Debunked: Ashura or Naruto had not natural talent or can not solo [Please read it]

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Hello guys, I would like to clear/debunk miscinception about Ashura or Naruto having no talent or being unable to fight on their own which appeared after the lastest chapter 670 got released:

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^^ "He could do nothing on his own"

^^ "To have the same power as his brother"

Sadly, first quote of Sage's talked about made people misunderstood or confuse so much that they thought he was dependant in every battle FOREVER. Of course I am not going to go against the manga and argue that he need help of friends in his early age..., but I completly disagree about the word "Forever", Here I will explain why ?

Second quote mentioning "To have the same power as his brother" was also understood by people in wrong way becuase most of the people believe now that Ashura always needed help to be on par with Indra, which is UTERRLY FALSE.

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^^By suffering and training hard, the chakra within his body blooomed...and he gained the same power as his brother"

^^"He also understood that the cooperation and help of other people is what made him strong"

First quote clearly shows that Ashura as well as Naruto needed to expierience suffering and trained really hard for their hidden power to be awaken.

Second quote means that even although Ashura/Naruto got such strong by himself although with help of friends. Due to respect to friends and knowing pain and what friendship means and can give you they owed their greatness to them.

WRONG CONCLUSION: Ashura was weak-> Ashura got frienship of friends and trained hard-> Ashura with friends was powerfull

RIGHT CONCLUSION: Ashura was weak-> Ashura got friendship and trained hard-> Ashura got powerfull by himself due to help of his friends.

In the end Ashura had always SAME POTENTIAL as his older brother, just as Naruto and Sasuke but he needed to went through hell to awake it. It can be called curse but it was also bless as thanks to it Naruto could learn hard work, not giving up, mutual understanding and to help other and appreciatate frienship.

EXTRA food for thoughts :
Interesting fact is that in difference to Ashura and Indra, Naruto has taught Sasuke ideals/ good values and showed him how love can affect while Sasuke has pushed Naruto through entire manga to help him develop his potential and awake his powers.

Thanks for reading !

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another shit thread by the guy who posts fake spoilers every week

itachi solos ashura
 

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I don't know if I can take you seriously.
 

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People need to read the manga properly and analyze, a thread isn't needed for this
 

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another shit thread by the guy who posts fake spoilers every week

itachi solos ashura

You are shit and please take your shit somewhere elese but I am allergic to your bad smell.

Get lost troll
 

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Ashura gained equal power to Indra in the end, nobody reads..
 

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So6god stated clearly, power of friendships and others===>solo king(indra) who had NO ONE to support at all
 

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I don't know if I can take you seriously.

well you don't have but then let's see if you can do better U_U

People need to read the manga properly and analyze, a thread isn't needed for this

^^ Well true, but most of people just read for action and to catch some words from the manga to troll or wank....

Is solo'ing really an important part of a character now...?

Well I didn't mean solo literally, just that they are strong on their own when they grown up.
 

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naruto and ashura always has equal talent to indra and sasuke
 

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why is this so important to? you just want ashura to be equal because you like naruto? and would've disliked the fact they can't do things on there own. for what we know Kurama can talk and help naruto sooo

i'm not saying you are wrong nor Right
 

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100% right, but there are some who desperately want Naruto to be weak, so they'll ignore this.
 

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why is this so important to? you just want ashura to be equal because you like naruto? and would've disliked the fact they can't do things on there own. for what we know Kurama can talk and help naruto sooo

Yes, this is important, because Kishi's message is not that you are worthless and only with your friends you can be strong and survive through the life but it is everyone has hidden potential but only thanks to friends arround you and hard work you can awake that potential.

If you was right then Rock Lee would the main character.

Difference:

Naruto was weak(great potential hidden)-> Naruto got powerfull
Lee was weak(lack of potential)-> Lee got stronger

Although in some way Lee makes himself Taijutsu master following Gai's way... so it is debatable.
 

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another shit thread by the guy who posts fake spoilers every week

itachi solos ashura

This is not a troll thread. so take your trolling some where else

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This is what the great Uchiha itachi said. ^^^^
 

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^^ Exactly ;) + rep for you :p



Well another one who can not read... U_U

Kishi stated clearly naruto power is not to solo. You fans trying too hard to give him ability kishi refused to give naruto. You naruto fans think like sasuke. Naruto probably will beat sasuke at the end and its not because he's solo king or genius, kishi stated it more than dozen occasions that he has everyone support, physically as well as mentally
 
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Facts:

Ashura was born weaker than his brother.

Indra was born with great power and powerful eyes.

Indra believed power was all that was needed to make change and therefore did everything on his own.

Ashra, being weaker than his brother sought a different path to power through companionship and friendship (Fighting for others rather than for the sake of themselves)

Eventually Ashrua's power manifested, and grew. He had not only became equal to his brother in power, he understood was love and bonds could achieve.

Thus the SO6P made Ashura the inheritor of ninshuu.

Speculation:
Indra was angered by this fact as he was always born stronger than his brother and could not understand why his father chose Ashra over him.


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Please stop arguing the manga. Nothing you say will can debunk the manga itself:

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DEAL WITH IT!
 

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Ashura > Indra. Come at me haters XD
 
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