[Game] Death Note Mafia Game #34
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Why does Fait-Accompli being wrong mean that he is red here? Both you and Elmage G Ace used this reasoning, and it is popular reasoning for reds to use from what I have seen, so I am pretty sure that one of you are red.
I call being clearly wrong an 'unlikable' trait, which also includes like low posting, refusing to give thoughts, and other unpopular stuff that reds like to target greens for, as it is easy content to make, and greens don't really look too hard about who is pushing it.
Being wrong about facts in the game are indicative of how well your memory is, not of your alignment. Pushing that angle is scummy.
I did place a vote on you. I PM-ed Michelle it. I assume that we don't need to do the bold thing, but I'll start doing that again if it helps
Your opinion on meta is mechanic talk, if not very similar to mechanic talk. I feel that you could still understand the point I am trying to make.
To make it vehemently clear, I'll summarize your posts on page 8.
P#148 - Has 4 parts (I should really learn how to multiquote)
Part 1) Mechanic talk (or self-talk)
Part 2) Meta on Elmage G Ace (Ironic)
Part 3) Self-talk (The reasoning that I used to scumread Rej originally when Rej said that she essentially knew that her opening was scummy could be used here as well, except this time I never specifically said that his opening was scummy)
Part 4) This is where I got told that Rej was a guy
P#149 - It's a question, and clearly a good one if 2 other people asked the same thing
P#150 - Fluff
P#151 - An actual opinion is here
P#152 - Multiple parts, but it's all based off of some miscommunication
P#153 - 2 parts
Part 1) Mechanic Talk
Part 2) Another question
P#154 - Mostly Mechanic Talk/Meta
You also said that TheLukundo was town, but this wasn't really elaborated
P#155 - Fluff
P#156 - Mechanic Talk
P#157 - Fluff
So you had some questions but questions can be done by both alignments, thought town can really wow the audience with when they do their followup. If the two questions that you asked were asked by multiple people (both of them were), then I bet that it would not have taken a whole lot of effort to come up with those questions.
It's a lot of talk, but little to show.
Tell me if you disagree with my opinions on your posts
SoulKiller
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I ain't replying to your bold posts I might make a post about it later on if i make it before the DP ends or next DP if i survive. Do quotes next time easier.
Again you are missing the point, every post I make I make for a reason in the beginning is to breed activity and gauge people reaction. Every post is something for me to be able to make judgement and decisions based on how people perceive it so yes whatever you saying is invalid in my opinion.
There is some stuff you mentioned in your bold that pinged me weird and I will address it hopefully if i wake up in time along with my other reads ._. if not then rip man should of not stayed up too late lel.
Did you even finish the entire back and forth? I push to confirm my suspicions ? you push to see if it's bullshit or they truly a townie mistake.
Again you are missing the point, every post I make I make for a reason in the beginning is to breed activity and gauge people reaction. Every post is something for me to be able to make judgement and decisions based on how people perceive it so yes whatever you saying is invalid in my opinion.
Dude, you do realize I make posts on the spot while catching up and if I push for it, it's to see if it's a townie mistake or not, we clearly addressed that at the end of the back and forth, do you read or just come with the assumption that i refuse to believe it was a mistake when I clearly stated otherwise?
Listen man, at this point I am not sure if you playing dumb or not, I simply answered your question of how he plays, I did not town read him or scum read him based on his meta at all and my problem with meta is when it becomes the main center of discussion about something back and forth and gets too deep which happened. So, just drop this it honestly not helping your case at all if you are indeed a townie.
There is some stuff you mentioned in your bold that pinged me weird and I will address it hopefully if i wake up in time along with my other reads ._. if not then rip man should of not stayed up too late lel.
Fait-Accompli
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Fait-Accompli
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A Day later, If I understand this site's terrible quoting system, this is Alice's next post
Denmon posted plenty in that time, what happened to looking into him further?
Fait-Accompli
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My reply to this
[Game] - Death Note Mafia Game #34 | Page 12 | Anime Forum (animebase.me)
Brought up the possibility of what roles ppl would have e.g. Paranoid Bat Owner. Appearing to be productive, but really this is fueling a discussion which cannot amount to anything and helps no one.
Appearing but failing to be productive is bad because its apparently less meaningful than talking about birthdays for multiple posts?
Also me bringing up a role Ive seen before is a hint that Im not new to mafia, but i guess subtlety is a lost cause on the internet.
Me asking Denmon about his scum game less helpful then talking about your birthday? How does knowing about how Denmon describes his playstyle hurt? Im not looking so much for what he says as how he says it. To me, if comes across as if he's got something to hide its because maybe he's hiding something. Aside if you dont like this strategy for scum hunting you should talk to the mod... I stole it from her.
"Not a good look"? In the context of him gut reading me and his lacking a case, added to my prior point taht maybe he has trouble reading me... yes he flips me he looks bad. There's nothing hard about that to understand.
Please note that I will ignore all meta discussing post because it’s easy to have your scum mate lie about your meta ._. I will look at each post with eyes unclouded.
Its not the mere act of suspecting me, As already stated here and after our dustup, I was testing him to even see if he remembered me or if he'd try to lie (more specifically because if he did lie and say I was acting like scum Fait, and Ive never randed scum at MU, Id have caught him, now wouldn't I?) :hehehe:
What bothers me about this is you read this interaction, you dont question Luk or myself about it, but rather write this clap trap either by being misguided and incapable of talking to people or this is fake solving. You feign a definitive case but litter it with hedge words like appearing, looks, not a good look instead of just asking me "hey what did you mean by this" or ask Luk, "what did you think about this, what did you mean here". Instead you just dropped this turd and left to go party or something.
You hunt scum in the most convenient and insincere way possible. My issue is trying to decide if thats by accident or on purpose.
[Game] - Death Note Mafia Game #34 | Page 12 | Anime Forum (animebase.me)
Contrary to Alice, I did not like this post.
Brought up the possibility of what roles ppl would have e.g. Paranoid Bat Owner. Appearing to be productive, but really this is fueling a discussion which cannot amount to anything and helps no one.
Appearing but failing to be productive is bad because its apparently less meaningful than talking about birthdays for multiple posts?
Also me bringing up a role Ive seen before is a hint that Im not new to mafia, but i guess subtlety is a lost cause on the internet.I thought in mafia if people liked your arguments it means that they make sense, but I guess demonstrably followable reasoning and tone means less than one's feelings. The context of this post you quote is that the last time Luk and I dealt with each otehr he murdered me while I was in the middle of showing the posts where i breadcrumbed my town role. All of which was confirmed after my green flip. I was trying to gauge if he remembered this and also see if he could accept the notion that maybe he just cant read me (I believe I even mention that openly in a post, you either missed that or are purposefully misconstruing this one in light of it).Other people liking his post doesn’t mean anything and doesn’t prove anything and shouldn’t be a reason for people not to doubt them. The sentence after that is is the equivalent of “NO YOU!” Also, don’t see how courtesy was relevant in this case. Fait seems overly worked up over a small push in the early pages of Day 1. Not a good look if you ask me.
The post right after this he ask Denmon to describe his scum game which I feel is yet another unhelpful direction to head towards. How would us knowing Denmon’s self explained meta help in this situation. Anyone can say anything they want about their own meta. XD Really weird question that again looks productive, but upon closer analysis reveals itself to be a lead towards a dead end.
I kept reading a bit and the scum vibes exploded in that post which attacks Luk’s capacity as player. It’s not a good look to use “You’ll look like a fool if you’re wrong/you’ll get mocked” as a defense in my eyes because it is akin to gaslighting (by means of belittlement). To his credit, Fait did provide an explanation for his behaviour but I don’t buy it.
I’ve never played with either of these people and I can only go based on what I see in front of my eyes O.O And Fait looks like textbook scum. The final nail in the coffin is this post:
Me asking Denmon about his scum game less helpful then talking about your birthday? How does knowing about how Denmon describes his playstyle hurt? Im not looking so much for what he says as how he says it. To me, if comes across as if he's got something to hide its because maybe he's hiding something. Aside if you dont like this strategy for scum hunting you should talk to the mod... I stole it from her.
"Not a good look"? In the context of him gut reading me and his lacking a case, added to my prior point taht maybe he has trouble reading me... yes he flips me he looks bad. There's nothing hard about that to understand.
It is a complete 180 from the previous post where he was basically insulting Luk for the mere act of suspecting him and it reveals that he is worried about how he is perceived and staying within the range of what he believes is his town meta. True townie doesn’t have to worry about their meta.
Please note that I will ignore all meta discussing post because it’s easy to have your scum mate lie about your meta ._. I will look at each post with eyes unclouded.
Its not the mere act of suspecting me, As already stated here and after our dustup, I was testing him to even see if he remembered me or if he'd try to lie (more specifically because if he did lie and say I was acting like scum Fait, and Ive never randed scum at MU, Id have caught him, now wouldn't I?) :hehehe:
What bothers me about this is you read this interaction, you dont question Luk or myself about it, but rather write this clap trap either by being misguided and incapable of talking to people or this is fake solving. You feign a definitive case but litter it with hedge words like appearing, looks, not a good look instead of just asking me "hey what did you mean by this" or ask Luk, "what did you think about this, what did you mean here". Instead you just dropped this turd and left to go party or something.
You hunt scum in the most convenient and insincere way possible. My issue is trying to decide if thats by accident or on purpose.
Thestatusquo
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as i said, i'm not saying you two are the team right now. but what made me point that out is because of your luk vs fait post where you seemed to imply fait was scummy for his actions (just because he talked about meta) but you never really made a big point about him being scum off of it. basically complaining about his actions, saying they are scummy but you didn't call him scum for it, even though you wrote a lot about it.
i do remember you making a similar post about meta in other games too that would probably help me feel more confident about it in some sort of way, but i can't remember which one it was (or what alignment you were) and i don't really have the time to be surfing games aimlessly.
and then i re-read your earlier posts and placed a vote because you seemed to be struggling with reads and your catchup failed to deliver (imo)
Thestatusquo
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this whole post reads to me as if you're saying fait is scum but you aren't actually calling him ever a scum for it.
and it's a bit iioa-y too.
read like a partnery interaction in the sense that you aren't calling him scum for it but you wanna be seen like you are pushing him somehow, although that's not really what's happening, it's just you write a bunch of words on him with emotion.
also have a few issues with your progression on luk and denmon but i haven't really paid that much attention to where i can point it out with posts and such... let's just say that your luk read came out of nowhere / there wasn't much of a progression that I could follow, you kinda just put it inside the fait vs luk thing. feel free to prove me wrong if i didn't get it right, but i'm pretty sure that's all you had on luk, and there were no previous posts where you actually said anything important about him.
Third paragraph, where you mention the wording, is something that I do all the time, less so now, but my older games were plagued with such vocab. I think it is just the player's word choice and not AI
I don't understand where the confusion is coming from tbh.
Where did you come to the conclusion that it was a townie mistake?
Third paragraph, I guess what I am trying to say is that you are posting to get responses, but since they aren't AI, then idk how much information you are trying to get, if that makes any more sense. Like if you called someone out as red for some post then you could pursue that cause that is good stuff, but you weren't really doing that until later in the phase, and even then, it was meh.
Also wdym what I am saying is invalid? You make posts for people to react to, and I'm reacting to them, so what's up with that
You're right on the last paragraph though. I was rushing so I missed the context. The point doesn't change though
Fait-Accompli
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My impression so far.. this is a general take, wont be many specifics. Almost like a ... meta of sorts 
(you like that Michelle... hmm? lol)
(you like that Michelle... hmm? lol)