[Discussion] Creationism vs Evolution

[FoolzBeWeary]

Well I think the opposite. I'd rather have a God than not having one. I can't accept that life simply ends and all of trials and memories of life mean nothing and fade away into the dust of the Earth.

I'd rather be optimistic in the hopes that my conscious or soul will forever exist and this mortal world is just a cocoon waiting to be shed.

I don't think life really ends after death in a sence. I mean we give life to other life forms. I have a question off the topic do you believe aliens are really? Just asking. I do to many worlds out their to be just use and their have been carvings in ruins of then.

 

[Lightbringer]

I don't think life really ends after death in a sence. I mean we give life to other life forms. I have a question off the topic do you believe aliens are really? Just asking. I do to many worlds out their to be just use and their have been carvings in ruins of then.

Giving life to other forms isn't the same though. You, the individual, ceases to exist. Even if the world ends after your death, it would not matter nor would you know. That's not a reality I would like.

If God existed and was near-omnipotent, then he can surely share his power. So I like to believe that when we die, we become a part of God yet still remain our individual self, gaining his knowledge and power to create our own universe and life. It's better than believing in nothing.

As for your other question, yeah I believe in aliens, although I don't really think they've visited Earth yet.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Giving life to other forms isn't the same though. You, the individual, ceases to exist. Even if the world ends after your death, it would not matter nor would you know. That's not a reality I would like.

If God existed and was near-omnipotent, then he can surely share his power. So I like to believe that when we die, we become a part of God yet still remain our individual self, gaining his knowledge and power to create our own universe and life. It's better than believing in nothing.

As for your other question, yeah I believe in aliens, although I don't really think they've visited Earth yet.

To each their own. I am a big history buff. That's what I am majoring in my field is Southeast Asia. But I dabble in ancient history form many country's. You would be suppressed at how many pictures and clues can be found of "alien beings". It's a mind blowing

 

[Itachi Minato]

I understand I don't know much about A.I but I do know that they are no where to the point of have human capabilities. That why I said it's a theory. You do make a sound argument that I really can't answer. Because of my lack in this field. I just don't believe everything can be explained by saying god did it. That makes life kind of boring IMO. It was a nice talk tho.

Why do people think that religious people say God did it and leave it at that? Thats really not true. There are many famous scientists who believed in God and were religious but they discovered many things. Anyway, I believe in evolution creationism just doesnt make sense to me

 

[The Dreamer]

I'm in my last semester of college. But technically, yeah.

2D or 3D? :3

 

[avenged sevenfold]

I prefer and believe the theory of evolution

 

[vasu 32]

Just One Question. Why is there so many religions in Earth with entirely different beliefs and origins but only 1 Science as a whole? I am kinda curious to get this answer from all believers.


Now @Dimitri. Dude can you explain Why Bible Said that Sun revolve around the Earth? [ I think it said that otherwise Galileo wouldn't have died in Jail for stating the obvious thing which was already stated by Aryabhatta in India around 300 BCE. ] Also why is it that whatever you said about prophet mohammad dividing moon thing also has been said in Hinduism folklore way before he even appeared, and it was credited to Lord Ganesh that he splitted the moon?

I am so so so curious, you know. Please enlighten me.

 

[The Dreamer]

Just One Question. Why is there so many religions in Earth with entirely different beliefs and origins but only 1 Science as a whole? I am kinda curious to get this answer from all believers.


Now @Dimitri. Dude can you explain Why Bible Said that Sun revolve around the Earth? [ I think it said that otherwise Galileo wouldn't have died in Jail for stating the obvious thing which was already stated by Aryabhatta in India around 300 BCE. ] Also why is it that whatever you said about prophet mohammad dividing moon thing also has been said in Hinduism folklore way before he even appeared, and it was credited to Lord Ganesh that he splitted the moon?

I am so so so curious, you know. Please enlighten me.

Scientists contradict each other all the time. Also an earthly organization of Church or any other religion isn't related to the question of God's existence. Besides if you're so limited that you can't see the nonsense of your statement then you're not worth a decent reply.

 

[Gintõki1]

Evolution failed hard with making the humans.

 

[SolarSpider]

Evolution failed hard with making the humans.

Evolution is a never ending process, so I'm sure we will have a few gems in a pile of rocks.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I don't believe in a creator (creators?). If he/she/it/they existed, we should be able to prove his/her/their/its existence. But if something doesn't exist, you can't prove or disprove it. As we can't know anything about a god (gods), other than what some people wrote in their holy books, it doesn't really affect my life so I see no reason to have 'faith'.

(Note: don't quote me as I'm not gonna debate.)

 

[Bronze]

Just One Question. Why is there so many religions in Earth with entirely different beliefs and origins but only 1 Science as a whole? I am kinda curious to get this answer from all believers.


Now @Dimitri. Dude can you explain Why Bible Said that Sun revolve around the Earth? [ I think it said that otherwise Galileo wouldn't have died in Jail for stating the obvious thing which was already stated by Aryabhatta in India around 300 BCE. ] Also why is it that whatever you said about prophet mohammad dividing moon thing also has been said in Hinduism folklore way before he even appeared, and it was credited to Lord Ganesh that he splitted the moon?

I am so so so curious, you know. Please enlighten me.

I haven't read a lot about the bible. Only a few. The quran, however mentions about the sun orbiting which later was expanded by science.

"It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They swim along, each in an orbit. "
(The Qur'an, 21:33)''

Science would later expand on the idea that the sun is orbiting, and the planets around its gravitational system are traveling along with it. Again, mentioned in the quran:

"By the sky full of paths and orbits."
( (he Qur'an, 51:7)

As for Hinduism, the information in that religion is inaccurate. They worship cows as gods. They worship statues as gods. Islam doesn't, and that is why the moon splitting miracle was prophet Muhammad's doing, and not the man you speak of. Also, is there any accurate date of when he done that, cause scientists are trying to study the age of the moon's cracks, and if it's between 1000-2000 years, then it's Muhammad's doing because he existed between those eras.​

 

[Punk Hazard]

Because the words and texts written there are extremely powerful and logical. Did you read the bible or the quran? I read both of them. I literally felt the how powerful the terms of those holy books. Man cannot write stuff like that. Furthermore, both books are recording some millions years of events, which again, can be proven by scientific evidence. Like the moon example I used. I want you take a look on the moon's example a little bit more, since you want me to use logical reasoning:

The moon's giant cracks are very squeezed and tight. A proof that the moon has shrunk compared to thousands of years. And scientists are trying to determine what caused this, and how long has it happened. First, it's supernatural. Second, I can guess it's between 1000-2000 years. Muhammad has been deceased for around 14000 years according the scripts of the guran, and the moon's event took place at his time.

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All I am saying is, we shouldn't be aggressive in our beliefs. Science and religion should work together, if they want to find answers. Anyway, this discussion has been great, but I am going to play Call of Duty: Black Flag. ​

Like I said before, those "events" could be simple observations. People cite that because some events and locations listed in the holy books are real, the whole thing is real. This isn't true, of course they have places and events that DID happen, they were written by people that actually existed. However, just because they were able to deduce there's a crack in the moon, that doesn't mean they're right that there's an invisible being who governs the entire universe.

Humans have written many works that have been considered logical and moving. Humans CAN make texts that are moving and logical, people have been moved through art on countless occasions. I've been moved emotionally by a Spider-Man comic, I suppose Spider-Man also exists?

 

[V h o]

I believe people were created by god, not evolved from animals.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

yup... the entire universse was made by chance... the abilty to think... heal... sleep... water cycle... birth process... yup

or we came from apes that are no where near related to us.... and have a completely different genetic and structural make up and science prove both wrong

so many questions

Apes are pretty similar to humans if you look closely(Apes can use tools, and some have been seen going to war). There genetic structure isn't completely different.

 

[slimreaper]

I find it funnythat the same people who advocate evolution, will be the first to claim all people are equal; and that none are further evolved(typically)

 

[Punk Hazard]

I find it funnythat the same people who advocate evolution, will be the first to claim all people are equal; and that none are further evolved(typically)

What's funny is your generalization.

 

[slimreaper]

What's funny is your generalization.

(typically)

 

[Punk Hazard]

(typically)

You're still generalizing.

 

[slimreaper]

You're still generalizing.

there is truth in all stereotypes