara to win water dome is not unbreakable.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

c4 is like unbeatible if u can't see da bombs

 

[MinatoFLASH]

i don't think shark missile works in the air, not all water attacks work on the air. And water dome is not perfect if it is broken with doton style ninjutsu which deiadara has(doton>suiton), or his big version of himself can also break probably break the dome and then if he uses c4 kisame would disintegrate. It is definitely possible for deidara to win water dome is not unbreakable.

doton>suiton doesnt matter right here or anything like that, we have no proof that it wud end the water dome at all. Kisame wud win trust me, and yes the shark missiles work in the air, Kisame can also go under ground if Diedara uses c4, he wud be like "wtf is this" and go under ground so that no matter what happens he wud be safe from the explosion. And saying doton>suiton dont mean Deidara wud win, thats like saying Kakuzu wud also beat Kisame, he has all elements. So my point is Kisame wud win, especially with water dome or if he goes under ground, even Diedara senpai agreed to it.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

8/10 Kisame wins, maybe even 9/10 and this is why.

They start fighting, so Deidara flies and throws bombs, most of which kisame dodges or absorbs the chakra in the clay, so deidara gets mad and pops a bigger explosion, one that leaves kisame flying because he couldn't swing samehada quick enough or something. kisame gets angry and merges with samehada and puts him in a water dome! Why the water you ask? because kisame is smart enough to figure out that the explosions would be much less effective. So Deidara uses c3, but kisame swims below fast and so the bomb barely did anything, now deidara is screwed, and kisame hits him with a long range shark missile, which is very fast, and diedara gets hit and games over. Lets say deidara survives the hit, he gets mad and does c4 with his remaining chakra, and as soon as the little explosives hit the water they become ineffective. Deidara runs out of chakra, Kisame hits him with another long range attack, game over. kisame wins, and this is if Kisame doesnt kill him in the begging of the fight with shark missiles. :no_ignore:

Cudnt of said it better, rep+

 

[arv993]

doton>suiton doesnt matter right here or anything like that, we have no proof that it wud end the water dome at all. Kisame wud win trust me, and yes the shark missiles work in the air, Kisame can also go under ground if Diedara uses c4, he wud be like "wtf is this" and go under ground so that no matter what happens he wud be safe from the explosion. And saying doton>suiton dont mean Deidara wud win, thats like saying Kakuzu wud also beat Kisame, he has all elements. So my point is Kisame wud win, especially with water dome or if he goes under ground, even Diedara senpai agreed to it.

i just think that deidara would have high lvl doton capabilities like his masters and fellow pupils in Iwa but that is speculation. and water dome is not unbreakable it can be broken like with his big clone of c4 and u also forget that these are millions of particles not being able to be seen unless having dojutsu and deidara can make ones that are smaller like he did to sasuke and can can go closer to kisame and explode it which is really possible considering deidara is pretty fast with his bird and if kisame just inhales it he would be dead. as soon as kisame comes from the ground deodara can blast a smaller c4 near him and kisame would not be able to do anything.

 

[arv993]

don't get me wrong kisame is a monster i think the 4th strongest in the akatsuki but if he does not have info on this specific tech he won't win.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

i just think that deidara would have high lvl doton capabilities like his masters and fellow pupils in Iwa but that is speculation. and water dome is not unbreakable it can be broken like with his big clone of c4 and u also forget that these are millions of particles not being able to be seen unless having dojutsu and deidara can make ones that are smaller like he did to sasuke and can can go closer to kisame and explode it which is really possible considering deidara is pretty fast with his bird and if kisame just inhales it he would be dead. as soon as kisame comes from the ground deodara can blast a smaller c4 near him and kisame would not be able to do anything.

sry but as soon as Kisame sees the big Deidara he wud go underground, he doesnt need to see the mini bombs if they cant hit him in water, also Kisame can go underground without water dome.