Debunked: Ashura or Naruto had not natural talent or can not solo [Please read it]

[Colonel Armstrong]

another shit thread by the guy who posts fake spoilers every week

itachi solos ashura

burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

 

[paratise]

Is solo'ing really an important part of a character now...?

İt had always been...
You must be new to literature.

 

[KCMNaruto]

This is not a troll thread. so take your trolling some where else

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This is what the great Uchiha itachi said. ^^^^

^^ True, you are great fellow friend

I want to apologize to you for my rude behaviour which was not even right due to confusing you reffering to me instead of reffering to him.

Facts:

Ashura was born weaker than his brother.

Indra was born with great power and powerful eyes.

Indra believed power was all that was needed to make change and therefore did everything on his own.

Ashra, being weaker than his brother sought a different path to power through companionship and friendship (Fighting for others rather than for the sake of themselves)

Eventually Ashrua's power manifested, and grew. He had not only became equal to his brother in power, he understood was love and bonds could achieve.

Thus the SO6P made Ashura the inheritor of ninshuu.

Speculation:
Indra was angered by this fact as he was always born stronger than his brother and could not understand why his father chose Ashra over him.

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^^ True + rep for you

 

[take it easy]

Please stop arguing the manga. Nothing you say will can debunk the manga itself:

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DEAL WITH IT!

please read next page.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Please stop arguing the manga. Nothing you say will can debunk the manga itself:

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DEAL WITH IT!

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Well let's play then as childs, because you certainly like to fight this way U_U

please amuse me some more

Anyway, I hope you can read properly

 

[TrollKing]

İt had always been...
You must be new to literature.

It's never important to naruto, except maybe he was still first 2 weeks of part 1. Solo only important to naruto fans. What's important to naruto are friendship, teamwork and companions

 

[KCMNaruto]

Ashura > Indra. Come at me haters XD

hahah, yes let's rustle some jimmies ;p

 

[Vega]

Hello guys, I would like to clear/debunk miscinception about Ashura or Naruto having no talent or being unable to fight on their own which appeared after the lastest chapter 670 got released:

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^^ "He could do nothing on his own"

^^ "To have the same power as his brother"

Sadly, first quote of Sage's talked about made people misunderstood or confuse so much that they thought he was dependant in every battle FOREVER. Of course I am not going to go against the manga and argue that he need help of friends in his early age..., but I completly disagree about the word "Forever", Here I will explain why ?

Second quote mentioning "To have the same power as his brother" was also understood by people in wrong way becuase most of the people believe now that Ashura always needed help to be on par with Indra, which is UTERRLY FALSE.

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^^By suffering and training hard, the chakra within his body blooomed...and he gained the same power as his brother"

^^"He also understood that the cooperation and help of other people is what made him strong"

First quote clearly shows that Ashura as well as Naruto needed to expierience suffering and trained really hard for their hidden power to be awaken.

Second quote means that even although Ashura/Naruto got such strong by himself although with help of friends. Due to respect to friends and knowing pain and what friendship means and can give you they owed their greatness to them.

WRONG CONCLUSION: Ashura was weak-> Ashura got frienship of friends and trained hard-> Ashura with friends was powerfull

RIGHT CONCLUSION: Ashura was weak-> Ashura got friendship and trained hard-> Ashura got powerfull by himself due to help of his friends.

In the end Ashura had always SAME POTENTIAL as his older brother, just as Naruto and Sasuke but he needed to went through hell to awake it. It can be called curse but it was also bless as thanks to it Naruto could learn hard work, not giving up, mutual understanding and to help other and appreciatate frienship.

EXTRA food for thoughts :

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Interesting fact is that in difference to Ashura and Indra, Naruto has taught Sasuke ideals/ good values and showed him how love can affect while Sasuke has pushed Naruto through entire manga to help him develop his potential and awake his powers.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts !

I agree, people twist the manga. It should be clear that Naruto/Ashura were not born strong and worked/trained hard to become strong. And I find how people try twisting Hagoromo's words to try and say that Naruto/Ashura are fodders relying on other power, while in reality Indra was only strong since he had the Sage's power gene.

 

[Solo]

please read next page.

This one panel told me everything I need to know.

 

[T I A]

hahah, yes let's rustle some jimmies ;p

No I'm serious.
If Senju is > Uchiha then Ashura > Indra as well.
Only fanboys will denial this fact. And there is a reason why Rikudo entrusted his will to Ashura

 

[shadowcb]

Please stop arguing the manga. Nothing you say will can debunk the manga itself:

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DEAL WITH IT!

Yes, its post like yours why I believe a lot people misunderstand what Kishi meant when he talks about Ashura receiving help. Kishi is just saying Ashura, like Naruto, becomes stronger through additional training, guidance, and help from others.

SM Naruto and MS Sasuke are an excellent example: Sasuke gain MS from just watching his brother's death. He learned how to use that power on his own which made him stronger. While Naruto require Pa Frog to teach him SM. He required long hours of training to learn how to use that power on his own which made him stronger.

 

[To Whatever]

Ashura < Indra at birth

Ashura = Indra in power

Ashura > Indra in understanding and bonds.

It's already been established since the land of waves arc in Naruto,that fighting for others makes you stronger than fighting for yourself.

I'm not sure that applies when Ashura fought his brother, unless Indra became evil and tried to endanger the lives of others. In that case, Ashura would be fighting for a greater cause: The people who he cares for.

 

[life and mutiny]

agreed, plus ashura's decendents weren't strong for nothing

 

[take it easy]

Yes, its post like yours why I believe a lot people misunderstand what Kishi meant when he talks about Ashura receiving help. Kishi is just saying Ashura, like Naruto, becomes stronger through additional training, guidance, and help from others.

SM Naruto and MS Sasuke are an excellent example: Sasuke gain MS from just watching his brother's death. He learned how to use that power on his own which made him stronger. While Naruto require Pa Frog to teach him SM. He required long hours of training to learn how to use that power on his own which made him stronger.

you're wrong. itachi sealed all MS jutsu in sasuke eyes

 

[paratise]

It's never important to naruto, except maybe he was still first 2 weeks of part 1. Solo only important to naruto fans. What's important to naruto are friendship, teamwork and companions

Nope most important part of a character is soloing and power. It have always been, base convinced me.

 

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This one panel told me everything I need to know.

Ignorant as usual i see to anything that doesn't support your fantasies

 

[paratise]

It's never important to naruto, except maybe he was still first 2 weeks of part 1. Solo only important to naruto fans. What's important to naruto are friendship, teamwork and companions

Nope most important part of a character is soloing and power. I have always been, base convinced me.

 

[To Whatever]

Nope most important part of a character is soloing and power. It have always been, base convinced me.

You must only read shonen literature & ignore character development.

 

[TrollKing]

Nope most important part of a character is soloing and power. I have always been, base convinced me.

I'm surprised kishi didn't convince you in last chapter but the base did convinced you the opposite and apply it to the main character XD

 

[shadowcb]

you're wrong. itachi sealed all MS jutsu in sasuke eyes

I disagree. Those were Sasuke's MS jutsu. Its the receive he can use Enton and Itachi can't.