[VS] Cracker vs Sanji / Zorro

[chopstickchakra]

Except this guy was fighting off Luffy for 11 straight hours. Luffy who has G4.

For Sanji at least there is no chance at victory.

Yeah but we don't actually know how much G4 was used in this fight after we moved on. The way Cracker complained made it sound as if there wasn't any real fighting once the rain started. It wouldn't take G4 level attacks to break the biscuits if there was rain so saying they don't equal G4 is irrelevant as G4 isn't needed to break wet biscuits only hard ones.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes but the problem with 2.7KM for the plateau (x2 for Pica) is that your version of Pica is still 7x as tall as the Burj Khalifa.

I mean, in the next chapter Zoro is gonna cut YHWH and take over heaven, so of course he cut something 7x the size of the Burj Khalifa.

 

[Bogard]

Yes but the problem with 2.7KM for the plateau (x2 for Pica) is that your version of Pica is still 7x as tall as the Burj Khalifa.

Islands in one piece are generally bigger than the real life definition of an island. Just look at Alabasta where just a simple river situated inside the island was mentioned to be 50km(just the river's length):

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The diameter of the dressrosa island is 44km. With dressrosa's diameter being that big, it makes sense then that something 16times smaller would be roughly 2.7Km in size:

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[Love Cook]

Islands in one piece are generally bigger than the real life definition of an island. Just look at Alabasta where just a simple river situated inside the island was mentioned to be 50km(just the river's length):

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The diameter of the dressrosa island is 44km. With dressrosa's diameter being that big, it makes sense then that something 16times smaller would be roughly 2.7Km in size:

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Yeah whatever you say hoss

It's fictional so it makes sense that buildings are 5 kilometers high even though we have people standing next to them for reverence. Hate to be king of Dressrosa and walk 5KM of stairs every day to get to work. Need to pack-up you oxygen mask and rest at base camp half way.

My guess is that you shouldn't use a drawing for scale and count the pixels. What you're doing is nonsense, stop presenting it as facts. You have no clue of scale.

 

[ToshiZO]

Lmfaoo they're still trying. What's funny to me is Jinbei blew half the air outta the guy by the time he got to Sanji lmfao.

Huge L to Riker and Love Cook for this one.

 

[Kingu]

I think if Zoro can slice through Crackers defense then he can win this
Sanji on the other hand does have the flames, and with enough heat can make Crackers shied become very brittle. But I don't see how he can take on multiple enemies at once.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah whatever you say hoss

It's fictional so it makes sense that buildings are 5 kilometers high even though we have people standing next to them for reverence. Hate to be king of Dressrosa and walk 5KM of stairs every day to get to work. Need to pack-up you oxygen mask and rest at base camp half way.

My guess is that you shouldn't use a drawing for scale and count the pixels. What you're doing is nonsense, stop presenting it as facts. You have no clue of scale.

I made no complicated scaling at all. Actually i didn't even need it(in this case). There is something called view perspective which alters depending on the way you see the object but in this case you don't need to take that into consideration because dressrosa is a circle and the king plateau is situated at the middle

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That means in that case that the height and diameter meet each other, which means that the height of the plateau can be scaled to the diameter completely

I just showed the lines for people to see the difference for themselves. You don't need to be a pixel scaling expert to see the royal plateau's length is roughly 16times smaller(actually 15 now that i rated it) than the diameter of the dressrosa island. But if you're blind, i made it easier for special cases such as yourself

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Now if it is math problems, there i can't help you though unfortunately

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lmfaoo they're still trying. What's funny to me is Jinbei blew half the air outta the guy by the time he got to Sanji lmfao.

Huge L to Riker and Love Cook for this one.

Sanji still appeared the same size against Wada that Zoro did against Pica. He was still a speck when next to Wada's head, as opposed to being the size of his eye in the panel where he appeared similar in comparison to Luffy next to Pica's head.

Like I said, show concrete instances that show Wada's sizs isn't comparable. At least Bogard is trying, while you're simply saying your conclusion over and over with a cheap joke and trying to pass it as argument.

 

[RJ22BIG]

Lmfaoo they're still trying. What's funny to me is Jinbei blew half the air outta the guy by the time he got to Sanji lmfao.

Huge L to Riker and Love Cook for this one.

After jinbei attacks some air did leak but half is just a crude estimation by you a leak is a small portion not half and the point of this was to show that wadasumi had a greater width and sanji burned the entirety of his body from his single attack. Zoro cut through the waste line of picas golem. Pica was taller and bigger in height it's not like zoro obliterated the statue just cut through it all I'm saying is that it was the same feat both zoro and sanji defeated an opponent that were of enormous proportions it's the same feat that's the point of this all.

 

[Punk Hazard]

After jinbei attacks some air did leak but half is just a crude estimation by you a leak is a small portion not half and the point of this was to show that wadasumi had a greater width and sanji burned the entirety of his body from his single attack. Zoro cut through the waste line of picas golem. Pica was taller and bigger in height it's not like zoro obliterated the statue just cut through it all I'm saying is that it was the same feat both zoro and sanji defeated an opponent that were of enormous proportions it's the same feat that's the point of this all.

That's another thing. People are talking as though Zoro pulverized Pica to dust when he just made thin slices that were long. Even if Sanji's flames weren't as long as Zoro's, one kick still had effect on more area than Zoro did with one slice (really three since he was using Santoryu).

 

[Bogard]

Should have known not to bother. Even with evidence shown in the face, the brigade still can't help but compare, so i'd just say it one last time before exiting myself from this thread or rather discussing for things that actually matter(like the comparison with Cracker)

Golem >> 2.7km >>>>>> 300m > Wadatsumi's max size > Wadatsumi with reduced air
Golem's volume(withstanding countless cannon balls without a scrath) >>>>> Filled by air Wadatsumi shit tier durability(one shotted by Kraken before steroids, getting hurt by Sanji's base kicks and being filled by air isn't compensating anything)
Cutting kilometers size golem with energy big enough to send a kilometer size upper half golem in the air >>>>>>>>>> burning a frail fishman a size of below 300m
11.5megatons >>>>>>>>>740kilotons>>>>>>>>>> 88kilotons

The feats weren't even close to be comparable. But of course the brigade will still continue to compare them

 

[ToshiZO]

Sanji still appeared the same size against Wada that Zoro did against Pica. He was still a speck when next to Wada's head, as opposed to being the size of his eye in the panel where he appeared similar in comparison to Luffy next to Pica's head.

Like I said, show concrete instances that show Wada's sizs isn't comparable. At least Bogard is trying, while you're simply saying your conclusion over and over with a cheap joke and trying to pass it as argument.

This is why I can't take you seriously. You are using the way Oda highlighted Zoro and using that as a scale lmfao, that is the most retarded thing you can do. Zoro would be a giants size following that scale.

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] Look at the size of Zoro in comparison to multi floor buildings. They are closer to the point of view and yet Zoro is still that large, taking into account POV Zoro is literally taller than the entire building lmfao.

Lol @ you trying to use this to scale Pica. Oda simply drew Zoro so he's visible otherwise he wouldn't even be a dot.

The reason I'm not even attempting to scale is because its a lot of work for plebs like you. Look at what Bogard has to do when it shouldn't even be a debate.

 

[Love Cook]

Lmfaoo they're still trying. What's funny to me is Jinbei blew half the air outta the guy by the time he got to Sanji lmfao.

Huge L to Riker and Love Cook for this one.

What do I have to do with it ? I'm just questioning the size of Pica.

Or do you believe that Pica is 5.4 KM tall ? Just answer me that.

I made no complicated scaling at all. Actually i didn't even need it(in this case). There is something called view perspective which alters depending on the way you see the object but in this case you don't need to take that into consideration because dressrosa is a circle and the king plateau is situated at the middle

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That means in that case that the height and diameter meet each other, which means that the height of the plateau can be scaled to the diameter completely

I just showed the lines for people to see the difference for themselves. You don't need to be a pixel scaling expert to see the royal plateau's length is roughly 16times smaller(actually 15 now that i rated it) than the diameter of the dressrosa island. But if you're blind, i made it easier for special cases such as yourself

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Now if it is math problems, there i can't help you though unfortunately

Dude are you fucking dense ? Have you any idea how much a KM is or are you used to American measurements ? you CANT put a goddamn tape measure on a manga page. When Oda draws Dressrosa it's just a guesstimate and the next time it might be bigger and the time after that a bit smaller.

For the last time, you're claiming that Pica is 5.4 KM high. 5400 / 400 = 13.5

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you're claiming in all seriousness that Pica is 13.5 World Trade Centers tall !!!! Get out of here with your dumb math. It makes no sense. There is no ground to any of this. You're talking out of your goddamn ass. If you put a tape measure over a manga page you don't get proof, you get jack shit !

13.5 World trade centers stacked on top of each other, but I guess it's just because islands in One Piece are bigger right ? Insane how you're so convinced about yourself.

 

[arv993]

So pica and wadasumi are equal in durability now that's news to me lmaoo and wadasumi is close to a town size? This site has the most trolls ever but it's entertaining.

And by any metric hype or feats zoro is superior. He has an actual endgame who is a yonko lvl guy. Sanji=zoro is childish thought at this point.

 

[Love Cook]

So pica and wadasumi are equal in durability now that's news to me lmaoo and wadasumi is close to a town size? This site has the most trolls ever but it's entertaining

And claiming that Pica is 13.5 World Trade Centers tall is not trolling ?

 

[arv993]

And claiming that Pica is 13.5 World Trade Centers tall is not trolling ?

It is trolling I never agreed to that I think he's a town size guy but regardless wadasumi is not a pica level guy. It's a bad comparison. And sanji was never indicated to be zoros level idk why it's a big argument

 

[Love Cook]

It is trolling I never agreed to that I think he's a town size guy but regardless wadasumi is not a pica level guy. It's a bad comparison.

Yea I can agree on that, I already said earlier in this thread that Zoro's feat is more impressive and I didn't claim that Wadatsumi was at Pica level. I just refuse "evidence" that is made by measuring a manga page.

Oda has a great drawing ability and the story is amazing but you can't use his dimensions because it is his job to make panels look good and that throws all dimensions of size to put it on a page.

 

[arv993]

Yea I can agree on that, I already said earlier in this thread that Zoro's feat is more impressive and I didn't claim that Wadatsumi was at Pica level. I just refuse "evidence" that is made by measuring a manga page.

Oda has a great drawing ability and the story is amazing but you can't use his dimensions because it is his job to make panels look good and that throws all dimensions of size to put it on a page.

Then what's the point of this argument yea making measurements is not accurate and depends on the author but zoros feat is more impressive due to facing a better opponent so why argue against who has the better feat.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So pica and wadasumi are equal in durability now that's news to me lmaoo and wadasumi is close to a town size? This site has the most trolls ever but it's entertaining.

And by any metric hype or feats zoro is superior. He has an actual endgame who is a yonko lvl guy. Sanji=zoro is childish thought at this point.

1. The comparison is scale/size of attacks, not durability.

2. Arlong pre-skip was more durable than a stone column that's far greater in size than himself. With that in mind, it's fully logical for someone more durable than Arlong and similar in size to Pica's golem to be more durable than the golem. Wada took a Gear 2 punch and only had his tooth broken. That makes him wayyyy more durable than Arlong, who's more durable than stone constructs many times his size. I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together from there.

 

[Love Cook]

Then what's the point of this argument yea making measurements is not accurate and depends on the author but zoros feat is more impressive due to facing a better opponent so why argue against who has the better feat.

Because it throws all the calculations off. Look at the the human calculator above. Making assumptions based of a 5.4 KM tall Pica and destructive capabilities accordingly.

The argument is about facts and so called proof, if nobody says anything about it now we will be dealing with 13.5 Twin Tower Pica again next time again if Bogard gets his tape measure out.