Debunking Naruto and Kurama's relationship

[King of Camelot]

I don't understand why people have a problem with Naruto burrowing power? I mean don't all of you borrow electricity from the government?

I thought i bought electricity from my power supplier non affiliated with the government. :|

 

[Nagi]

What? Naruto had to work with Kyuubi or form a bond, otherwise Kyuubi was going to steal his chakra. It wasn't until Madara become a factor that Kyuubi helped him and they became close.

I forgot all about that shit. kurama got his shit together once Madara appear. That Madara installed fear in his ass. XD

 

[NukaCola]

According to Kishimoto they are "one".

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Yes... but i'm not trying to prove that i'm the best at it.

How can you when it becomes non factor after your use. Sasuke has taken power while Naruto has borrowed power. Either way you look at it they got it from some source. It makes neither character look better or worser. So not sure why this is used in arguements to degrade either?

 

[To Whatever]

Chapter: 499 "A New Seal" = 1 chapter
Chapter 538: "Cross-Examination" = 1 chapter

total= 2/700 chapters of Naruto supposedly put his pet on a leash.

2 Chapters was all it took for Kurama to know his place.

Dude... nobody is saying Naruto begs for chakra past chapter 500... :|

Just the 500 chapters prior.

The "begging" came with risks. Risks that endangered his life with prolonged usage. Not to mention he didn't rely on Kurama's chakra 500 chapters prior. After he went 4TK which was chapter: 294 and ended in 297. He didn't use Kurama's unfiltered chakra for a long span. He even states he won't try to rely on Kurama or his chakra anymore.

It wasn't until The Pain Arc did he really loose grip on his resolve and fell into his anger:

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That's the seal of kcm. Naruto broke that to go bm all out

Bijuu Mode is on another level.

KCM doesn't require Kurama's cooperation or unity

Bijuu Mode, Bijuu Sage Mode and RSM does. It symbolizes the prophecy and the bond between them.

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[Natsu Shazneel]

I thought i bought electricity from my power supplier non affiliated with the government. :|

What you have is still borrowed power.

 

[Nagi]

2 Chapters was all it took for Kurama to know his place.

Nope. All it took was Madara appearing on the battlefield. Kurama got his shit together after that. XD

 

[Dantee]

You missed the fact KCM is completely limited and Kurama had the chance to forcefully subdue Naruto once his KCM reserves were gone. You completely left out that part out almost conveniently lol.

 

[To Whatever]

What? Naruto had to work with Kyuubi or form a bond, otherwise Kyuubi was going to steal his chakra. It wasn't until Madara become a factor that Kyuubi helped him and they became close.

Wrong. Read chapter 570 "Kurama". Chapter 569 "A Proof of good will" and Chapter 539 "Bloody Night"

They became close the moment he told him he was going to do something about his anger.

And Kurama looking over Naruto's past actions.

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[hixa kuogame]

They're borrowed regardless of Kurama's will.

However, he stopped begging for it at chapter 499.

I don't remember Naruto begging for power except for once in his fight against Neji, when he barely knew anything about the Nine Tails. The kyuubi has influenced Naruto into taking his power in an effort to escape, but that's typically when Naruto is enraged and cant fight against the Kyuubi's influence. Yes, Naruto did use the Nine Tails power, but it's not like he wanted to every time, or like he's never fought without it for prolonged periods of time.

 

[LordRaikage]

naruto worked for his tail beast powers and respect from the beasts he didn't get it free.

Or Kurama would of killed him and called him weak.

 

[Narutrol]

According to Kishimoto they are "one".

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Naruto and nine tails are a two men team

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[To Whatever]

You missed the fact KCM is completely limited and Kurama had the chance to forcefully subdue Naruto once his KCM reserves were gone. You completely left out that part out almost conveniently lol.

What does that have to do with anything? Kurama respected Naruto enough to not do that. It's not limited so much as it's the same size of his regular reserves more or less.

Not to mention Killer Bee already informed Naruto about the danger since Kurama was still resisting him. (If Naruto leashed him again i'd be fine).

Naruto managed his chakra and the only ones that left KCM was his clones. Which Kurama gave chakra to.


Plus, I already touched on it in this very thread:

Bijuu Mode is on another level.

KCM doesn't require Kurama's cooperation or unity

Bijuu Mode, Bijuu Sage Mode and RSM does. It symbolizes the prophecy and the bond between them.

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[-Punk-]

Almost done reading, just letting you know

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Where is that Time Bomb image from?

 

[LeSauce]

It's borrowed power according to Kishi himself.

Also, like Dantee already said, his own potential caps at KCM and that will eventually kill him.

 

[Dantee]

What does that have to do with anything? Kurama respected Naruto enough to not do that. It's not limited so much as it's the same size of his regular reserves more or less.

Not to mention Killer Bee already informed Naruto about the danger since Kurama was still resisting him. (If Naruto leashed him again i'd be fine).

Naruto managed his chakra and the only ones that left KCM was his clones. Which Kurama gave chakra to.


Plus, I already touched on it in this very thread:

1st line of your thread... Naruto does not have to ask to borrow kuramas reserves.. But he absolutely has to. None of Kuramas chakra is up for Narutos grabs anymore ever since he gained BM. Your KCM anaylsis was just plain wrong.

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Thats why Naruto gained a completely new form once he got BM because they are working together. Naruto has no dominance whatsoever. It's a co-partnership with Kurama supplying the power.

 

[NukaCola]

Naruto and nine tails are a two men team

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Care to guess which scan is more relevant?

 

[Madara the Solo King]

This is why naruto is such a badass. No matter what the circumstance he always had a way to be friends with them. This is also why Kurama has the best relationship with Naruto compared to any other jinchuriki.

 

[To Whatever]

1st line of your thread... Naruto does not have to ask to borrow kuramas reserves.. But he absolutely has to. None of Kuramas chakra is up for Narutos grabs anymore ever since he gained BM. Your KCM anaylsis was just plain wrong.

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Thats why Naruto gained a completely new form once he got BM because they are working together. Naruto has no dominance whatsoever. It's a co-partnership with Kurama supplying the power.

Did you not just read what Gyuki said?

"But the Nine-tails isn't the type to sit down and talk things out"

You do know what he's implying, correct? Due to Kurama being stubborn, he can only access a given amount at a time that he takes.

Naruto wasn't negotiating with him at all. He gave the Kage bunshin Chakra on his own volition.