Current Naruto in SM vs Current Sasuke with MS.

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Again with GG amaterasu?

Naruto can not only sense it coming, but he can also, in this form, use as many clones as he wants to.

The toad fusing is not fan fiction, it's something he can and should logically be able to do since Kurama is not hostile and it is restricted.

Magatama? Sasuke has 3 huge toads to deal with first. Frog song is not necessary since Sasuke will have to deal with a barrage of rasengans from Naruto's clones, 3 huge toads and Rasenshuriken.

Sasuke isn't outlasting nor 1shotting Naruto.

Sense it, and then what?

Manga fact or an assumption? It's restricted then yes, this logic can be applied for match's sake. Outside it? No, not without evidence.

Put one large toad under three Tomoe Genjutsu and the rest would be much easier to deal with. Yes, because Rasangans have clearly broken through Susano'o.
 

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Stop. blabbering. Did you see a human running so fast so that you can't keep your eyes on him?
Especially when you see him running in slow motion as the Sharingan allows it. You calling it a manga fact that Itachi couldn't keep his eyes on Sasuke who merely ran away, srsly dude, something must be wrong with your logic.

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This fight was fully planned and faked by Itachi, he wasted techniques on purpose to reach his limit faster, even stopped taking his essential drug to drain his stamina. Amaterasu already proved to hit targets instantly by the user aiming at it and yet you insist on the fight of Itachi against Sasuke being a canonical source showing Amaterasu's limits.
What is with this instant nonsense. If you have time to react, then it is not instant. You discredit my logic when you have just have just contradicted yourself
1. You said Itachi couldn't focus on Sasuke
2. You stated Ama is instant

First of all if Itachi couldn't focus on Sasuke, then how did get caught when you need to focus on your target? As you can see in that chapter Ama isnt instant as the flame was catching up to Sasuke or travel if you would. Your post does not take away that Sasuke dodged it and that it took it chasing him to be caught
 

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I never contradicted myself and you talk bs. As this discussion turns in circles, I don't have the desire to continue this.
In the Manga, Naruto at the level of a Sage admitted inferiority to MS Sasuke. There is nothing that has more weight.
 

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^ Itachi's eye-sight was literally ****ed up as he couldn't even see Sasuke; he appeared as a hazy figure to him in one scan. Go re-read the manga as at this point, if anyone takes you even least bit seriously than he's an idiot.
 

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What is with this instant nonsense. If you have time to react, then it is not instant. You discredit my logic when you have just have just contradicted yourself
1. You said Itachi couldn't focus on Sasuke
2. You stated Ama is instant

First of all if Itachi couldn't focus on Sasuke, then how did get caught when you need to focus on your target? As you can see in that chapter Ama isnt instant as the flame was catching up to Sasuke or travel if you would. Your post does not take away that Sasuke dodged it and that it took it chasing him to be caught

Holy fu**, dont you understand that itachi wasnt aiming actually to sasuke? The fight was faked from the set go, we dont really know how much of his strength itachi used in the battle, but we do know that he didnt want to kill sasuke, plus the fact that he was as blind as ms sasuke vs kakashi.

Doesnt change the fact sasuke loses tho, one bunshin and that leaves sasuke having to waste his precious ms on a 50-50, and naruto can make thousands at the same time with a simple hand seal, therefore sasuke cannot one-shot him. Ama is instant, but the eye-bleed happens right before the flames appear, in that split second, a bunch of clones have already appeared. The eye-bleed was as well the reason why V1 A dodged it, since his shunshin is only rivaled by Minato's or KCM Naruto's.
 

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Sense it, and then what?

Create 100 clones and good luck hitting the real one.

Put one large toad under three Tomoe Genjutsu

While the others are lashing out at him, yeah. Good luck using Amaterasu, Susanoo and genjutsu at the same time.
 

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Again with the Amaterasu.

Amaterasu travels. Meaning the farther away from Sasuke Naruto is, the better chance of dodging he has. Given proper distance, Naruto can dodge it. The sweet spot is around the distance Sasuke was from Itachi when he dodged it for a undeniable dodge.
 

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Again with the Amaterasu.
We are only dragging this on because people are saying that Sm Naruto can dodge it.U_U
Amaterasu travels.
Such nonsense Amaterasu spawns on the victim, it doesn't travel didn't you see Amaterasu spawn on Ay's after image during the fight?
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We are only dragging this on because people are saying that Sm Naruto can dodge it.U_U

Such nonsense Amaterasu spawns on the victim, it doesn't travel didn't you see Amaterasu spawn on Ay's after image during the fight?
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It spawns on the victim, yet that scan clearly shows that it spawned on Ay and then it somehow hit a samurai behind him?
 

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We are only dragging this on because people are saying that Sm Naruto can dodge it.U_U



Such nonsense Amaterasu spawns on the victim, it doesn't travel didn't you see Amaterasu spawn on Ay's after image during the fight?
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I got Ninja'd.

Amaterasu was focused on A but continued on to the Samurai. Zetsu's description of the Jutsu also uses "Converges on the Target"

Definition of Converge:
1. to tend to meet in a point or line; incline toward each other, as lines that are not parallel.
2. to tend to a common result, conclusion, etc.
 

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It spawns on the victim, yet that scan clearly shows that it spawned on Ay and then it somehow hit a samurai behind him?

Think for once, Ay moved away from amaterasu.Instead of hitting A y it hit a fodder nin who was RIGHT BEHIND HIM.

By the time Ay moved Sasuke was still looking in that direction before he realised Ay was gone.Can't believe i had to go through something so basic.
 
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Think for once, Ay moved away from amaterasu.Instead of hitting A y it hit a fodder nin who was RIGHT BEHIND HIM.

By the time Ay moved Sasuke was still looking in that direction before he realised Ay was gone.Can't believe i had to go through something so basic.

If it spawns on the target then it wouldn't have moved after Ay had moved from that spot.
 

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This shit still goes on? Even if they don't know each others powers, Sasuke still wins this becauase he has Enton and Amaterasu to his advantages. There isn't any known counter I know of for blacks flames. It's that simple.
 

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This shit still goes on? Even if they don't know each others powers, Sasuke still wins this becauase he has Enton and Amaterasu to his advantages. There isn't any known counter I know of for blacks flames. It's that simple.

There are a lot of counters for Amaterasu, actually.

1. sealing

2. S/T ninjutsu

Naruto hasn't got either, but he can clone feint it.
 

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There are a lot of counters for Amaterasu, actually.

1. sealing

2. S/T ninjutsu

Naruto hasn't got either, but he can clone feint it.

I've seriously gave up on this thread lol.
 
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It seems going on is futile.Believe what you wanna believe random member.

Random memeber? Your arguing with Logic. If it spawns on the target then it wouldn't have moved, if it travels then then after A moved Ama would continue forward.
 

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Random memeber? Your arguing with Logic. If it spawns on the target then it wouldn't have moved, if it travels then then after A moved Ama would continue forward.

It spawned on whatever Sasuke is looking at.
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Ay Shunshined out of the way and where was Sasuke looking? At the spot Ay was before he used the jutsu.
His line of site did not change.
 
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