[Game] Death Note Mafia Game #34

Who is the MVP of this game?

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  • Elmage G Ace

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  • Fait Accompli

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  • Ansatsuken

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  • Nikamara

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  • Soulkiller

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TheLukundo

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Guillo/Osie is either a great theatre or not a team.

This leaves Guillo/Rej or Osie/Rej

@Guillotina

You TR me.

That means you don't think I can be scum.

That also means that you should be thinking mafia is Rej/Osie.

Vote Rej with me
 
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Is Osie always like this? Honestly. I don't remember, however based on trying to help the game they're being far townier than Rej. Especially as he stated he doesn't trust anybody, he's has not made an effort at all to try and further the game.
 

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Osie's post are entertaining and I liked his reads but I've made a PoE and Ace/Osie is at the top of it and I'm sticking to my guns. And as good as Osie's post are, doesn't make up for the fact that Ace never explained why Soul wasn't scummy. :hint:There are only 3 ppl who weren't on the Soul Train (still funny) and since yah know it's not me, It's Osie/Guillotina. We clear those up, then if necessary look into a possible bussing scenario (which is insane to me. you don't buss your role cop when with one pendulum shift you can push a mislynch)
 

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It is. (Not much to go on since I've only seen scum Rej twice but Rej's scum play isn't this good :x) If he were bussing his teammate for town cred, he'd be making moves with it.
good argument, I never bussed a mate this hard before and if I were to bus then only when I am top poster or super hype active
this would be a super wasted bus

I am sorry for the wifom tho
@TheLukundo @Rej don't lose sight of the goal here. :super:
I agree, I think Luk was either entertained and thus reads Osie town or he is the indie and wants to get rid of me with the help of Osie, but first Osie has to flip as painful as this sounds


thanks Osie for the short fun!
 

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Did I like Guillotina's post today? No. No I did not. ._.
Has another misunderstanding from possibly not reading people's post carefully and goes into defensive OMGUS territory. Also scum reads Osie for what is essentially NAI humour... that was a choice.

Makes a big deal of out being busy, honey we're all busy. I didn't find Osie's post hard to follow cuz I read carefully and just opening up another tab and used the search function for post. Guillotina made it personal by saying Osie is wasting their own precious time, not realizing too Osie has limited time to try to change our minds. And also framed it as Osie trying to sew confusion when really Osie's trying desperately to save his ass. Sewing confusion is something you can do when you sit comfortably on the sidelines pulling the strings. Not when you're defending yourself against the lynch.

But with all of that said. Ace/Osie> Guillotina. He should have been lynched from Day 2. This is an open and shut case. Don't **** it up.
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good argument, I never bussed a mate this hard before and if I were to bus then only when I am top poster or super hype active
this would be a super wasted bus

I am sorry for the wifom tho

I agree, I think Luk was either entertained and thus reads Osie town or he is the indie and wants to get rid of me with the help of Osie, but first Osie has to flip as painful as this sounds


thanks Osie for the short fun!
Also the biggest hole in the bussing a teammate scenario is that bussing is done for town cred. What towncred would you get if you thought votes would be hidden?

:lok:
 
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If the game doesn't end and I die tonight, Guillotina is next.
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I won't be around for Day's end today sadly. :shy: Hope town pulls this off and that my reads are right.
 
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1) Ehh. I don't know many town players whose solving would be significantly sabotaged by anything I've said here.
2) That's fair. I can attempt to be more respectful. I apologize for the pressure I've placed on you. I know that when I believe I have a solution path, like most people, it can result in a degree of tunnel vision.
3) Oh, no, I welcome a Luk answer. My answer will have no impact on Luk's answer though.

1) You being a nosy parker answering questions asked directly to others is one.
2) I dont mind the pressure, no need to apologize for it, but i've caught scum multiple times when they begin answering questions that were asked yo others. If you do this as town, you need to stop doing that.
3) I never sais it would.


3 scum in a 10 player setup is not at all unusual, though. If anything, 2 is a little low without a bit of an awkward power ratio. Standard town:scum ratios are between 22% and 33%.

I mean, it could be and we are at lylo now but 3 scum in a 10 player set up is scum sided and totally unbalanced! If there are 3 scum then we never had a chance and Michelle will need some game set up lessons.


Then why are you so unwilling to consider Rej? You haven't talked about Rej all game. That action speaks quite loudly. Are you protecting Rej for some reason? If you're town, then you have no reason to do so here.

Because the entire players have suspected your slot and somehow you've managed to survive while townies keep falling, your slot needs to get sorted but if we only have today to solve this then, bussing in the only other possibility.

Like i've bussed as scum on Day 1 in difficult games that were townsided by design because it was the only way to win as a deepwolf, Lukundo was in one by the way he can confirm this (High Noon), but if there are three scum like you believe, scum don't need to bus here, they just need 3 mischops. Piece of cake!

But now that i think about it
, It would make sense that Rej or Lukundowould have bussed SK if Rej read the game state and deduced that SK was gonna get the axe.

Is this why you think there gotta be 3 scum?


Also, you said you had collected info forming meta from multiple games. In context, I asked why you were so ready to townread Luk when you had never given a case. You were very certain about townreading Luk. Luk was not an option at all for your PoE.

No it was, like i said, i found it odd how Lukundo engaged with Fait, but it reminded me of the way he pushes and tunnels people as town.

It took multiple times of asking you for detail before you provided detail on one read. Even if you think I'm mafia, you cannot be 100% certain, so actively ignoring requests for detail implicitly states that you refuse to contribute to cooperation between players in the thread. That is anti-town behaviour.

It's true, it is anti-town but I subbed in to this game to help Michelle because she's been there to play my games when i was a host noob and didnt have clout to convince players to play my games. I dont have time to case everyone, i got like an hour to post something here, two if i force myself after work. I believe i'm contributed a lot for what I can give to this game and my ISO is proof of it.

Is it based on thunderdomes that everyone resolves slots? Is it based on thunderdomes that you resolve slots or based on reading the reactions given in those thunderdomes?

I can't speak for the thousands of people that play this game, but thunderdoming is one of my main tactics. I solve based on how the opponent engages with me in those thunderdomes and reacts and NGL, the more i engage with you the more townie you sound and that is perplexing.

I look forward to it, given that if you can provide detailed reads during this day phase, and if you are correct that there is only 2 mafia (which I doubt, but it's possible), then we can quickly eliminate Rej and conclude the game!

That's the problem i cannot provide detail reads! Im off to work in 15 minutes and then i'll comeback to a game that's its already on night phase if we didnt lose it already!

I made links to searches of each user's posts in order. I.e. exactly what one would use to read along. It doesn't take time to follow along post by post in the search. It takes a lot of time to make each post number into a link; this site doesn't have links by post position in the thread. Not to mention, you asked me specifically about the SK analysis. The SK analysis is literally just going post by post through SK's ISO and listing out the number of times each person's name comes up in SK's posts, including quoting people and excluding posts with 0 names, or every player's name. It's a very easy analysis to do on flipped mafia to see who they mention more or less often. When there's a disconnect, it means the players below the disconnect are more likely buddies than not.
 

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Guillo/Osie is either a great theatre or not a team.

This leaves Guillo/Rej or Osie/Rej

@Guillotina

You TR me.

That means you don't think I can be scum.

That also means that you should be thinking mafia is Rej/Osie.

Vote Rej with me
i townread you but i dont know if i can trust your read. I do agree it's gotta be between Rej/Osie or I'm totally misreading you and it's you. Problem is i dont have time to decide, it's gonna be on impulse.
 
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