Danzo was the most selfish and the biggest coward. Undeniable FACTS and PROOF!

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I will prove this to you, here and now! Just try and refute even a single point in this thread!

If you think Danzo was some kind of hero or even an anti-hero, this thread will finally open your eyes, read the whole thread, or don't bother arguing, I worked hard to make you people finally see the light.

Only someone who has missed the point of Danzos character can say he wanted to protect the leaf at heart.....cuz that is a sackload of shit....let me tell you why....

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What Danzo wanted to protect^ as you can concur from that image, was his own ideal!!

He was against the teachings of Senju Hashirama! The man who started the hidden leaf and protected it with his principles, passing them on to those who loved the village and believed in that principle....The Will of Fire!

All his efforts went towards usurping the Hokage seat, so he could enforce his own ideals and discard the teachings of the man who founded Konoha.

And he couldn't even do it himself! You see, Danzo was a coward! Yes, a useless, spineless coward who used other people to achieve his motives...

He was a preacher of self sacrifice, and yet:
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So why couldn't he "say it"?

And moreover....:
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.....why did his trembling stop? Why was he relieved that Hiruzen said it?

Because, on the inside, in his true nature, Danzo was truly a coward, a spineless bitch!

He was the glorified preacher of self sacrifice all his life....and yet....the only people who were sacrificed, were the members in his organisation, example: Fuu and Torune, and probably countless others!

Danzo never cared for the village!!
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"Youre always one step ahead of me Hiruzen"

The most important thing for Danzo, was to catch up to Hiruzen. Which completely explains his LAST WORDS to himself, his true intentions:
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Danzo's life's ambition was to get on Hiruzens level. Which he obviously couldn't do on his own...so he....

Ripped out Shisuis eye for Kotoamatsukami.
Made Orochimaru implant Shodaimes cells in him.
The worst of all....he made Itachi destroy his own clan and took their eyes for Izanagi( A jutsu that lets you cheat death, he knew he would need it because of his own incompetence). Also...Izanagi was set up to be used 10 frikking times! And I also ask you this....did Danzo seem like the type of person who accepted his true self? Cuz only those that cannot, use Izanagi.

You: oh oh but in that last image he also said "for the sake of the village I cannot let you live"! He sacrificed his life...

You are wrong....
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You see....even in a room full of Kage, Danzo chose to flee from Sasuke. Later on, Tobi caught up with him, who just wouldn't let him run away. So...Danzo had no choice but to fight, cuz trust me, that coward would have rather fled but he thought he was dealing with Madara, so he knew there was no escape. Hehe

Danzo didn't try and stop Madara and Sasuke because of some sense of loyalty to Konoha, HE WAS FORCED TO FIGHT!

Danzo was a self righteous, self centred, coward of a man, who made the youth give up their lives for him.

The only reason he even stepped out of his underground sewer, was to trick Mifune into choosing him as the supreme leader of the alliance, but the other Kages wouldn't have that, cuz they knew what kind of untrustworthy, garbage he was! They even suspected him of plotting the murder of noble Hiruzen. Which was also probably true...

Last thing you would say: oh oh but he saved Naruto by killing the frog when Pain came, that was a decision befitting a shinobi....
Wrong again:
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You see Danzo never protected anything, except himself ofcourse, what he wanted to protect was the tailed beast inside Naruto from Akatsuki, so that he could have it for himself!

This was Danzo's true ideology, and it has nothing to do with protecting Konoha, see for yourself:

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I am the only savior of the world? Other's must be sacrificed for that reason, so I can live? :eek:

How many other, KONOHA Shinobi's did Danzo sacrifice for that same reason? Countless nameless Shinobi! Sai would have been one too!

Even the writer of the manga gave Danzo what he deserved towards the end of his life:

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Painful death! 10 times over! And a walk of shame and cowardice for the redemption of the Uchiha.



So there you have it....
 

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Danzo is responsible for
Making Nagato evil by helping Hanzo betray him and kill Yahiko
Turning Orochimaru into a sociopath by erasing his emotions in ANBU
turning Kabuto evil (and leading to the ressurection of Madara who wants to destroy the world)
the destruction of the uchiha clan
 
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Everything you said is true ^^. However what he did, he hid it because he wanted to protect the Village.
How can you even say that after reading my thread?! I feel insulted. I just showed you that he wanted to build his own Konoha with his own ideals, that is proved by the very first image!

How how can you say that? He cared for no one but himself!
 

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Everything you said is true ^^. However what he did, he hid it because he wanted to protect the Village.
Doesnt warrant it in the least; Nagato was prepared to more or less destroy the freakin world (by setting up what would be equivalent to a nuclear world war with the Bijuu weapons) because he wanted peace. The end does not justify the means if the means is complete and utter fcked up bs.
 

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No.

No matter what you just said, even in Danzo's final moments, were for Konoha. Manga fact.
Many characters have said many things in the manga. Should we believe all of them too?

Danzo said he was doing it for Konoha in his final moment, but the next page shows what he was actually thinking!

You cannot refute even one single point in this thread, saying I am wrong proves nothing but your own ignorance!
 
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You missed the plot man
this is a biased thread because in your thread you are clearly downplaying him
you worked hard but failed
It is actually you who missed the point.

Many people like to think they are smart when they say he did it for the village and had good intentions for Konoha at heart.

They are the one's who failed to see him for what he truly was! I have proved and exposed his selfish and dark ideals here, in this thread.

You cannot oppose even a single point that I made. BTW I am not biased towards anyone, I love all and hate only those who truly deserve it.
 

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Danzo was a true ninja. He wasnt a coward,he had the courage to do things everyone else couldnt. He wasnt into all that emotion stuff,he knew how to handle a problem right away instead of waiting for shit to happen because of the "will of fire".
Example: tsunade refused to declare Sasuke a rogue nin giving him the possibility to do anything he pleased because she believed in Naruto.
That caused Sasuke to join the Akatsuki,attack the Gokage summit,attack Kumogakure and shit. If Danzo was hokage he would have Sasuke killed and period. Danzo knew how to solve problems right away before it gets worse and even though his methods are different a person like him is always neccesary to do the things other people were scared to do. If he was such a nuisance as you described him to be then he wouldnt be allowed to live,let alone be on a high position in Konoha. Everyone was like omg Danzo is a cruel evil man shame on him etc. but deep down they knew that they needed someone to do their dirty work. Danzo was willing to accept the hate of the Shinobi world if it was for the greater good. And he wanted to become Hokage so badly because he thought that it would be for the better of the world,not because he was selfish. Remember that Hiruzen's Will of fire blinded him from the right thing to do,he didnt kill Orochimaru which caused the destruction of Konoha in part one and ultimately his own death so he was also coward. You hate Danzo very much and therefore cant see the other part of the story,going so far to the lenght of saying that the manga is wrong and you are right.
 

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Danzo was a true ninja. He wasnt a coward,he had the courage to do things everyone else couldnt. He wasnt into all that emotion stuff,he knew how to handle a problem right away instead of waiting for shit to happen because of the "will of fire".
Example: tsunade refused to declare Sasuke a rogue nin giving him the possibility to do anything he pleased because she believed in Naruto.
That caused Sasuke to join the Akatsuki,attack the Gokage summit,attack Kumogakure and shit. If Danzo was hokage he would have Sasuke killed and period. Danzo knew how to solve problems right away before it gets worse and even though his methods are different a person like him is always neccesary to do the things other people were scared to do. If he was such a nuisance as you described him to be then he wouldnt be allowed to live,let alone be on a high position in Konoha. Everyone was like omg Danzo is a cruel evil man shame on him etc. but deep down they knew that they needed someone to do their dirty work. Danzo was willing to accept the hate of the Shinobi world if it was for the greater good. And he wanted to become Hokage so badly because he thought that it would be for the better of the world,not because he was selfish. Remember that Hiruzen's Will of fire blinded him from the right thing to do,he didnt kill Orochimaru which caused the destruction of Konoha in part one and ultimately his own death so he was also coward. You hate Danzo very much and therefore cant see the other part of the story,going so far to the lenght of saying that the manga is wrong and you are right.
You talk as if Danzo did those things, he forced others to do those things, which always led to his own profit in some sick twisted way!

Let me also tell you why Danzo wanted Sasuke dead. After Itachi's death, he knew Madara would approach him and tell him the truth to get him on his side, so he was afraid that Sasuke would come after him for revenge, and that is exactly what happened and Danzo got what he deserved.

You have to ask yourself, why did Tobi know Danzo and mention the Uchiha incident when they met for the first time in the manga?

Why did Tobi know everything about Itachi?

Danzo and Tobi were in cahoots! Heck, Danzo helped Tobi get Nagato on his side, which makes me think that the Kyuubi incident was for Danzo's profit too, just like Orochimaru's invasion.
 

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yeah you're right. I think he didn't love Konoha as it was, but more the Konoha he wanted built by his ideals. he forbade the anbu from helping out when pain invaded, because having the citizens die meant tsunade losing followers.

his objectives were centered around himself getting out of hiruzen's shadow and imposing his ideals on the shinobi world
 
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Oh really?
This is not kishi saying something about danzo

this is you a normal manga reader who is trying to mould manga words and facts into his opinions and proving some bs which is moot
this is your opinion and no manga fact so before you act smart and all almighty and also sound cocky with your ignorant thread
lets call it an end :)
 

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yeah you're right. I think he didn't love Konoha as it was, but more the Konoha he wanted built by his ideals. he forbade the anbu from helping out when pain invaded, because having the citizens die meant tsunade losing followers.

his objectives were centered around himself getting out of hiruzen's shadow and imposing his ideals on the shinobi world
This^ is exactly what he wanted!! I could not have said it better!

Oh really?
This is not kishi saying something about danzo

this is you a normal manga reader who is trying to mould manga words and facts into his opinions and proving some bs which is moot
this is your opinion and no manga fact so before you act smart and all almighty and also sound cocky with your ignorant thread
lets call it an end :)
So you want to give up because all you have is your own opinion and no evidence like I do? Figures
 

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Well, in the end, Danzo used his last resort to try to kill Sasuke.

You can't say that he didn't die like a true ninja.

He even crushed Shisui's eye so the likes of Tobi couldn't take it.

I do really believe he wanted to protect the village, just in a... psychologically disturbing way.
 

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Well, in the end, Danzo used his last resort to try to kill Sasuke.

You can't say that he didn't die like a true ninja.

He even crushed Shisui's eye so the likes of Tobi couldn't take it.

I do really believe he wanted to protect the village, just in a... psychologically disturbing way.
But I just showed you in my thread that Danzo never meant to fight Sasuke or Madara, he was forced to!

And he lost, he was bound to die, so he pulled out his last resort and said something flashy while thinking something completely different! It's all in the thread, also read the bold part in post # 16 to see what he really wanted!
 

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Danzo felt the previous kages teachings were weak and foolish. He wanted to b in charge of the village so he could in his own opinion make it a stronger and safer place. He thought his ideals were better for the village sooooo he used his entire life to try to slither into power so he could help the village . Asshat. Watch the episode danzo died in. He had a heros death. Watch it dont read it. The one thing that could be argued he did to not benefit the village was hide during the pain attack. And even then. He knew villagers would survive. And they would need him to lead to get them strong again. And the root to protect them. Ut arguments are invalid and biased
 
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