Could Sasuke have Taken Konoha?

[Char Aznable]

He did not say it was fodder genjutsu z.z He said Sasuke's tsukuyomi was weaker than Itachi's who was a Genjutsu prodigy at that time but Sasuke has shown more Genjutsu feats than anyone on NV by capturing all 9 bijuus at the same time in Tsukuyomi.

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi. Whenever he used genjutsu with MS, it was always Sharingan Genjutsu.

Tsukiyomi distorts a victims perception of time. Only Itachi has it. Both Obito and Danzo commented that Sasuke genjutsu isn't as good as Itachi's Tsukiyomi, but at the same time Tsukiyomi is a MS genjutsu, like Kotoamatsukami. You can't really compare to stock sharingan genjutsu.

 

[SatanicGod]

Lol. That sasuke couldn't even defeat gate keeper shinobies let alone whole village.

FYI, sasuke tried to enter cloud village and what happened to him and his team taka? You know itbetter.

Alone killer b killed him thrice times( thanks to juugo,Karin and suigetsu for saving that rat's ass) 3500 yards away from cloud village.

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He negged the gatekeeper

 

[salamander uchiha]

If sasuke even hurt Sakura or hinata in betting my money naruto goes full 9 tails just like pain arc and I doubt sasuke can counter that

It's called genjutsu son. And enton to. Once full 9 tails is released naruto dies.

 

[Char Aznable]

He could have just meant Susanoo is rare.

Follow this mate. All the way back to Part 1.

The appearance of the sharingan is rare.

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The Mangekyou Sharingan is rare for people who have the sharingan.

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Conflate that with Obito saying the susanno is rare for people who has MS.


Mangekyou and Susanno became like Super Saiyan over at DBZ. It was rare and legendary for a Saiyan to achieve, but as the story went on, anyone could have it.

 

[Kiro1]

Follow this mate. All the way back to Part 1.

The appearance of the sharingan is rare.

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The Mangekyou Sharingan is rare for people who have the sharingan.

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Conflate that with Obito saying the susanno is rare for people who has MS.


Mangekyou and Susanno became like Super Saiyan over at DBZ. It was rare and legendary for a Saiyan to achieve, but as the story went on, anyone could have it.

What? I think you just need MS to unlock Susanoo but MS is very rare.

 

[BrillyMac]

Naruto comes late, Tsunade isn't fast enough to hit Sasuke, and Kakashi can't Kamui him fast enough. The biggest advantage for Sasuke against Naruto is, Sasuke isn't spread out. All his power is concentrated, and lethal.

Sure but naruto can make shadow clones like he did against pain. And sasuke doesn't know about the expanding rasenshiriken. Also the sound ninja are irrelevant since the leaf already have Intel on them and the children have defeated them, when they were children. I think it all comes down to everyone vs sasuke and sasuke won't win. Kakashi can easily take out suigetsu, Karin, and jugo. Remember lightning style immobilizes suigetsu. Karin can't compete with kakashi. And kakashi takes out jugo easily. Not to mention this is a whole village were talking about. Shikamaru and his dad also are there. Choji and his dad. Ino and her dad. Kiba and his entire clan. Shinos entire clan. And the hyuga clan. The leaf takes this. And with enough fighting if sasukes team didn't already lose, gai arrives. And Yamato isn't far. Oh yeah and sai is there. Sakura is fodder but she's there too

 

[Osmon]

He obviously didn't say "fodder genjutsu". Who says that in Naruto? z.z

He had a 6 tomoe rinnegan and sage & possibly Hashi steroids for the tailed beasts...We're talking about MS Sasuke.

And why did this happen?

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Danzo said that Sasuke's genjutsu was weaker than Itachi's tsukuyomi, I may have been mistaken but still I don't see Konoha winning this one unless Sasuke's vision starts shittin'.

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi. Whenever he used genjutsu with MS, it was always Sharingan Genjutsu.

Tsukiyomi distorts a victims perception of time. Only Itachi has it. Both Obito and Danzo commented that Sasuke genjutsu isn't as good as Itachi's Tsukiyomi, but at the same time Tsukiyomi is a MS genjutsu, like Kotoamatsukami. You can't really compare to stock sharingan genjutsu.

But you have to accept that Sasuke's genjutsu feats >> Any genjutsu users on nv.

 

[KesOnFire]

How can he take Konoha out??? Someone please explain becuz MSsasuke gets rekted!!!! lol

 

[SatanicGod]

Kindly reread manga. Alone imperfect SM naruto>>> MS sasuke according to bz, 3rd son of kaguya who watch each and every batlle of uchihas and senjus.

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So how could sasuke even able to enter konoha when there are shinobis like gai, kakashi and somehow tsunade, which can rival JJ madara or rinnegan madara. I think k11 would be enough for killing whole team taka including sasuke.


Regarding killerbee, you know it better that he didn't go full on sasuke in his fight otherwise sasuke would turn into a roasted pig.

BZ: "I think"
Sasuke: "Idc"

 

[Char Aznable]

Danzo said that Sasuke's genjutsu was weaker than Itachi's tsukuyomi, I may have been mistaken but still I don't see Konoha winning this one unless Sasuke's vision starts shittin'.

With how much Sasuke was spamming during the 5 Kage arc, and the physical pain he said he was in; Sasuke will go blind or run out of chakra before completing his invasion. Especially if people like SM Naruto, Kakashi, Gai, Lee and Hiashi are there to defend the village.

But you have to accept that Sasuke's genjutsu feats >> Any genjutsu users on nv.

Well, not Madara since he genjutsu'ed the world with Infinite Tsukiyomi. But yeah, Sasuke's genjutsu feats can't be disputed.

 

[lndra]

Gai would or murdered his ass

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Danzo said that Sasuke's genjutsu was weaker than Itachi's tsukuyomi, I may have been mistaken but still I don't see Konoha winning this one unless Sasuke's vision starts shittin'.


But you have to accept that Sasuke's genjutsu feats >> Any genjutsu users on nv.

It starts shittin after 1 fight. A danzo lvl opponent who was pretty fodder tbh :l

Also Itachi or Shisui would have the better genjutsu feats by far if they got the Sasuke treatment.

 

[Char Aznable]

What? I think you just need MS to unlock Susanoo but MS is very rare.

Obito says that a sharingan that can unlock susanno is a rarity though. And Obito's knowledge about the Uchiha comes from Madara, who was alive during the Feudal Period and was the first person since Indra, to awaken the Mangekyou. The practice of killing a close friend was customary for Uchiha to try and awaken their MS. But, as Sasuke's father (who was leader of the Uchiha) states, only a few people ever got MS.


It's pretty bad. 3T already puts you a tier above most shinobi, but getting the higher levels and strongest ocular jutsus may be unattainable for you.

 

[Kiro1]

Obito says that a sharingan that can unlock susanno is a rarity though. And Obito's knowledge about the Uchiha comes from Madara, who was alive during the Feudal Period and was the first person since Indra, to awaken the Mangekyou. The practice of killing a close friend was customary for Uchiha to try and awaken their MS. But, as Sasuke's father (who was leader of the Uchiha) states, only a few people ever got MS.


It's pretty bad. 3T already puts you a tier above most shinobi, but getting the higher levels and strongest ocular jutsus may be unattainable for you.

It's a misconception I think that you need to kill your close friend to awaken it.

 

[KesOnFire]

It's a misconception I think that you need to kill your close friend to awaken it.

Doesn't have to be your best freind anyone dear to you works also

 

[Osmon]

With how much Sasuke was spamming during the 5 Kage arc, and the physical pain he said he was in; Sasuke will go blind or run out of chakra before completing his invasion. Especially if people like SM Naruto, Kakashi, Gai, Lee and Hiashi are there to defend the village.



Well, not Madara since he genjutsu'ed the world with Infinite Tsukiyomi. But yeah, Sasuke's genjutsu feats can't be disputed.

Gai wasn't in the village in this scenario and Hiashi is a fodder. This version of Sasuke is nerfed too much.

Anyone could have used Infinite Tsukuyomi if they were in Madara's position.

 

[Kiro1]

Doesn't have to be your best freind anyone dear to you works also

No, I think it is caused by trauma and witnessing a close friend die.

 

[KesOnFire]

No, I think it is caused by trauma and witnessing a close friend die.

Like I said it doesn't have to be a best friend -.-

 

[Kiro1]

Like I said it doesn't have to be a best friend -.-

Whatever

 

[Char Aznable]

Gai wasn't in the village in this scenario and Hiashi is a fodder. This version of Sasuke is nerfed too much.

Did you see what the Hyuga's Air Palm did to the Juubi (with no Kyubi cloak) and how Kaguya's air palm destroyed Sasuke's Perfect Susanno?

Don't underestimate the Hyuga.