Could Sasuke have Taken Konoha?

[Zee U]

For one, Pain was a way worse danger than Sasuke. Nearly no intel on his abilities, way more experience in attacking villages and settlements and a better arsenal in order to do so (Sasuke lacks something like CST), of course more experience with his better eye (Sasuke was going blind too). Danzou would probably step in too unlike when againts Pain and he alone can push Sasuke to high diff or defeat him with Koto. If the battle goes like in canon though:

- S5 can hold back weaker clans like Inuzuka, Akimichi etc.
- Suigetsu and Juugo can take care of stronger opponents like strong Jounins (Ino-Shika-Cho for example)
- Sasuke and Karin can take care of Kakashi.

Assuming each team wins againts Konoha's forces, we end with Sasuke vs Tsunade. Unlike Pain he can't destroy Konoha in one blow, so after roasting the Hokage he is met with a angry force of survivors. Using a wide scale Amaterasu with Juugo's wind like chakra propulsor as a booster is a possibility, a very high chakra taxing one though. Then SM Naruto comes vs a Sasuke with deteriorated eyesight, not by very much though. Boss toads are Genjutsu'd and gang up on their summoners until Shima uses Reverse Kuchiyose. Basically Naruto w/ Ma and Pa vs Sasuke and Taka (S5 members too if they managed to survive), where he gets mid diffed at the very best. We encounter some possibilities:

- Naruto gets cooked by Ama or diced into Doritobitos by Kusanagi
- Sasuke puts him into Genjutsu, capture complete
- Someone jumps in, dies and KN6 happens. Everyone gets nuked.

Quite frankly Sasuke never seriously wanted to destroy Konoha with just MS, he didn't even know his own powers yet and was emotionally destroyed. If he took Obito's advice and implanted Itachi's eyes right away, then went to Konoha, even alone, everyone would have been dead. No one measured up to EMS until Naruto showed BM hundreds of chapters later, would have been a horrible stomp.

 

[Itachi Edo]

I think Sasuke with that team wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to where Pain got during his invasion. I'm actually putting a video up on YouTube in a couple of weeks discussing this. Sasuke at the 5 Kage arc wouldn't have been able to destroy the village, not even with that team. No Team Guy, but there's enough talent in the village to hold team Taka at bay.

 

[BlacLord™]

He could've destroyed it, but you know the elites like Kakashi would survive.

MS Kakashi alone would give Sasuke a hard time. Leaving the likes of Chōza and Shikaku to deal with Taka, it's just a no-no even if the village got destroyed.

 

[Aznkidd]

the only reasons Pain can attack Konoha are:
Danzo is a pssy cat
Surprise attack with village aoe attack/summon
Jutsu that is on god level (take soul, pull/push, revive, negate all jutsu.........)
last but not lease, possesed a super wide range attack.

edit: Zee U, are you dreaming in fanfic section ?

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

- Karin cannot supress her chakra while scanning, which was shown when C was reverse searching her. Karin is then useless if she can't openly use her sensing, and every time she does use it the sensor squad closes in.
- Suigetsu has no way to "not engage" Kakashi. Kakashi is an excellent tracker and will hunt his ass down and eliminate the threat, not choose to" save reserves" against an enemy clearly attacking his home. He could also just use kamui on him.
- Without team Gai around Jugo still gets overwhelmed by Tsunade, ANBU, Sakura, Shikamaru, Shikaku, Choza, Choji, Inoichi, Kiba Cerberus, Shino, Hinata, boss toads, etc.
- SM Naruto can clearly hold his own against Sasuke for prep time of frog song. And no, Frog song effects the target only, which was proven by Jiraiya since he was never effected by it. Also, why would they prep that jutsu against Pain again if they knew it would hit Naruto too? That'd be dumb.

No. Karin is a far more adept sensor than normal, and to hit her, they would need range and speed of the hawk, which was pretty fast.
Anything Kakashi does to Suigetsu will require lots of chakra, as Suigetsu is more than adept enough to clash with Raikiri, from Pain Arc Kakashi, and his sword will overpower Kakashi in CQC. He'll need to use running beast, which will take a substantial amount of chakra , which will make him much less of a threat to Sasuke.
You have to remember that this is an invasion in the village. Tsunade can't destroy the village, neither can Kiba or Sakura. And, only Tsunade will survive Jugos Chakra Blast. You also forget the 4 Boss sized Snakes that'll be rampaging the village. Anbu, (the boss toads don't come until Naruto does,) will not be able to kill the snakes, much like they couldn't in part one. It will most likely take a Chouza level person, per snake.
SM Naruto can hold his own, but not while protecting Ma and Pa, especially if Karin alerts Sasuke.
Sasuke takes it, 6/10.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Reading this bs irks me but it can't be helped
Firstly Kimimaro vs any member of the k11. I'll just give him Neji Hinata and Shikamaru
Secondly since guy is out of the picture the Kakashi and the K11 takes them
Thirdly Suigetsu and Jugo are the only visible problem so far but am sure they'd have their hands busy with the fodders
Sasuke vs Tsunade . The fact that you think she can't hold her own against Sasuke is laughable. Considering she can tank most of his techniques and just one punch would probably kill him plus his susano is of very little protection given the fact that she can break it
Her Summoning is enough for his snakes and Naruto makes it in time to kill the opposing team off and rescue Sasuke. You've give your shirt fanboy analysis so here is mine

The Entirety of Team Guy is out. Katsuya stalemated Manda, she can't beat him, the three serpents, and Aoda. This is me giving you an advantage, because as we all know, there are many more snakes that he can summon, given the way it works, but I'll argue with them.

The Anbu will have its hands tied protecting the Village from the Three Headed Serpent, and remember, exact conditions. They don't know Sasuke is there, and he showed the ability to Sneak into Villages. Sasuke defeated 1000 chuunin without killing them, or dropping blood, and that was Hebi. If he can even kill 20 of the Anbu, he will have severely weakened Konoha's defense, and Karin can locate exact who he needs to kill. Element of Surprise. If releases the sound four into different parts of the village, keeping Kimimaru with him, Tayuya can incapacitate an entire section of the village, no one has a proper counter to her jutsu in the leaf. Her jutsu is sound, so if she sneaks, no one will know she's attacking, by the time you hear it, you've been caught. She can kill the unsuspecting villagers with her Trolls. No one can directly encounter Tayuya, without a strong team. By the time Sasuke makes it apparent he is attacking the Village, he can summon the Snakes in different sections of the village, spreading them thin. He can then burn the village to the ground with Amaterasu, and have Karin replenish him. They will heat the Air, prepping Kirin. Remember, the Leafs goal is to protect the village, killing Sasuke would be a strict Anbu/Jonin job. Due to the Nature of a fire, the village would probably evacuate, seeing as they can't just take shelter, and ninja would end up escorting them. This severely lowers their military power by at least a fifth, which would've been thinned already by the Snakes, and Sasuke assassinating the Anbu, like he already showed he would do in an invasion attempt. At this point in time, only the weaker members of K11 are present, none being Stronger than Jugo except Sakura and Shino. You said Kakashi would target Suigetsu, but, Suigetsu has the Blastsword, which is extremely dangerous for him to do, and an overall risk to the village. He would target Sasuke, but he can't warp him, because he hasn't shown to warp through solid objects, and Susanoo is basically a strong glass shield. Transparent, but Solid. He would get mid diffed, but not actually hurt Sasuke, he doesn't have the means to break Susanoo. Kimimaru was destroying an entire Platoon in the war. He is stronger than any Pain Arc K11 member, and no K11 member Can Damage Suigetsu, or Survive Jugos blast. The Blastsword would rip straight through whatever fodder are still in Konoha, and every member of The Sound Five except Sakon Ukon, and Jirobo are still stronger than their counterparts, but Kimimaru and Jugo close the gap.

Tsunade would be busy protecting the village, as Sakura can't do it, and she obviously valued the villager lives over beating an Enemy.

Basically, it comes down to SM Naruto vs A Weakened Sasuke, Karin, and Kimimaru, all there who will inevitably still be alive by the time Naruto gets there. Again, not adding Jugo and Suigetsu is me being Generous. But Sasuke and Kimimaru can take Naruto with Karin Supporting. I put War Arc Karin, for those who will say it wasn't in her the whole time, and if Kushina could hold Kurama, and Karin was even comparable, she should be able to hold a Boss Summon, if not pierce them.

6/10 Sasuke destroys the village

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

okay he loses cause unlike pain he can't confuse the barrier corpe and then you guys act like shikamaru, inoichi, team choza, tsunades anbu, konohamaru will just stand and watch and please hinata wrecks karin one on one

 

[sasuketenten]

Could the Sasuke that fought Danzo have taken Konoha, or even get as far as Pain?

Let's Say Sasuke brings Jugo, War Arc Karin, and Suigetsu, with the Blastsword, along with Kimimaru and the Sound Four.
This is the Same Konoha that fought Pain, and for whatever reason, Team Guy is not present. (No Eight Gates GG )

In Destruction or Casualties?

Its so fuuny to me that you went out of your way to say war arc karin as if that some sort of a real thing or powered up form of karin because guess what... its not. In response to your question..no i dont think that team taka and the sound four could pull off what pain did at that point and time.

 

[Umari Senju]

I think Sasuke could take on Kohona. Here's why..

He could have easily used Sakura to spy on Tsunade's ways of running the village. Making her implement traps for him to lay down the attack. After knowing all the secrets of Kohona he could use them as a way to kill the security forces stealthly. Killing off important ninja one by one. Making the Kohona forces weaker. After that, all that is left is Naruto. He would try to stop Sasuke any chance he could get. However when Sakura does a u-turn on him by joining Sasuke. He would completly be mind****ed. Making him mentally weaker to fight any longer. Sasuke would use that oppertunuty as a advatange to kill him off for good. Destroying Kohona in the process.

A few things wrong here Shaz:

1) Sakura isn't the lineup here. And Sakura wouldn't help him destroy Kanoha. She even took it upon herself to end him (though in the end she couldn't bring herself to do it)

2.) At this point and time in the arc (and knowing now what we know about Tsunade) Sasuke wouldn't even make it to Pain. The 5th Hokage would have stomped him Susanoo and all. (high difficulty of course) Think I am trolling? Just look at her fight with Madara. Sasuke was nowhere near his level during the Pain invasion arc.

3.) Sakura and even Hinata can handle Taka. K11 could handle Sound 4 alone. Hell they beat Sound 4 as genin so now that they are chunin/jonin in won't take long (barring Sasuke of course) never mind the other Jonin on hand.

4) If he even managed to make to Pain.....Sasuke gets Negged. He was already losing his sight. And even with Intel look how hard Naruto had to struggle to beat him.

5.) NARUTO

6.) DANZO and Root

7.) ANBU

OT: For all the reasons mention above. Sasuke and Taka could not take Kanoha.

funny how u restrict his progess, I could do the same. but even so no team gai, no Kurama mode naruto and sasuke wins

he has susanno and that's more than enough for anyone in konoha

and btw naruto didn't beat the paths kurama did. naruto lost had kurama had to leak and go 8 tails to win

@ first line in Bold: Tsunade would snap Susanoo into little pieces. This version of Susanoo was incomplete and nowhere near the level of Edo Rinnegan Madara's. Plus Tsunade doesn't have to worry about Rinnegan and Mokuton attacks from Sasuke, so Sasuke's fight ends there. Amateratsu? Katon? Tsunade was slapping away Maddy's katon and taking stab wounds left and right and still managed to smash his Susanoo and even tag him a few times. Sasuke is not that strong here so he won't fair as well. Amateratsu? Not sure how well that would work with Tsunade since she already has Katsuyu on the field and attached to everyone doing remote healing. And with Sensors and ANBU around Tsunade at the time some jonin will probably just jump in the way and take the Amateratsu for her...If Kakashi doesn't step in and Kamui it away.

@2nd part in bold: Naruto beat 5 paths of Pain so I don't know where you are getting your logic from. He struggled with Deva Path and that one is where Kurama came in. The other 5 were smashed by SM Naruto. Some of them even twice.

 

[ultraChalk]

Dealing with Kakashi, Choji, and Shikamaru alone would have pushed him to high diff. Throw K11, a couple hundred more jonin into the mix and Tsunade and it's a no go.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

A few things wrong here Shaz:

1) Sakura isn't the lineup here. And Sakura wouldn't help him destroy Kanoha. She even took it upon herself to end him (though in the end she couldn't bring herself to do it)

Sakura has attempted to leave the village twice for him. I doubt she cares for the village more than her love for Sasuke. Lol She is a easy manipulitive tool for him.

2.) At this point and time in the arc (and knowing now what we know about Tsunade) Sasuke wouldn't even make it to Pain. The 5th Hokage would have stomped him Susanoo and all. (high difficulty of course) Think I am trolling? Just look at her fight with Madara. Sasuke was nowhere near his level during the Pain invasion arc.

I don't think you are trolling. If anything I am sure you will think I am trolling. Because that is any Sakura fap's counter to the truth about her character.

The fifth Hokage won't stomp Sasuke if he plays it smart, by not going for a all out attack on the village. Using one of there people is the best way to destroy the village. Because it will be unexpected. Hence why Sakura is a easy target for him. Because she is the only one in the village who values him more than the village itself.

3.) Sakura and even Hinata can handle Taka. K11 could handle Sound 4 alone. Hell they beat Sound 4 as genin so now that they are chunin/jonin in won't take long (barring Sasuke of course) never mind the other Jonin on hand.

4) If he even managed to make to Pain.....Sasuke gets Negged. He was already losing his sight. And even with Intel look how hard Naruto had to struggle to beat him.

5.) NARUTO

6.) DANZO and Root

7.) ANBU

Now as for these points they have nothing to do with my points. Because I was never talking about an all out attack. I was referring to more stealth based.

 

[SageOro]

Danzo KA gg.

 

[LightSo6p]

This thread is bs I just read something saying sm naruto can't beat bee he's not one his lvl but ems sasuke stronger then him even tho he dead 3 time in that fight mangafact and that don't even matter what do is last night when I was reading y'all put taka at kage lvl when they hit him twice an sasuke was the one to do it both times.they showed no sign that they got better and the war arc or anything don't even remembering them them try a fight what I seen they were running. Its crazy people down play naruto so much just because they don't like him and then say that's not why but if you putting taka over sm naruto they u are a hater even the person that wrote this thread hater because you are one of the people that said it

 

[ishaankun]

sasuke eye is gift of hios brother not his own which has its limitation just like naruto gets his half ability from kurama

 

[leezagboola]

Nah, not back when he was fighting Danzo, maybe during the 4th War arc when everyone else was away fighting he could have attacked the civilians and basic shinobi that were left with orochimaru and taka.

 

[Kiro1]

He loses to Mitotic Tsunade and Sakura.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

This thread is bs I just read something saying sm naruto can't beat bee he's not one his lvl but ems sasuke stronger then him even tho he dead 3 time in that fight mangafact and that don't even matter what do is last night when I was reading y'all put taka at kage lvl when they hit him twice an sasuke was the one to do it both times.they showed no sign that they got better and the war arc or anything don't even remembering them them try a fight what I seen they were running. Its crazy people down play naruto so much just because they don't like him and then say that's not why but if you putting taka over sm naruto they u are a hater even the person that wrote this thread hater because you are one of the people that said it

It actually is a valid comment. Naruto is slower than Bee, and has less destructive power, and Bee is immune to frog song. Sasuke when he fought Bee had injuries from Itachi, which were stated to be Hindering him, he had No Susanoo or Enton, and his bodily movements would've been slower due to being injured. A non injured Sasuke at that time would still probably lose in taijutsu, though be far closer that last time, but Amy version with Susanoo pretty much wins. Especially when you go above ribcage. And I never said that any member of taka other than Sasuke was above him, which is true.

Taka was also responsible for severely damaging spiral Zetsu and The Statue, when the rest of the alliance were being steamrolled.

IMO, they're all about Kimimaru Level but each of them has a unique ability that makes them more valuable than he. Karin Senses and Heals, Suigetsu is liquid and can change his physical strength, Jugo can shape-shift and speak to animals.

 

[Sonne2]

Sasuke would cause many casualties via thunderclap, but after that he'll get soloed by naruto, followed by the infamous talk-no-jutsu.

 

[3MESSIAH]

only if he had PS

but he didnt have it at the time so no

 

[Ansatsuken]

You think he is Madara.

No I dont think he can decimate and take over Konoha. To many elite ninja that are very clever in devising a strategy.