I have seen most of that vid before... but Apes are no where near the same as man genetically... which is why we can't mate with them
but all other evolved species can mate
also our sexual system and genital structure is WAAAAAAAAY diffferent...
we have almost NOTHING in common realistically it is a poorly made theory
Well I believe all religions have a connection and are true to a degree, that there is a higher power. I know it's going to be a strange claim, but I remember as a child I remember I believed to have seen ghosts. I have a clear memory of what happened because it's something I've never forgotten and thought about constantly. I also have a near-photographic memory. My earliest memory was from when I was 2.
To this day I still can't explain what is was I saw, but science dictates there is no such thing as ghosts. In this instance science has failed me, religion has not.
The universe is large and many things are possible, saying God is not with only knowing 4% of the universe is foolish.
I said I would much rather believe that we happened by chance. Then to say some god put use here. When we can't even get that story straight and when I mean straight I am talking about religion. Not all religion have a connection with one another because they all tell different story or believe system. So no one can say with 100% that they are right. That's why it comes down to you own opinion.
I said I would much rather believe that we happened by chance. Then to say some god put use here. When we can't even get that story straight and when I mean straight I am talking about religion. Not all religion have a connection with one another because they all tell different story or believe system. So no one can say with 100% that they are right. That's why it comes down to you own opinion.
Well here's a query for you then. Science claims that the universe started from nothing. That absolute nothingness managed to create an entire universe, evolution, and life with consciousness.
So is that more believable that nothingness managed to stimulate a force out of nothing to cause such an explosion of matter as opposed to God being the force that caused the Big Bang?
They say laws of physics govern the universe, but how are laws made from nothing, something that says this can or cannot be? These laws are so complex that only a handful of the human population understands it.
Well here's a query for you then. Science claims that the universe started from nothing. That absolute nothingness managed to create an entire universe, evolution, and life with consciousness.
So is that more believable that nothingness managed to stimulate a force out of nothing to cause such an explosion of matter as opposed to God being the force that caused the Big Bang?
They say laws of physics govern the universe, but how are laws made from nothing, something that says this can or cannot be? These laws are so complex that only a handful of the human population understands it.
To be honesty the nothingness over a god doing. The Big Bang theory is that a theory it has room to be improved. Say a god did it is taking it at face value. The laws of nature are what we can see or test. Their doesn't have to be a god to govern it. Because if we can test it over and over again then in theory we know it will happen. God is used for the unknown what people can't explain or don't try to find what makes it happen.
To be honesty the nothingness over a god doing. The Big Bang theory is that a theory it has room to be improved. Say a god did it is taking it at face value. The laws of nature are what we can see or test. Their doesn't have to be a god to govern it. Because if we can test it over and over again then in theory we know it will happen. God is used for the unknown what people can't explain are try to find what makes it happen.
So nothing created a singularity from nothing that caused a big bang of all matter in our universe......nothing. First nothing, then something, black to white and no gray.
It sounds familiar, in the beginning there was nothing and God said let there be light. The big bang explosion sounds a lot like that passage when you think about it; this passage was written in a time before they had the technology that we do.
I don't think religion has ever really defined God, because I believe God is something we can never define nor is it anything like we imagine. I see God as a force of the universe, not a physical manifestation.
When humans create A.I. in a virtual world, does the A.I. have any way of finding evidence of humans unless we directly greet it? I don't think so.
I think that if something can't be proven, it actually doesn't exist. Even though evolution doesn't have the greatest proof, it is in these cases the theory that makes most sense among all. So I believe more in evolution then creation. And if we will talk about the universe the discussion can go on forever.
Putting god here I think is the simplest answer. We put god in the place where human intelligence had no answer, but this doesn't mean humans may not find out later. So if God really exists we will find out one day, if he doesn't than science was right since the beggining.
This is the difference between religion and science. Religion doesn't care for science even if it is proven. But science will care about religion if the existence of god is proven.
"IF" a God does exist, then he created what we call Science today. You can't disprove nor prove a negative so claiming an ultimatum is against logic. Just because you can't see the spiders in your walls, doesn't mean they aren't there. Watching you, waiting.... lol
Honestly, I'm agnostic about the idea. I guess the fact that I come from a christian family, but have taken science courses all my life somewhat counteract each other. But I think I lean more to evolution. I mean, based on evidence and such, there is more facts that prove we came from evolution (skeleton construction changes throughout the decades, human's being similar to primates, Darwinism, etc...) and the thing that seems to be all I hear when I state this is, "Just because you can't see God doesn't mean he isn't there. You can't see air, but you still believe it's there". It is a very true statement, but it is scientifically proven that air is there, and can even be proven many more times. But, I'm just going to remain agnostic. I'd just like to see what other people say and see if it can alter my idea.
I completely agree. Air can be proven but some relate energy as the living force of the universe.... some try and claim that's god, because energy doesn't die, it just transfers/changes. It's not impossible for a deity to exist, but until it's actually proven, I will remain an Agnostic Theist. You can be an Agnostic Atheist or an Agnostic Theist, which are you?
You can't find answers for like questions like this. You can make cases for both sides; in the end of the day, it's an opinion and not a fact.
While it's true that our DNA is 90% close to apes; however, there is no evidence of the fossil of of the ''common ancestor'', we humans and apes supposedly share. If you take a look at religion, it talks about a deity who created the universe. The universe's creation is unimaginably complex. The way time flows, living creatures function and constructed, the mysteries behind space, and so on makes believe there is indeed a designer behind all this. Do you expect to believe the universe just popped out nowhere by a chance? Hell no. Also, if you take look at some of the stuff in religion, and try to mix them with science, you will see that god does exist. For example:
The holy black stone that resides in Muslim country, is stated to be the stone that fell from heaven to the earth to Adam and Eve. According to scientists, the stone is actually small pieces of asteroid.
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So if you indeed mix religion evidences with scientific evidences, the chances of god existing is over 50%.
I actually think the chances of a deity are higher than 50%. The universe is indeed complex but the topic directly relates to human existence and modern religions vs evolution. We are the most intelligent creatures on earth and we have many scientific advances that prove this. We have no "legitimate" proof of any current religions being true. Science few us to the moon, religion few us into buildings... I hate to use that phrase, but it's true. I'm not denying that a God exist, I in fact believe in a God, but a belief is not a proven fact. If a God does exist, then he created evolution. As far as that stone goes, I'll have to look into it, I've never heard of it before. However, from what you posted, the only thing it really proves, is that asteroids hit earth at some point.
So nothing created a singularity from nothing that caused a big bang of all matter in our universe......nothing. First nothing, then something, black to white and no gray.
It sounds familiar, in the beginning there was nothing and God said let there be light. The big bang explosion sounds a lot like that passage when you think about it; this passage was written in a time before they had the technology that we do.
I don't think religion has ever really defined God, because I believe God is something we can never define nor is it anything like we imagine. I see God as a force of the universe, not a physical manifestation.
When humans create A.I. in a virtual world, does the A.I. have any way of finding evidence of humans unless we directly greet it? I don't think so.
Humans have almost been able to create something from nothing. It's getting to the point where our technology has almost been able to crack this case. The phrase you used from the bible has been cannibalized from other religion. Which most religions have done. Everything can be defined. Virtual world is a program that has a strict coding. The really world has rules to some we know and some we don't know. That doesn't mean that someone created it. If we fallow the thinking habits of people back then you can tell that their thinking patterns under par to nowadays. Most of they stuff they couldn't explain and left it up to saying god did it we have come to understand what it is. The age of reason is young to of course we can't explain everything. But we have more knowledge now then we have ever had before.
Humans have almost been able to create something from nothing. It's getting to the point where our technology has almost been able to crack this case. The phrase you used from the bible has been cannibalized from other religion. Which most religions have done. Everything can be defined. Virtual world is a program that has a strict coding. The really world has rules to some we know and some we don't know. That doesn't mean that someone created it. If we fallow the thinking habits of people back then you can tell that their thinking patterns under par to nowadays. Most of they stuff they couldn't explain and left it up to saying god did it we have come to understand what it is. The age of reason is young to of course we can't explain everything. But we have more knowledge now then we have ever had before.
Virtual World has strict coding....but so does our universe. The laws of physics and quantum mechanics are translated in mathematical terms. How is that any different from a virtual world's coding?
You can recreate the entire universe in a virtual code. So who's to say that we weren't made in a similar way? God creating us by developing codes(i.e. laws of nature) and those codes evolved into the big bang.
I never said God could be proven, but I don't think he can be disproved. Yes, for scientific research, one should take God out of the equation. However, I don't think anyone has the right to say that God doesn't exist because human's will never gain enough knowledge to know something like that for certain.
Virtual World has strict coding....but so does our universe. The laws of physics and quantum mechanics are translated in mathematical terms. How is that any different from a virtual world's coding?
You can recreate the entire universe in a virtual code. So who's to say that we weren't made in a similar way? God creating us by developing codes(i.e. laws of nature) and those codes evolved into the big bang.
I never said God could be proven, but I don't think he can be disproved. Yes, for scientific research, one should take God out of the equation. However, I don't think anyone has the right to say that God doesn't exist because human's will never gain enough knowledge to know something like that for certain.
The A.I already knows the coding. It would be different if we knew everything in the world. But we don't. If god created us the same way then he would have told us how everything worked. Because the A.I already knows this. But in our world the laws of nature can be bend. In a computer world they can't. That's the difference in this two. I lean more to disproven then proven. Because it's human nature to fall back on our safety zone. When something threatens "our normal" way of thinking. I want to ask you something about our human body that if god made us then he ****ed up. How do you explain why do we only use 10% of our brain? Why not make us as a whole?
The A.I already knows the coding. It would be different if we knew everything in the world. But we don't. If god created us the same way then he would have told us how everything worked. Because the A.I already knows this. But in our world the laws of nature can be bend. In a computer world they can't. That's the difference in this two. I lean more to disproven then proven. Because it's human nature to fall back on our safety zone. When something threatens "our normal" way of thinking. I want to ask you something about our human body that if god made up then he ****ed up. How do you explain why do we only use 10% of our brain? Why not make us as a whole?
Well first of all, the A.I. wouldn't know our coding if we developed it without the innate knowledge. A.I. just means artificial intelligence, it doesn't mean it's like the Terminator and knows everything.
In the computer world the laws can definitely bend and even break(bugs, viruses, cheat codes, etc.) A human can only go back an re-write the entire law of the universe.
The human is God of the virtual world, he can literally do anything even and is not subjected to the laws he created for his universe. So God can be the same.
Well to answer your question about the human body and using only 10% of our brain. That's only a myth. You believe in something that is false. Human's use the entirety of their brain.
But to reform your question. Why do we not have total control of our brain? I would assume we wouldn't have access to the rest of our brain because we would have to manually control blood rate, heartbeat, oxygen distribution, etc.
So I think God giving us automatic control of such things is probably better than the alternative.
Just like Human's creating virtual life, they only let them have certain functions.
Well first of all, the A.I. wouldn't know our coding if we developed it without the innate knowledge. A.I. just means artificial intelligence, it doesn't mean it's like the Terminator and knows everything.
In the computer world the laws can definitely bend and even break(bugs, viruses, cheat codes, etc.) A human can only go back an re-write the entire law of the universe.
The human is God of the virtual world, he can literally do anything even and is not subjected to the laws he created for his universe. So God can be the same.
Well to answer your question about the human body and using only 10% of our brain. That's only a myth. You believe in something that hasn't been proven.
But if it were true, I would assume we wouldn't have access to the rest of our brain because we would have to manually control blood rate, heartbeat, oxygen distribution, etc.
So I think God giving us automatic control of such things is probably better than the alternative.
Just like Human's creating virtual life, they only let them have certain functions.
Yea sorry about that 10% stuff I posted it then double checked it my bad going on no sleep for 36 hours. It's a mute argument consider humans have not made A.I so we don't know how they would react. Your going off a theory of A.I. So we end up back at square one the theory of the Big Bang and the theory of a God. I pick my side you pick yours. But we are both humans as long as we have understanding of each other way of think. Then we should be able to get along.
Yea sorry about that 10% stuff I posted it then double checked it my bad going on no sleep for 36 hours. It's a mute argument consider humans have not made A.I so we don't know how they would react. Your going off a theory of A.I. So we end up back at square one the theory of the Big Bang and the theory of a God. I pick my side you pick yours. But we are both humans as long as we have understanding of each other way of think. Then we should be able to get along.
Well actually human's have made A.I., just not to the extent of them having total and complete consciousness and my virtual world argument comes from my experience as an animator.
Animators and programmers are God when creating virtual worlds; they can create, bend, and break laws. They work outside of the virtual universe in their own dimension.
Seeing as such a universe is possible, then who's to say our universe is completely different?
Well in the end, I don't like debating about this sort of subject, and I believe everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. I just don't like it when people disrespect religion or other people's beliefs(not saying you have, but just in general.)
Well actually human's have made A.I., just not to the extent of them having total and complete consciousness and my virtual world argument comes from my experience as an animator.
Animators and programmers are God when creating virtual worlds; they can create, bend, and break laws. They work outside of the virtual universe in their own dimension.
Seeing as such a universe is possible, then who's to say our universe is completely different?
Well in the end, I don't like debating about this sort of subject, and I believe everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. I just don't like it when people disrespect religion or other people's beliefs(not saying you have, but just in general.)
Well actually human's have made A.I., just not to the extent of them having total and complete consciousness and my virtual world argument comes from my experience as an animator.
Animators and programmers are God when creating virtual worlds; they can create, bend, and break laws. They work outside of the virtual universe in their own dimension.
Seeing as such a universe is possible, then who's to say our universe is completely different?
Well in the end, I don't like debating about this sort of subject, and I believe everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. I just don't like it when people disrespect religion or other people's beliefs(not saying you have, but just in general.)
I understand I don't know much about A.I but I do know that they are no where to the point of have human capabilities. That why I said it's a theory. You do make a sound argument that I really can't answer. Because of my lack in this field. I just don't believe everything can be explained by saying god did it. That makes life kind of boring IMO. It was a nice talk tho.
I understand I don't know much about A.I but I do know that they are no where to the point of have human capabilities. That why I said it's a theory. You do make a sound argument that I really can't answer. Because of my lack in this field. I just don't believe everything can be explained by saying god did it. That makes life kind of boring IMO. It was a nice talk tho.
Well I think the opposite. I'd rather have a God than not having one. I can't accept that life simply ends and all of trials and memories of life mean nothing and fade away into the dust of the Earth.
I'd rather be optimistic in the hopes that my conscious or soul will forever exist and this mortal world is just a cocoon waiting to be shed.
If I were a God, I do believe I would subject my creations to such a world. One must know the flaws of a world in order to then see the value of perfection. So we must first gain knowledge of both good and evil to truly know the greatness of a paradise.
Watching you, waiting.... lol
