Current Naruto in SM vs Current Sasuke with MS.

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OP says Naruto can't use Kurama's Chakra and the Sage Mode is not for eternity. His nature Chakra has run out once against Pain and his clones at Myoboku were used, too. There's no reason why he shouldn't have used his thousand clones at every time if it was useful enough to kill 4 paths without a markable defense. When against Madara, he however made use of a large portion of Kurama's Chakra to stop Madara's Mokuton technique with a Rasengan barrage and was then already exhausted. Here however, Kurama's Chakra is restricted. It is Naruto with the power of the Sage Mode.


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At this time, Naruto already mastered the Sage Mode and could enter it by himself. [ ] + the following page [ ]
MS Sasuke is a level above SM Naruto.

Oh my bad, I never knew the Kyuubi's chakra was restricted, I've changed my mind.

Btw, it doesn't say that in the viz scan.
 

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Show me a picture of Amaterasu hitting a moving target faster than SM Naruto please.

What does this post prove? Nothing.Amaterasu hasn't even killed anyone in the manga does that mean it can't kill?
Its basic knowledge that a shunshin technique that rivals V2 Ay's can dodge Amaterasu.

The fact that you can't comprehend this is worrying, but lets play this fun game shall we.
Show me a scan of any Sm user dodging Amaterasu because Sm users only have good reflexes but don't have the necessary speed to dodge Amaterasu.
 

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Show me a picture of Amaterasu hitting a moving target faster than SM Naruto please.
Since when does SM Naruto have the speed to outrun the Sharingan's sight? It's almost like you compare his speed to the maximum of A's.
 

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What does this post prove? Nothing.Amaterasu hasn't even killed anyone in the manga does that mean it can't kill?
Its basic knowledge that a shunshin technique that rivals V2 Ay's can dodge Amaterasu.

The fact that you can't comprehend this is worrying, but lets play this fun game shall we.
Show me a scan of any Sm user dodging Amaterasu because Sm users only have good reflexes but don't have the necessary speed to dodge Amaterasu.

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What does this post prove? Nothing.Amaterasu hasn't even killed anyone in the manga does that mean it can't kill?
Its basic knowledge that a shunshin technique that rivals V2 Ay's can dodge Amaterasu.

The fact that you can't comprehend this is worrying, but lets play this fun game shall we.
Show me a scan of any Sm user dodging Amaterasu because Sm users only have good reflexes but don't have the necessary speed to dodge Amaterasu.

You aren't factoring in the fact that Ay couldn't sense Amaterasu and had no knowledge on it so his shunshin was a last pitch effort, whereas Naruto can sense it and has extremely fast speed.

Amaterasu only hit Danzo and Nagato, both of whom were old/crippled and lacked the speed/reasons to dodge it. Even Sasuke was able to avoid it for a while and don't bring the '' Itachi wasn't trying '' crap, because he still hit him.

I can show you a scan of a SM Jiraiya ( whose SM is inferior to Naruto's ) blitzing Pain ( Rinnegan which is > Sharingan ) twice, which is what you need to do to dodge Amaterasu. Run out of the eyesight of a sharingan user.

Plus, Naruto can clone feint it.
 
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Naruto can sense it and has extremely fast speed.
That's so ridiculous. When did Jiraiya blitz a path? Ningendo was like fodder and tried to come in close combat with Jiraiya. It was to be expected that Ningendo couldn't stand a chance. I just need to watch the fight of Naruto against Pain to see that they were actually equal in speed. Pain was never blitzed by Naruto; thanks to the linked vision, Naruto couldn't even hit Gakido until he used his frog Kata and also needed to attack Pain artful multiple times to catch him in close combat. Naruto extremely fast speed? Fast enough to escape the Sharingan's sight and to dodge Amaterasu? LMAO!
 
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That's so ridiculous. When did Jiraiya blitz a path? Ningendo was like fodder and tried to come in close combat with Jiraiya. It was expected that Ningendo couldn't stand a chance. I just need to watch the fight of Naruto against Pain to see that they were actually equal in speed. Pain was never blitzed by Naruto; thanks to the linked vision, Naruto couldn't even hit Gakido until he used his frog Kata and also needed to attack Pain artful multiple times to catch him in close combat. Naruto extremely fast speed? Fast enough to escape the Sharingan's sight and to dodge Amaterasu? LMAO!

It surpasses most shinobi, so yeah. Extremely.

Sasuke is described as having ''Godlike'' speed in the databook so I don't see the issue here.

Doesn't change the fact that Amaterasu only ever hit crippled targets while Sasuke could dodge it, even without sensing it.

That's so ridiculous. When did Jiraiya blitz a path? Ningendo was like fodder

Both Preta and Human.

And no, all paths should theoretically be equal in speed and taijutsu. They are dead bodies, not shinobi. The only thing that separates them is the Rinnegan technique they possess.
 
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Sasuke never dodged Amaterasu. He tried to outrun Itachi's sight with foot speed while Itachi visibly lengthened the usage of his Amaterasu. Naruto's speed was somewhere equal to Pain's and though his reflexes are well placed, he cannot dodge Amaterasu, that's a fact considering the Sharingan's abilities and how Amaterasu works. The Manga also visualized that even Kabuto's speed couldn't prevent him from being hit by Amaterasu if one's going to aim for him so the sense of danger alone is not enough.
 

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Sasuke never dodged Amaterasu. He tried to outrun Itachi's sight with foot speed while Itachi visibly lengthened the usage of his Amaterasu. Naruto's speed was somewhere equal to Pain's and though his reflexes are well placed, he cannot dodge Amaterasu, that's a fact considering the Sharingan's abilities and how Amaterasu works. The Manga also visualized that even Kabuto's speed couldn't prevent him from being hit by Amaterasu if one's going to aim for him so the sense of danger alone is not enough.


He did dodge Ama
 

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He did dodge Ama
You don't need to be smart to understand that this scene was faked by Itachi and that someone has to explain that to you is actually a pity. The Sharingan predict movements and to cast Amaterasu on a target, you only need to aim for him. You just really believe that Sasuke could've outrun Itachi's sight with foot speed when A, who already used his Raiton armor had to increase his speed up to its maximum to prevent form being hit by Amaterasu by escaping from his sight. But if that's a canon source for you, I have nothing more to say to you.
 

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You don't need to be smart to understand that this scene was faked by Itachi and that someone has to explain that to you is actually a pity. The Sharingan predict movements and to cast Amaterasu on a target, you only need to aim for him. You just really believe that Sasuke could've outrun Itachi's sight with foot speed when A, who already used his Raiton armor had to increase his speed up to its maximum to prevent form being hit by Amaterasu by escaping from his sight. But if that's a canon source for you, I have nothing more to say to you.

Isn't that what he was doing, aiming his sight? Proof that it was faked?
Bottom line is he dodged it, hence why Ama was burning around them and why it had to catch up to him
 

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You don't need to be smart to understand that this scene was faked by Itachi and that someone has to explain that to you is actually a pity. The Sharingan predict movements and to cast Amaterasu on a target, you only need to aim for him. You just really believe that Sasuke could've outrun Itachi's sight with foot speed when A, who already used his Raiton armor had to increase his speed up to its maximum to prevent form being hit by Amaterasu by escaping from his sight. But if that's a canon source for you, I have nothing more to say to you.

People use alot of sasuke Vs Itachi as evidence even though it was a beautifully acted fight by itachi.

Proof that it was faked?
Bottom line is he dodged it, hence why Ama was burning around them and why it had to catch up to him
The part where itachi never tried to kill him should give you a hint.
 

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Yeah, I changed my mind again. Ms Sasuke still wins this match.
 

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People use alot of sasuke Vs Itachi as evidence even though it was a beautifully acted fight by itachi.


The part where itachi never tried to kill him should give you a hint.

Yet ppl agree that Naruto blitzed Itachi, nice logic :|

He still dodged it, it's manga fact bro
There is no proof that Itachi didn't try to catch Sasuke. He wasn't trying to kill him, now that's a fact
Ama doesn't kill; fact
 

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He still dodged it, it's manga fact bro
There is no proof that Itachi didn't try to catch Sasuke. He wasn't trying to kill him, now that's a fact
Ama doesn't kill; fact
Stop. blabbering. Did you see a human running so fast so that you can't keep your eyes on him?
Especially when you see him running in slow motion as the Sharingan allows it. You calling it a manga fact that Itachi couldn't keep his eyes on Sasuke who merely ran away, srsly dude, something must be wrong with your logic.

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This fight was fully planned and faked by Itachi, he wasted techniques on purpose to reach his limit faster, even stopped taking his essential drug to drain his stamina. Amaterasu already proved to hit targets instantly by the user aiming at it and yet you insist on the fight of Itachi against Sasuke being a canonical source showing Amaterasu's limits.
 

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Yes, because Amaterasu clearly didn't Kill Danzo, Nagato - reduced him to mere bones, actually - or his summons, and completely incapacitated Hachibi. The only reason why Amaterasu didn't make contact to Ae's flesh was because of two reasons, one of which was brought to my notice by NinthGate:

- Ae pumped Bijuu level chakra into his claok. Karin attested to this, as she and Chee pointed out his constant rising chakra reserves.
- Sasuke's Amaterasu spawned out of focus because of his weakening eye-sight, as it spawned slightly in front of Ae rather than on him. We remember Sasuke couldn't touch the glass earlier and it shattered to the ground.

SM Naruto is hit, quite easily.
 
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