[VS] Cracker>Doflamingo

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

It's exactly what you think.. I personally believe, that Luffy with full health and stamina will be able to defeat Doflamingo.. I also feel as though the damage Law's Gamma Knife did, is overrated here on the Base..

How is busting someone's internal organs (keep in mind the heart and lungs are apart of that group :|)

Being overrated until proven other wise doffy and prob that girl.. Princess with the healing powers are the only ppl with the move set to block... That hit (aside from having enough haki to defend against and even that's iffy due laws hax)

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Gear 4th > Doflamingo with his Awakened DF and anything he has in his arsenal

Gear 4th is > doffy offense


But not speed stamina and defense/durability keep in mind this is after gamma knife doesn't matter how u feel

Busting all someone's internal organs at once is crazy even if they survive the hit

 

[LBeezy]

How is busting someone's internal organs (keep in mind the heart and lungs are apart of that group :|)

Being overrated until proven other wise doffy and prob that girl.. Princess with the healing powers are the only ppl with the move set to block... That hit (aside from having enough haki to defend against and even that's iffy due laws hax)

Overrated purely because of the type of abilities that Doflamingo has.. Doflamingo was able to carry on fighting, when other people would've been severely injured if not dead. But Doflamingo has the string string fruit....

I'm not saying the attack itself is overrated.
I'm saying the damage caused to Doflamingo is a bit overrated by some.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Well Luffy was in his base form + some Haki when he was harmed by Bellamy, we know G4 is much more durable, and we know Base Luffy ain't even a match for Doflamingo because not even G2 could hurt him.

Its not unlikely for Luffy to be in a similarly weakened state as Doflamingo when you consider Luffy wasn't in his most durable and powerful state when he let Bellamy pound him.

And doffy was when he let doffy gamma knife and injection shot him ?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Overrated purely because of the type of abilities that Doflamingo has.. Doflamingo was able to carry on fighting, when other people would've been severely injured if not dead. But Doflamingo has the string string fruit....

I'm not saying the attack itself is overrated.
I'm saying the damage caused to Doflamingo is a bit overrated by some.

The damage almost killed him. There is no way to heal busted organs with Dofi's power. He even said himself he didn't heal. He just pulled them back together to restore function and to stop the bleeding. The blood he already lost, the pain they were in, and the physical damage to them weren't negated. Doflamingo didn't reduce or negate any damage he took, he just kept himself alive.

 

[LBeezy]

And doffy was when he let doffy gamma knife and injection shot him ?

I'm not sure what you're asking?

The damage almost killed him. There is no way to heal busted organs with Dofi's power. He even said himself he didn't heal. He just pulled them back together to restore function and to stop the bleeding. The blood he already lost, the pain they were in, and the physical damage to them weren't negated. Doflamingo didn't reduce or negate any damage he took, he just kept himself alive.

All of which, someone else who is not Doflamingo, would be unable to do.

Like I said, the attack is awesome.. it just sucks for Law that Doflamingo was able to do what he did..

 

[TRE MERCER]

Damn he still trying to debate it

 

[HashiraMadara]

Except Luffy at near full vs Doflamingo half dead resulted in Luffy laying on the ground unable to move while Doflamingo had more than enough strength to kill him at this point. Luffy wasn't significantly injured by anyone who wasn't Doflamingo himself, so the company on Doflamingo's part is irrelevant to Luffy's status.

If they went one on one, it'd end the same way: Luffy on the ground unable to move, and Doflamingo primed to finish him off, except this time Luffy won't have dozens of people helping him.

Why do they even think Luffy got something on Mingo???

He got ripped apart by Gamma knife etc. still Gear 4 couldn't fully finish him

 

[YellowFang]

Maybe, maybe not but didn't Luffy replied to Nami 'Don't go all-out because we've still the major task to do' with 'I don't know not going all-out'
He's just being badas$ there, anything else will be proven over-time...

 

[chopstickchakra]

No offense taken dude.. and no I'm not delusional.. Luffy > Doflamingo.
You guys love to bring up the point of "well if Doffy is at 20 and Luffy is at 20, than at 100 hes at 100 and he still stands back up." But it doesnt work like that. All Luffy needs is a little bit more time in G4 to put Doflamingo to sleep (which is shown in the manga. It's a fact not an opinion.) So if Luffy is at 100% in the fight he will have that extra haki/time span for G4 and defeat Doflamingo. It's so simple that I'm not sure how some of you guys don't see it.

I'm saying that Gamma Knife did damage, yes, but not as much as some people try to claim.. the major factor being is that Doflamingo WAS able to use strings inside of his body to help him. If it was someone else who got hit with GK then guarantee they would be in a much worse condition.

No it does work like that, if you have two trucks pushing against each other at 20% power and neither budges then neither will budge even if they're both ran at 100%. Luffy would not need just a little more time, he'd need a lot more time to take out a 100 Doffy with G4. He'd only need a little more time to take out Doffy with G4 given the shape they were in at DR I'll give you that. No matter how you split it G4 was unable to finish Doffy in one go, the recoup time means if he can't finish it in one burst of G4 then he'll lose since the damage won't incapacitate Doffy for more time than it takes to recharge G4. We don't even know how much longer G4 lasts at 100% you act like it's guaranteed to give him extra hours when it may only be another 30 minutes or an hour(iirc G4 already has a relatively short time period anyway) we just don't know how much time he'd get. An extra 30 minutes(if that's what he'd get) wouldn't be enough time to overcome the

A safe assumption is GK still dropped Doffy to below 50% though and it caused a continuous strain throughout the fight so G4 Luffy didn't really start 1v1 Doffy until Doffy was already around or just below 50%, Luffy on the other hand was above 50%(if just barely) even with the haki use and fighting. GK was probably the second(some may argue most) damaging attack in the whole DR fight.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

The fact that Big Mom sents Cracker to fight guy who just a couple of days ago defeated Doflamingo, speaks alot.

But on the other hand, is Mama aware that Tra***lar Law give a hand to Luffy and that Luffy needed help from others to defeat Doflamingo.

 

[FloriGlori]

As long as Brûlée solos, I'm unconcerned.

On a serious note, that's complete nonsense. Mama sending Cracker only means she's acknowledging Luffy's strength, it's not implying in any way she actually believes Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo - there's no way she could possibly know that. When sending him out, she also knew that Brûlée would still be there as well.

That Bounty's no implication, either, considering Doffy's was simply frozen, and the WG had no idea of his deeds and involvements with the black market. That man was delivering weapons and drugs all over the world, funding multiple wars, and was running the biggest underground black market place. An illegal research lab as well, supplying a Yonkou with artifical devil fruits and weapons of mass destruction - and by the way threw over an entire kingdom, enslaving its inhabitants in the process. I'm certain Doffy's Bounty would exceed even Jack's had all these things been known.

Going by portrayal, Doffy is easily above Cracker, considering the ease with which he used Parasaito on Jozu, who's also a high-tier of a Yonkou's crew. Bullet Thread gg.

 

[MadaraReturns]

To anybody going on about "Doflamingo outlasting Gear 4th" ... Luffy didn't use King Kong Gun the first time, you simpletons :| You know, that attack that OHKO'd him neg diff (in manga)??? Remember??? Still think he'd outlast Boundman if Luffy used it the first time around? Cuz like.. He wouldn't, and you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise.

Luffy > Doflamingo

That's it.

(Idk if someone already said this) But you could also say (and thats true) that Doffy didn't use his 'Holy Threads' either, plus that Doffy probably got KO'd because he already got sliced up from the inside and much more..

 

[OG sama]

And doffy was when he let doffy gamma knife and injection shot him ?

Sense when did Doflamingo have a form that increases all physical stats like G4? Did you even read what I said?

 

[Bogard]

Lol Luffy got stronger in 2weeks nah bruh. Luffy stayed the same from enies lobby all the way up until the time skip.

Stayed the same my ass. He could use gear stacking for the jet shell against moria and by the time of marineford, he could maintain g2 for much longer periods of times

 

[Punk Hazard]

Stayed the same my ass. He could use gear stacking for the jet shell against moria and by the time of marineford, he could maintain g2 for much longer periods of times

Nothing indicates he couldn't stack Gears in Enies Lobby.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Stayed the same my ass. He could use gear stacking for the jet shell against moria and by the time of marineford, he could maintain g2 for much longer periods of times

Riker basically made my point for me plus you said his base stats most likely increased which clearly isn't the case since it was never hinted or suggested that he got any stronger after his fight with DD.

 

[LBeezy]

Damn he still trying to debate it

Ain't no debate bihh..

Luffy > Doflamingo

 

[Liquid Snake]

Except Luffy at near full vs Doflamingo half dead resulted in Luffy laying on the ground unable to move while Doflamingo had more than enough strength to kill him at this point. Luffy wasn't significantly injured by anyone who wasn't Doflamingo himself, so the company on Doflamingo's part is irrelevant to Luffy's status.

If they went one on one, it'd end the same way: Luffy on the ground unable to move, and Doflamingo primed to finish him off, except this time Luffy won't have dozens of people helping him.

Luffy used alot of haki during tournament also took a beating from bellamy he just took the blows and also was attacked by the glue dude forgot his name lol so luffy wasnt at full health or power. i believe luffy can beat dd full power high diff.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Luffy used alot of haki during tournament

Old shit already debunked. He ate afterwards, so his energy would have been replenished. The fact that it was only stated he was using his Haki too much when he went Gear Fourth indicates that sustained Haki drains too much, but coating your limbs momentarily for a strike doesn't.

also took a beating from bellamy he just took the blows and also was attacked by the glue dude forgot his name lol so luffy wasnt at full health or power. i believe luffy can beat dd full power high diff.

Luffy was only held down in one spot by Trebol. He was never actually hurt by him. Bellamy's punches are in no way on the same level of Gamma Knife. Luffy wasn't at full health, but he was far closer to full health than Doflamingo was, and still would have died without help.