Could Sasuke have Taken Konoha?

[Natsu Shazneel]

Dam lol so how does he defeat SM naruto?

By using Sakura.

 

[KesOnFire]

By using Sakura.

lmfaooooo truuu

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

lmfaooooo truuu

I think Sasuke could take on Kohona. Here's why..

He could have easily used Sakura to spy on Tsunade's ways of running the village. Making her implement traps for him to lay down the attack. After knowing all the secrets of Kohona he could use them as a way to kill the security forces stealthly. Killing off important ninja one by one. Making the Kohona forces weaker. After that, all that is left is Naruto. He would try to stop Sasuke any chance he could get. However when Sakura does a u-turn on him by joining Sasuke. He would completly be mind****ed. Making him mentally weaker to fight any longer. Sasuke would use that oppertunuty as a advatange to kill him off for good. Destroying Kohona in the process.

^ see

 

[KesOnFire]

^ see

I believe it she is good with that

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[Natsu Shazneel]

I believe it she is good with that

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Sakura has been destroying houses for fun lately. She is already doing her job.

 

[KesOnFire]

Sakura has been destroying houses for fun lately. She is already doing her job.

Someone not to take lightly for sure

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

So a Sasuke who is going blind mid diff Bee who pretty much killed Sasuke 3 times and that was Bee not being serious; this was also a 1 on 4 fight. Bee in Version 1 3 tails cloak mode moves so fast that Sasuke needed Karin to keep track of Bee for them.



So you're saying Sasuke would lose unless you give him these extra things? Anyways he would still lose, his eye sight was weakening. Konoha has SM Naruto with 3 giant toads and 2 toad Sages, the Hyuuga clan, Sarutobi clan, Shino's clan, Nara clan with Shikaku making the strategies, Ino's clan, choji's clan,the Hokage's Anbu black opts, Danzo's Anbu black opts, Tsunade who can heal everyone with her slugs, Sai, Kakashi, Sakura, Shizune, other K11 members, and the hundreds of other Chunins and Jounins in the village.

Pein tricked Konoha into thinking there were only 1 intruder at first, Sasuke can't do this since he haven't shown the ability to summon his teammates. Sasuke can't keep Susanoo up that long; it wastes his chakra, weakens his sight, and aches ever cell in his body plus ground attacks can pull one over on Sasuke. Shino's clan's bugs eat chakra so imagine what they do to Susanoo. Amaterasu can be sealed if used on buildings or people; the village already knew about Amaterasu from Jiraiya (Kakashi mentions Amaterasu after seeing it even though he never saw it before) so they would have counter measures just in case.

Shikaku made strategies that held down the Juubi, Obito, and Edo Madara for a few minutes so I'm sure he can come up with strategies to beat Sasuke's team plus Konoha out number Sasuke's team. Kakashi kills Suigetsu, Shikamaru takes down Juugo, Hinata/Tenten/Ino/Sakura (anyone) takes down Karin, Shino takes down Kimimaru, Naruto takes down Sasuke whe the 3 giant toads take out the sound 4. They'll do some damage and kill some ninjas but no where near what Pein did. It would take EMS Sasuke to do so.



You mean like how the only threat is Sasuke and Kimimaru? Naruto beats Sasuke, Shikamaru and Choji beats Kimimaru, Tenten and/or Hinata beats Karin, Kakashi beats Suigetsu, Sakura and Shizune beats Juugo, Sai with 3 other Anbu members beats sound 4 and the thousands of Chunins and Jounins in Konoha eats popcorn and watch this happen since they won't be needed.



Naruto beat all but Deva path himself plus Kurama is Naruto's power so at the end of the day it's still Naruto's win. Shino's clan's bugs eat chakra so there goes Sasuke's Susanoo. Sakura or Taunade's punch breaks the ground under Susanoo which uproot Susanoo or Kakashi goes underground and attacks Sasuke from the ground. Naruto has 3 giant toads, Gamabuta alone was able to handle Shukaku and Susanoo isn't on Bijuu level since its PS which is on Bijuu level. So 3 Giant toads can take on Susanoo and as for Amaterasu, they can poof back to their home which leaves the Amaterasu since summoning is a S/T jutsu (Manda poofed when he had Gamabuta's blade stabbed in his mouth but the blade didn't poof with him. Plus Konoha has ninjas who can use sealing jutsus so Amaterasu could just get sealed away. Frog song ends this the fastest though, Sasuke also lacks any info on it so dust cloud to hide their movements then frog song to end the fight which also takes down Susanoo as Kabuto's weaker sound genjutsu did.

I made the conditions stop complaining. And it was completely obvious that when Sasuke went to destroy Konoha, he was taking Taka and Obito with him, and Obito arguably could solo this Konoha so I switched him for the Sound Five. He has a contract with Snakes, so it is an ability he has access to. Honestly, I'm just replacing Taka for Oros invasion. Sound Genjutsu has no counter other than possibly Kakashi, Sakura, and Kurenai. There is not generic sealing that seals Amaterasu, it requires a special scroll. The only extra thing I gave them was the Blastsword, to destroy the Village. Shinos bugs will not survive Amaterasu, nor will they go undetected. Tayuya can not be countered easily, so she will be extremely dangerous. Kimimaru is Hebi Sasuke level, minus the genjutsu and cut the speed. He is extremely dangerous. Kidomaru will have to be taken on by a Hyuuga, or someone with long range, and his spiderwebs can be used as crowd control. Jirobo can take Chouji until he butterflies, and Sakon/Ukon will have to fight Kiba. No one present can take Suigetsu while he has the Blastsword except a Raiton user. Juugo can decimate the fodder.

You can't look at this like a battle royale. It's an unexpected attack, and The Leaf will lose a lot of lives of first response, and evacuation. When we look at pure military and Economic damage, they will succeed in destroying the leaf.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Dam lol so how does he defeat SM naruto?

I think that Danzo fight Sasuke can Mid Diff Sasuke as long as Karin stays alive, to fight a strategic battle and heal him. Otherwise, he will Extreme Diff him, and be Exhausted after. But due to the Hawk, and Naruto not being able to afford breaking his chakra, Karin will not die.
I'm not saying it'll be easy, but if Sasukes Team has 10 Points at the beginning of the Invasion, Naruto is only taking 6.

 

[KesOnFire]

I think that Danzo fight Sasuke can Mid Diff Sasuke as long as Karin stays alive, to fight a strategic battle and heal him. Otherwise, he will Extreme Diff him, and be Exhausted after. But due to the Hawk, and Naruto not being able to afford breaking his chakra, Karin will not die.
I'm not saying it'll be easy, but if Sasukes Team has 10 Points at the beginning of the Invasion, Naruto is only taking 6.

Bold---->lmfaoooo

WTH is a hawk gonna do? He got gaint frogs my ni44a

You think Naruto gonna watch him just bite karin and heal?

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Bold---->lmfaoooo

WTH is a hawk gonna do? He got gaint frogs my ni44a

You think Naruto gonna watch him just bite karin and heal?

Lmao horrible mistake.
The point is, without it, Karin is a sitting duck, but she can be mobile and provide an overall look of the land scape, and she can sense what is happening and alert his teamates. She is extremely valuable, and the Hawk should keep her mobile and Safe. The toads don't have enough reach to accurately hit Karin, who will sense them from any direction. And Most of All, a fresh Karin can restore Sasuke at least twice in a day. Naruto won't have time to attack her.

 

[UltraPain]

Team Taka gets laughably annihilated.

- Kakashi's lightning element fries Suigetsu.
- 7th gate Gai wrecks Jugo with speed + force just like A.
- Sensor squads reverse locate Karin and take her out.
- Sasuke's hawk is diced up by 3 boss toads (who jump incredibly high), or an army of Sai's ink birds with Shinobi on them.
- Ma and Pa use frogsong on Sasuke and Naruto goes in for the neg diff.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Team Taka gets laughably annihilated.

- Kakashi's lightning element fries Suigetsu.
- 7th gate Gai wrecks Jugo with speed + force just like A.
- Sensor squads reverse locate Karin and take her out.
- Ma and Pa use frogsong on Sasuke and Naruto goes in for the neg diff.

Karin can completely suppress herself, and She will be at Sasukes side. Suigetsu will not engage Kakashi, and if he does, it will be a waste of Kakashi reserves, if he can dodge the Blastsword. Team Gai is not in the village, Frog Song needs immense prep, and will kill whoever hears it, other than the user. Not for when many people are around. Tayuya is far more versatile.

 

[UltraPain]

Karin can completely suppress herself, and She will be at Sasukes side. Suigetsu will not engage Kakashi, and if he does, it will be a waste of Kakashi reserves, if he can dodge the Blastsword. Team Gai is not in the village, Frog Song needs immense prep, and will kill whoever hears it, other than the user. Not for when many people are around. Tayuya is far more versatile.

- Karin cannot supress her chakra while scanning, which was shown when C was reverse searching her. Karin is then useless if she can't openly use her sensing, and every time she does use it the sensor squad closes in.
- Suigetsu has no way to "not engage" Kakashi. Kakashi is an excellent tracker and will hunt his ass down and eliminate the threat, not choose to" save reserves" against an enemy clearly attacking his home. He could also just use kamui on him.
- Without team Gai around Jugo still gets overwhelmed by Tsunade, ANBU, Sakura, Shikamaru, Shikaku, Choza, Choji, Inoichi, Kiba Cerberus, Shino, Hinata, boss toads, etc.
- SM Naruto can clearly hold his own against Sasuke for prep time of frog song. And no, Frog song effects the target only, which was proven by Jiraiya since he was never effected by it. Also, why would they prep that jutsu against Pain again if they knew it would hit Naruto too? That'd be dumb.

 

[Phoenix110]

Okay here's how it goes: sasuke sets parts of the village on fire with ama. The flames continue to grow out of control since no one can put them out. Sasuke brings down kirin and wipes out the village

And Narita and all other Konoha shinobis just watch him plus Narita could easily counter Kirin with Rasenshuriken

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

- Karin cannot supress her chakra while scanning, which was shown when C was reverse searching her. Karin is then useless if she can't openly use her sensing, and every time she does use it the sensor squad closes in.
- Suigetsu has no way to "not engage" Kakashi. Kakashi is an excellent tracker and will hunt his ass down and eliminate the threat, not choose to" save reserves" against an enemy clearly attacking his home. He could also just use kamui on him.
- Without team Gai around Jugo still gets overwhelmed by Tsunade, ANBU, Sakura, Shikamaru, Shikaku, Choza, Choji, Inoichi, Kiba Cerberus, Shino, Hinata, boss toads, etc.
- SM Naruto can clearly hold his own against Sasuke for prep time of frog song. And no, Frog song effects the target only, which was proven by Jiraiya since he was never effected by it. Also, why would they prep that jutsu against Pain again if they knew it would hit Naruto too? That'd be dumb.

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Thread is done. You can all go back to your caves/ under your bridges.

 

[Phoenix110]

This is why I thought Sasuke has the advantage. He can 1 V 1 Naruto while his flames and his team destroys K11 and Snakes take the Village. Kakashi is the only Jonin capable of combating Sasuke head on, who is currently in the village, and there is the Gap in time before Naruto gets there, Sasuke can and will kill that Kakashi, and Chouza.

The Snakes and the Time Period before Naruto arrives are the biggest dangers. Sasuke can easily run through fodder, he defeated 1000 without dropping blood, and his Amaterasu will eventually release Kirin, which will make a crater, though not one of Pains, but it is direct. More Lethal.

This is one of the many scenarios that could go down and yet you think this is the most plausible. Doesn't it occur to you that there might be other ways or other variations of the fights and this Konoha invasion??

 

[Phoenix110]

There are problems with your theory. Kimimaru takes any K11 member at the time, and the Sound Four have Tayuya, who can't be countered. Jugo and Suigetsu are more than enough to take on fodder anbu. Kakashi can open exactly one gate, not helping anybody. Danzo didn't get involved with Pain, why would he hunt Sasuke, remember exact conditions. MS Sasuke is very far Above Pain Arc Kakashi, Asuma is dead, and Kurenai is done. There are no competent people to challenge Sasuke other than Tsunade, who loses. What is left of the village has to fight all of the snakes, which aren't going down easy. The Sound Four Can even lock Naruto in a barrier while Sasuke destroys the village.

I basically made this thread to show people like you that he had the means to challenge Konoha.

Taka+Sound 5= K10 because Tayuya and Kimi
Snakes>Fodder and Whatever Semi Powerful People are in the Village
Sasuke> Tsunade and Kakashi
Sasuke after exhausting his Chakra on the attack < Naruto
Sasuke Team> Naruto

And Amaterasu cannot be extinguished. The Village will be destroyed for 12 Days and Nights before they can begin rebuilding, but there won't be a revival. He will have destroyed 4/5 of Konoha.

Reading this bs irks me but it can't be helped
Firstly Kimimaro vs any member of the k11. I'll just give him Neji Hinata and Shikamaru
Secondly since guy is out of the picture the Kakashi and the K11 takes them
Thirdly Suigetsu and Jugo are the only visible problem so far but am sure they'd have their hands busy with the fodders
Sasuke vs Tsunade . The fact that you think she can't hold her own against Sasuke is laughable. Considering she can tank most of his techniques and just one punch would probably kill him plus his susano is of very little protection given the fact that she can break it
Her Summoning is enough for his snakes and Naruto makes it in time to kill the opposing team off and rescue Sasuke. You've give your shirt fanboy analysis so here is mine

 

[Phoenix110]

He did not say it was fodder genjutsu z.z He said Sasuke's tsukuyomi was weaker than Itachi's who was a Genjutsu prodigy at that time but Sasuke has shown more Genjutsu feats than anyone on NV by capturing all 9 bijuus at the same time in Tsukuyomi.

After the so6p gave him chakra and he awakened rinnegan!!! Just wtf is your point

 

[Phoenix110]

Sure but naruto can make shadow clones like he did against pain. And sasuke doesn't know about the expanding rasenshiriken. Also the sound ninja are irrelevant since the leaf already have Intel on them and the children have defeated them, when they were children. I think it all comes down to everyone vs sasuke and sasuke won't win. Kakashi can easily take out suigetsu, Karin, and jugo. Remember lightning style immobilizes suigetsu. Karin can't compete with kakashi. And kakashi takes out jugo easily. Not to mention this is a whole village were talking about. Shikamaru and his dad also are there. Choji and his dad. Ino and her dad. Kiba and his entire clan. Shinos entire clan. And the hyuga clan. The leaf takes this. And with enough fighting if sasukes team didn't already lose, gai arrives. And Yamato isn't far. Oh yeah and sai is there. Sakura is fodder but she's there too

This already ended the thread

 

[Selan]

Kakashi warps him with Kamui. GG Sasuke.