I would've loved to see Penguin and/or Riddler. I don't really like Killer Croc, not really a fan of brute strength and unintelligent villains.
And I believed that the plot was excellent. And there were so many great scenes. The football scene (Steelers ftw!) Batman's "death," the scene at the bank (when Bruce first returned to being Batman), and of course the airplane scene in the beginning. I personally liked the climb scene mainly because of the prisoners' chant. But 5 out of 10 is such a low rating, you said that it was a good movie and worth paying for, so surely you must mean at least a 7, right? I can even accept that low rating but I can't possibly agree with the Avengers being better than this; I liked the Avengers, but it very over-hyped; nothing about it really stood out aside from the action.
Why? For the benefit of others? If you just went with the movie without looking out for places to give/take points wouldn't it have been more fun? I don't get this... :|
I don't think that anyone really goes to theaters wanting to take points away from a movie (at least I don't), just kinda happens when you reflect on a movie after you watch it as opposed to watching it and never thinking about it again lol. And why not? Discussing a movie is a good way to have a nice conversation.
Hmm... I agree with most of that actually, even my rating of it. Maybe I did rate it too low, a 7 sounds good. However I still believe it is overrated.I'll just put this all in a spoiler so no one complains about it.
I can agree with saying that it wasn't as good as the Dark Knight, but I can't agree with your statement (in one of those posts) that it wasn't as good as the Avengers at all. The Avengers was EXTREMELY overrated and completely dependent on fight scenes and occasional comedy. My major problem with the Avengers was that Loki really didn't do much of anything in the movie; he was getting slapped around constantly and never really gave off that awesome feel like he did in Thor (in which he was the only outstanding part of that movie to me personally). And I didn't feel like anyone's acting was actually all that intense.
Now as far as this movie, again, I'm not sure if I liked it better than the Dark Knight, but it was truly an amazing movie. Bane's voice in my opinion was perfect and the actor that played him was great. Bane's voice shouldn't have been completely clear anyway, they had to insinuate how drugged up he was while also giving him a booming, commanding voice with an amount of sophistication in it, which is what they did perfectly.
The Talia Al Gul thing had to happen simply because it was part of the comics. That was more of a matter of all of the comic book fans who saw the movie that would be angry about the trilogy ending and them revealing Talia without them showing that she was a villain. As far as her acting... meh, the movie had enough great actors for me to get over that.
The Batman dying thing I can agree with you. Honestly... with that set-up I would have liked if Bruce died, it just kind of killed the moment seeing him return.
But a 5 out of 10!? That's insane. Bane's performance was brilliant, so was Catwoman's. Christian Bale was good (not great, but good), and personally, some people may not agree with me on this, I believe that the guy who played Alfred was great as well. Oh and Morgan Freeman is always awesome of course just because he's Morgan Freeman.
Not being as good as the Dark Knight though, I can agree with only because Heath Ledger was just unbelievably awesome. But in a way I don't really care which one was better; the Dark Knight Rises still had great things in it that the Dark Knight didn't, namely Bane and Catwoman. But I really, really hoped that Riddler would make a cameo somewhere in these movies. Throughout the trilogy the only think that I didn't feel like we got enough of from Batman was his ability as an ingenious detective. I mean we did get it, but I didn't feel like it was ever really emphasized.
hmmm... I guess you're right... but when we discuss it it's more about what we liked and didn't like... I still wouldn't rate it... I guess it's just different for everyone...
:y that was awesome!
I really didn't have much trouble understanding Bane's voice to be honest. It was distorted of course, but as you said, it was a great voice to give him. But I really never had any moments where I really couldn't understand him. There was the occasional moment where I'd miss a word or two but that was usually because of someone else in the theater talking.
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Yes, Hans Zimmer is just so, so good. He was the one who conducted/created Pirates of the Caribbean's music, if I'm not mistaken.I really didn't have much trouble understanding Bane's voice to be honest. It was distorted of course, but as you said, it was a great voice to give him. But I really never had any moments where I really couldn't understand him. There was the occasional moment where I'd miss a word or two but that was usually because of someone else in the theater talking.
The kiss scene isn't what I was talking about with my point on Catwoman. The kiss scene was unimportant to me really, as was her marrying Bruce. The moments that she impressed me were scenes like the one in the bar and in the airport when she was taken for a short interrogation. And of course the ballroom scene. It was a short one, but I liked it.
As for the Avengers. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie and had a lot of fun seeing it, but when I heard about it from my friends before watching I was expecting awesome villains (yeah that was the other thing, the fact that there was only one named villain was a bit of a let down to), intense scenes, and amazing action scenes. When really I only saw the amazing action scenes. The comedy was good and there were plenty of laughable moments, but it took away from how intense the movie could have been. The entire Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy was just one incredibly intense movie after another. And the villains were consistently great and always took the movie to the next level (Scarecrow, Ra's, Joker, Bane--all great performances with Joker a cut, or a few cuts, above the rest). Both of which (intense scenes and awesome villains) I didn't really get in the Avengers, even when everything was blowing up the movie still felt lighthearted, probably because of all of the comedy. And of course it was always predictable. But that's just me, and I can certainly see why people liked it, I had fun watching it myself. But I don't thin that we'll be seeing eye-to-eye on this and I'd hate to ruin your view of the movie with all of my pessimistic views on it so I'll leave it at that.
Oh, and the one thing that I forgot to say, as always, Hans Zimmer made an awesome score.
I don't think that he did all of them but I do believe that he did the first one, including that main theme that everyone instantly recognizes. He's conducted plenty of things, all of them great (at least as far as the soundtrack). This entire trilogy (maybe not Batman Begins, not sure), Lion King, Inception, the list goes on for that guy. Truly a genius.
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I agree with you to a certain extent. I agree with 1, 2, 3, and 5, I was okay with the other points. I enjoyed it, but it being over Dark Knight is just wrong. Dark Knight really was one of the best movies I've ever seen.
