[VS] Cracker>Doflamingo

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Basically, Luffy avoiding Mihawk's slash & not receiving any damage and Jozu blocking his attack and not sustaining any wounds are equally impressive feats in your opinion?

Btw, This is not what I was referring to in my quote.
Not at all, since Luffy BARELY dodged and then rapidly end up unable to dodge from those same slashes, while Jozu would be able to block consistently as well as he did the first slash.
 

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Doflamingo handled Kong Gun way better than Cracker did. Both put a defense up to block, but Cracker lost consciousness and had his shield broken.

Absolutely nothing points at Cracker > Doflamingo based off what we've seen, they seem to be about the same level, but I might even favour Mingo atm.


Still doesn't change the fact that Mingo never took a direct blow, now that Crackers shields are gone he has no choice but to use some other way to defend those attacks, if he gets up that is. If he gets up it will be an even more impressive feat than Doflamingo because Cracker never used any hardening to defend against it, unlike Doflamingo.
This is some of the biggest bs. You're over complicating it, both of them defended against it, both flew backwards. Cracker was using hardening on minor G2 punches, and all of a sudden he stopped using Haki against something that he knew was much stronger?

Absolutely BS.
 
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Cracker probably ain't done yet and Mingo never took a direct blow to the chest from KG, so how can this be proof Mingo is stronger? Convincing yourself Cracker is done for just goes to show how far you have Doflamingos D down your throat.

Doflamingo instantly stitched all that shit up, without the ability to stitch his organs he'd be dead, you act as if he didn't do anything about his injury.

Those awakened strings went right through a weakened and exhausted base Luffy and still didnt kill him. Those strings are doing little to no damage to G4 as already shown.
Fine he stitched it that doesn't stop the pain ... That he took from the attack u say I have doffy **** down my throat really ... He's a fictional character it's not that serious to insult someone u don't even know bro

Lastly crackers eyes r completely white signifying that he is out cold whether it's for a second or hour time will tell until then it doesn't change the fact that he got knocked out by Kong gun
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Like why r all of u in such a desperate need to prove doffy is weak... And before u say ur not look at the actual tittle of the thread ,.. Doffy has nothing to do with cracker why does every character that come out all of u feel the need to not only compare them to doffy but overrate them before they even show everything they have


All of doffy's feats with tanking Kings haki bushido haki the mainford war and his Portryal proves that he's a strong character yet all of u always talk about ppl **** riding why don't u guys stop comparing every single ****ing person that enters the manga to him
 
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Fine he stitched it that doesn't stop the pain ... That he took from the attack u say I have doffy **** down my throat really ... He's a fictional character it's not that serious to insult someone u don't even know bro

Lastly crackers eyes r completely white signifying that he is out cold whether it's for a second or hour time will tell until then it doesn't change the fact that he got knocked out by Kong gun
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Like why r all of u in such a desperate need to prove doffy is weak... And before u say ur not look at the actual tittle of the thread ,.. Doffy has nothing to do with cracker why does every character that come out all of u feel the need to not only compare them to doffy but overrate them before they even show everything they have


All of doffy's feats with tanking Kings haki bushido haki the mainford war and his Portryal proves that he's a strong character yet all of u always talk about ppl **** riding why don't u guys stop comparing every single ****ing person that enters the manga to him
Woah dude.. calm down..

Doflamingo is literally the last main villain we had in the story.. his arc lasted over a year.. but Oda was building him up as an enemy for much longer than that..

Why would people not compare his strength to the next enemy's strength?

Why would they not ask other fans of OP who they think is more of a threat?

This is why forums like NB exist..

If you don't like what you see, why even log in?

Like dude, people are still comparing Crocodile to other enemies.. Buggy to other enemies.. For crying out loud they still put dead characters in vs threads..

It really seems that you have a strong liking for Doflamingo as a character, but you shouldn't get too upset when other members don't share your same opinions man..
 
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Doflamingo handled Kong Gun way better than Cracker did. Both put a defense up to block, but Cracker lost consciousness and had his shield broken.

Absolutely nothing points at Cracker > Doflamingo based off what we've seen, they seem to be about the same level, but I might even favour Mingo atm.




This is some of the biggest bs. You're over complicating it, both of them defended against it, both flew backwards. Cracker was using hardening on minor G2 punches, and all of a sudden he stopped using Haki against something that he knew was much stronger?

Absolutely BS.
Cracker didn't block with his physical body like Doflamingo did. He blocked with his cookies. Doflamingo's physical body is tougher than a cookie. The only reason why Cracker's defense is higher with the cookies is because his armament is greater, but at the end of the day, a cookie remains a cookie, something less durable than Doflamingo's physical strength and that can't be melded by Cracker's own physical resistance/body. That's why when the cookie is broken, the one right behind it(Cracker) receives a direct hit when Doflamingo can use his own physical strength as protection and being pushed back without receiving a direct hit. It was the main difference between both instances

Cracker also wasn't sent nearly as far as Doflamingo was and while he was close to lose consciousness, it didn't reach that point. He made some noises after being sent flying by the end of the chapter. The blank eyes were to show how heavily affected he was by the attack. It's a little bit like when Blueno was first hit by Luffy's riffle. He had blanks eyes for a second to emphasize how heavily affected by the attack he was, but he remained standing and even followed up with a counter-attack right after it.

There is also the fact that Doflamingo is wearing glasses that favors him considering you'd never know what heavily affected him through his eyes expression, but when you compare the way both took kong gun and red hawk(an attack much weaker), it was mostly the same.
 
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I think its funny how people think DD is one of the strongest characters in one piece.that ***** is trash. There's a reason why he was the first main villain post time skip. He's weak compared to the rest of the villains in the manga. I bet people are still gonna **** ride him 2 arcs from now. The funny thing is that whenever luffy uses G4 they are always going to assume that doffy is as least as strong as anyone he fights with g4. If you guys don't find the flaw in that then there is no saving you from your own stupidity. DD is history and fodder now. Get over it.
 

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Firstly I don't get why this thread was made in the first place because Crack was just introduced and the ***** is already unconscious as @ the last chapter and then the fact that it says he's greater than doffy is just funny bcos like I said he's ****ing unconscious already so wtf. Personally I think the only reason Luffy used gear fourth is bcos he was angry with what cracker said and wanted to finish him off quickly to move on with the sanji recovery mission but that's just me,some of u *****s might wanna get ur boxers in a bunch and jump to conclusions so soon
 

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Firstly I don't get why this thread was made in the first place because Crack was just introduced and the ***** is already unconscious as @ the last chapter and then the fact that it says he's greater than doffy is just funny bcos like I said he's ****ing unconscious already so wtf. Personally I think the only reason Luffy used gear fourth is bcos he was angry with what cracker said and wanted to finish him off quickly to move on with the sanji recovery mission but that's just me,some of u *****s might wanna get ur boxers in a bunch and jump to conclusions so soon
Oh hey look. Its a little ***** trying to be like me. Ill let you rub my nuts for me lil ***t.
 

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Firstly I don't get why this thread was made in the first place because Crack was just introduced and the ***** is already unconscious as @ the last chapter and then the fact that it says he's greater than doffy is just funny bcos like I said he's ****ing unconscious already so wtf. Personally I think the only reason Luffy used gear fourth is bcos he was angry with what cracker said and wanted to finish him off quickly to move on with the sanji recovery mission but that's just me,some of u *****s might wanna get ur boxers in a bunch and jump to conclusions so soon
Lmao he himself admitted that he needs G4 to fight him. You're implying that he can beat Cracker without G4.
 

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Lmfao ninja, does this look like a fight Luffy can win with Gear 2 and 3?

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Stop playing yourself man.
My dudes.. idk what you're talking about with "stop playing yourself".. I agree with you about it looking like a fight Luffy can't win without Gear 4th.. that's something we, as readers, should be able to see.. but that still doesn't change the fact that Luffy never said what Passerby claims he did.. lol


He says "Not go all out? I dont know any other way"
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Exactly.

That is not the same as what you claimed first - "admitting that he needs G4 to fight him".... big difference bro.
 

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My dudes.. idk what you're talking about with "stop playing yourself".. I agree with you about it looking like a fight Luffy can't win without Gear 4th.. that's something we, as readers, should be able to see.. but that still doesn't change the fact that Luffy never said what Passerby claims he did.. lol




Exactly.

That is not the same as what you claimed first - "admitting that he needs G4 to fight him".... big difference bro.
I think going Gear 4th while getting his ass spanked is Luffy pretty much admitting he needs Gear 4th. You arguing some bullshit right now, end of the day, he needed to go Gear Fourth.
 
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