[Discussion] crocodile owns donflamingo 1 vs 1

[Uzumaki Macho]

Crocodile's strong, but we haven't seen anything from him to suggest he could beat Doflamingo. I don't think it would be an easy fight by any means, but Doflamingo takes it mid-high diff at this point. I have no doubt Croc will come back post-skip and be much stronger than he was before.

The Croc wank is strong in this one.

 

[Praydara]

The Croc wank is strong in this one.

Relax, I said Crocodile loses.

 

[VongolaX]

No u dont seem to get the GL level and the NW level, but im not going to bother discussing about it since u wouldnt understand anyway.

Haki is needed to defeat logia fighters, and haki is needed to enhance attacks to make greater damage, he didnt die at marineford because he was never targeted by anyone significant at all the only time he got the attention of an stronger fighter he got blitzed by Jozu and only got saved by doflamingo, if doffy had never interfered there then the croc boy would have every bone broken sadly, oh and u keep sucking on ur daily marineford "feats" of croc but going by that luffy has top tier durability for being able to take on multiple kizaru kicks and even getting pierced by its light or even getting pierced by aokiji or punched inside out from akainu, why not mention that, I mean god knows how much would u wank off at crocodile if he would have managed to pull out that at marineford.

Wtf?

Where did I ever imply that? Read again dude.

Did you not read?

Crocodile was after whitebeard, so of course he was a target.

Of course your constant fapping off to doflamingo would put him as a factor for Jozu against crocodile.
Of course Haki is not needed, but it's the best option when used to attack a logia without any avialible weakness.

Doflamingo didn't save anyone, he only got in the way and ended up getting blasted away.
Crocodile versus Jozu would of remained inconclusive, just like how crocodile attacked Akainu without needing any "interference/saving."

So get real here and get diflamingo's strings out of your ass.

Even in alabasta there was so many factors, aid, and objects that were staked against crocodile's favor yet he still won the three series battle.

Yes, luffy is one of the top most duribility characters in one piece.

He already took an island splitting punch in pre timeskip, and even took all that crap in the marineford.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Relax, I said Crocodile loses.

You said he could push Doflamingo to mid-high when he actually gets negged by Doflamingo.

 

[Bogard]

You said he could push Doflamingo to mid-high when he actually gets negged by Doflamingo.

Still better than people who say he wins lol

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Croc definitely loses but everyone is basing their analysis of his strength on Alabasta, where is a hellofalot weaker than in the Impel Down and Marineford Arcs

 

[Praydara]

You said he could push Doflamingo to mid-high when he actually gets negged by Doflamingo.

That's what we call an opinion.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

That's what we call an opinion.

It's what I call a bad opinion.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

It's what I call a bad opinion.

Still an opinion nonetheless

 

[bajram]

Did you not read?

Crocodile was after whitebeard, so of course he was a target.

Of course your constant fapping off to doflamingo would put him as a factor for Jozu against crocodile.
Of course Haki is not needed, but it's the best option when used to attack a logia without any avialible weakness.

Doflamingo didn't save anyone, he only got in the way and ended up getting blasted away.
Crocodile versus Jozu would of remained inconclusive, just like how crocodile attacked Akainu without needing any "interference/saving."

So get real here and get diflamingo's strings out of your ass.

Even in alabasta there was so many factors, aid, and objects that were staked against crocodile's favor yet he still won the three series battle.

Yes, luffy is one of the top most duribility characters in one piece.

He already took an island splitting punch in pre timeskip, and even took all that crap in the marineford.

He was after WB but immediately backed off because of Luffy after that he was fighting fodder pirates.

Still cant understand ur haki point, be more clear really...

Doflamingo wasnt blasted away he was flying with his strings while sables had the same effect on jozu as wind blowing in his face, literally.

He got his ass saved since Jozu was stronger then both of them in this case, in a long period fight without doflamingo interfering crocodile would get wrecked, the only way his fight against akainu was inconclusive is because he was fighting together with 14 commanders and a shit ton of other pirates.

Still cant prove wrong my point that Crocodile got his ass handed to alabasta luffy, and the only way for crocodile to be stronger then doflamingo is having Luff and gears + haki weaker then Alabasta Luffy, dat logic though.

 

[VongolaX]

He was after WB but immediately backed off because of Luffy after that he was fighting fodder pirates.

Uh since when does Jozu count as a fodder pirate?

They were still after crocodile even when luffy left, he went back to fight WB again.

They all stopped after squado stabbed WB, which at that point crocodile felt it was morally wrong to attack an injuries WB.

Still cant understand ur haki point, be more clear really...

Just because you have Haki, doesn't mean you can beat Crocodile.

Using water/blood is better than using Haki against crocodile.

Water nullifies his sand powers and intangibility unlike Haki.

The only power he can use when soaked in water is his absorbing hand.

Why do you think he didn't use grande Espade against luffy underground?

He had to use his hook as a means of offense.

And when he did use one last sand attack on luffy, it was found useless because of the liquid (blood) on Luffy's fist.

Doflamingo wasnt blasted away he was flying with his strings while sables had the same effect on jozu as wind blowing in his face, literally.

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He got his ass saved since Jozu was stronger then both of them in this case, in a long period fight without doflamingo interfering crocodile would get wrecked, the only way his fight against akainu was inconclusive is because he was fighting together with 14 commanders and a shit ton of other pirates.

Jozu is physically stronger but crocodile and doflamingo are a lot more powerful.

Even without doflamingo there, he'd still throw Jozu across the marineford because he has no way of evading sables.

Whether being held down or running at crocodile a second time, Crocodile will still launch his ass with that sand storm.

Crocodile was fighting Akainu long before the other commanders showed up and he was still fine.

Those commanders did nothing considering they had no means of bypassing his intangibility.

It was when vista and Marco showed up that he had real assist.

Still cant prove wrong my point that Crocodile got his ass handed to alabasta luffy, and the only way for crocodile to be stronger then doflamingo is having Luff and gears + haki weaker then Alabasta Luffy, dat logic though.

Yet he beat luffy

Now luffy+ Haki>>>Jozu brilliant punk+Haki?

Logic indeed :|

 

[Punk Hazard]

Uh since when does Jozu count as a fodder pirate?

They were still after crocodile even when luffy left, he went back to fight WB again.

They all stopped after squado stabbed WB, which at that point crocodile felt it was morally wrong to attack an injuries WB.



Just because you have Haki, doesn't mean you can beat Crocodile.

Using water/blood is better than using Haki against crocodile.

Water nullifies his sand powers and intangibility unlike Haki.

The only power he can use when soaked in water is his absorbing hand.

Why do you think he didn't use grande Espade against luffy underground?

He had to use his hook as a means of offense.

And when he did use one last sand attack on luffy, it was found useless because of the liquid (blood) on Luffy's fist.



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Jozu is physically stronger but crocodile and doflamingo are a lot more powerful.

Even without doflamingo there, he'd still throw Jozu across the marineford because he has no way of evading sables.

Whether being held down or running at crocodile a second time, Crocodile will still launch his ass with that sand storm.

Crocodile was fighting Akainu long before the other commanders showed up and he was still fine.

Those commanders did nothing considering they had no means of bypassing his intangibility.

It was when vista and Marco showed up that he had real assist.




Yet he beat luffy

Now luffy+ Haki>>>Jozu brilliant punk+Haki?

Logic indeed :|

Couple things wrong here.

1. Someone punching Crocodile with Haki is actually a lot better than that person punching them with water/blood. While both allow you touch touch him, Haki also adds impact to the punch. Water/blood doesn't make the punch hurt any more than your strength, Haki does.

2. Crocodile didn't fight Akainu. He hit him with the sand blade, then did the Sables[

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]. Akainu then launched a magma fist at Buggy[

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] then the commanders and other pirates immediately joined in.[

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]. Crocodile didn't do much better than off-screen no-name fodder did with cannon balls. There wasn't no "fight long before the commanders showed up", Crocodile cut Akainu in half in an attack that didn't even harm him. Crocodile sent Jinbei and Luffy flying, and Akainu ignored Crocodile and launched an attack at Buggy, and then the commanders showed up. That's a very short frame of time, less than a minute.

3. Crocodile noticed Jozu running towards him the first time, and was unable to stop him. The second time, all he could do was raise his arm, why didn't he send a Sables towards Jozu like you are saying now as he was running? Jozu is too fast for Crocodile.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I haven't read the original post because I don't don't have to. The title itself is ridiculous. I now know why Uzumaki Macho thinks Croc is overrated on here.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I haven't read the original post because I don't don't have to. The title itself is ridiculous. I now know why Uzumaki Macho thinks Croc is overrated on here.

Why? Because you underrate him by ignoring his Impel Down and Marineford feats?

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Why? Because you underrate him by ignoring his Impel Down and Marineford feats?

I think Croc is both overrated and underrated but saying he can OWN or beat Doffy right now is too much. Croc is underrated because people keep thinking of Alabasta while ignoring that his sand powers were useless at the time and engaged a hand to hand combat specialist like Luffy.

Croc is on the same level as Smoker and Caesar. Croc IS strong yes. His punch+Doffy's kick caused a shockwave, he cut Akainu in half, he parried Mihawk's sword swing, almost got a hit in on WB via sneak attack and noly got hit once in the war. However, Jozu "outclassed" Crocodile and Croc hasn't shown anything that can harm or beat someone versatile like Doflamingo.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I think Croc is both overrated and underrated but saying he can OWN or beat Doffy right now is too much. Croc is underrated because people keep thinking of Alabasta while ignoring that his sand powers were useless at the time and engaged a hand to hand combat specialist like Luffy.

Croc is on the same level as Smoker and Caesar. Croc IS strong yes. His punch+Doffy's kick caused a shockwave, he cut Akainu in half, he parried Mihawk's sword swing, almost got a hit in on WB via sneak attack and noly got hit once in the war. However, Jozu "outclassed" Crocodile and Croc hasn't shown anything that can harm or beat someone versatile like Doflamingo.

Cutting Akainu in half isn't impressive since he wasn't even paying attention to Croc and it did no damage. At Saobaody, a fodder shot Kizaru in the head, but he isn't being commended for that. Whitebeard clearly saw Croc and would definitely would have either dodged or hit Croc if Luffy didn't show up.

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Actually crocodile would get blitzed, he has shown no signs of haki and his physical stats are terrible at this rate, so otherwise doflamngo win neg diff.

Croc at mf isn't croc at ala

Blitz croc? He's sand bruh
Plus he couldn't blitz sanji

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I think Croc is both overrated and underrated but saying he can OWN or beat Doffy right now is too much. Croc is underrated because people keep thinking of Alabasta while ignoring that his sand powers were useless at the time and engaged a hand to hand combat specialist like Luffy.

Croc is on the same level as Smoker and Caesar. Croc IS strong yes. His punch+Doffy's kick caused a shockwave, he cut Akainu in half, he parried Mihawk's sword swing, almost got a hit in on WB via sneak attack and noly got hit once in the war. However, Jozu "outclassed" Crocodile and Croc hasn't shown anything that can harm or beat someone versatile like Doflamingo.

Nobody said Croc could beat Doffy though

Dude, Smoker and Croc are on the same level (Sanjis level) but they'd both oneshot Caesar, you really understimate them

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Nobody said Croc could beat Doffy though

Dude, Smoker and Croc are on the same level (Sanjis level) but they'd both oneshot Caesar, you really understimate them

Smoker/Sanji>Croc.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Smoker/Sanji>Croc.

Go back to Impel Down. Reread it. Reread Marineford. Analyse his fights intensely. You need a bit of self didactic education in One Piece