Could itachi control his black flames like sasuke?
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Spartan117
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Moreover, Itachi transefered his Amaterasu and Tsukyomi to Sasuke. You cannot conclude that Itachi cannot manipulate Amaterasu just or summon parts of susano solely, because you didn't see him use it in the series. I doubt Itachi cannot manipualte Amaterasu.
But, it is open for debate as younger generations are supoose to surpass the old.
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Rambo200
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What the hell are you guys saying Itachi could control the flames. He shot out the flames and made it follow Sasuke until he cough him
Its the same thing as blaze technique. Itachi was a master at using all his techniques I'm sure he could use blaze technique.
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Its the same thing as blaze technique. Itachi was a master at using all his techniques I'm sure he could use blaze technique.
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Ramen Sage
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Itachi threw the fight for sasukes benefit, if he wanted to kill sasuke he would used sasunoo or the black flame on him from the start. He drug the battle out to bring out orochi and finally clean up his little bro. But to the point I believe itachi put the flames out just to push sasuke into using the cursed seal, and don't forget itachi knew zestu was watching the fight and couldn't throw the fight completely. In other words he knew his time was up and this fight was him passing the torch without putting sasuke in to much danger. If zestsu really thought itachi threw the fight lil bro would have a harder time dealing with madara.
Professor Sarutobi
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Well its true he couldn't blatetly lay down and lose, but thats because he had to draw orochimaru out of sasuke before the fight was over and to do that he had to force sasuke to use up chakra fighting hard and fast. I doubt he knew zetsu was watching the fight but its possible, and yeah so far it seems he could at the very least put them out and possibly shape them. the people who said they never saw blaze release were also people who had never seen amatsaru at all untill then and i doubt everyone has met itachi let alone survived fighting him.
Ramen Sage
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I say he knew zetsu was ther cause he knows madara. There's know way those to fight and madara isn't their or keeping tabs the fights just to important. plus before sasuke showed up to fight and itachi waited I'm sure itachi felt his presence, I don't see itachi being snuck up on anytime soon and if he did know he wasn't gonna tell madara's lackey to leave that might raise unneeded questions at such a vital time.
we haven't seen Itachi fight at full strength ever so we can't say for sure, but from what we do know; he can put out Amaterasu. We have not seen him control its shape with blaze release.
Like someone said though, he's more of a genjutsu specialist so it would make more sense if hes better at using Tsukiyomi than Amaterasu, which he was. I don't think there's anyone better in the manga as of yet who has shown to be better at using genjutsus than Itachi.
That being said, we haven't seen Itachi in a real battle where he is fighting at his maximum potential but hopefully we do during this war.
About Sasuke surpassing Itachi. This is how the manga works. The younger generation will surpass the previous one. Itachi and Kakashi have both stated this. Sasuke is made to surpass Itachi just as Naruto is made to surpass his father, Minato.
Sasuke is also Kishi's favourite so I don't see how he won't become one of the strongest besides Naruto. This is turning out to be another DBZ where all the supporting characters are left to rot while the 2 main characters shine. Goku and Vegeta anyone?
Like someone said though, he's more of a genjutsu specialist so it would make more sense if hes better at using Tsukiyomi than Amaterasu, which he was. I don't think there's anyone better in the manga as of yet who has shown to be better at using genjutsus than Itachi.
That being said, we haven't seen Itachi in a real battle where he is fighting at his maximum potential but hopefully we do during this war.
About Sasuke surpassing Itachi. This is how the manga works. The younger generation will surpass the previous one. Itachi and Kakashi have both stated this. Sasuke is made to surpass Itachi just as Naruto is made to surpass his father, Minato.
Sasuke is also Kishi's favourite so I don't see how he won't become one of the strongest besides Naruto. This is turning out to be another DBZ where all the supporting characters are left to rot while the 2 main characters shine. Goku and Vegeta anyone?
black uchiha
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I agree but when it comes to y...I think its because of da ms it self...if u look at sasuke's ms color it has more black dan red..witch would imo give him more control of it, itachi's is like a pin wheel spin'n like da hip-no rings witch would give him more control over gin...and so on
I think dat was 1 continuous use of da tech, not him manipulating it but imo its like dis if u start it u can stop it (i.e if tamari started a tornado den it would keep going and hurt her if she couldn't stop it da same goes for itachi or any other ninja)...i guess what I'm saying is ninjutsu don't have a mind of der own
NarutoVsGoku
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i looked at the title and thought No Itachi never showed control over Amaterasu like Sasuke did and your poll asked a could Itachi stop Amaterasu and i though no thinking he never showed that he did and voted No and read your 1st statement and was like shit yea he stopped Amaterasu so he could "colloect Sasuke's eyes." though to answer the title Itachi could not control it like Sasuke. Sasuke was able to manipulate the flames and have it gaurd him as shown in his fight with Raikage.
if anybody already said what i said im sorry for repeating i just wanted to give my 2 cents on this...
yondaimeminato
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yes he was able to manipulated amaterasu
but he wasn't able to combine amaterasu with susano. This requires a lot of chakra and practically fresh new MS eyes. Itachi's MS eyes were already worn out.
but he wasn't able to combine amaterasu with susano. This requires a lot of chakra and practically fresh new MS eyes. Itachi's MS eyes were already worn out.
PositiveEmotions
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i think itachi was able to control the black fames as well itachi was always stronger than sasuke if itachi was alive now itachi would still be stronger than sasuke
NarutoVsGoku
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-___- wow i just went through most of the comments and ppl really overestimate Itachi..
"I dont think anyone in the ninja world will surpass itachi"
"itachi is legendary he has perfected all of his MS techniques he just hasnt shown what he is fully capable off"
"Why would there be any doubt in Itachi's power.
After Madara he was the one who could use all the tech of Sharingan and knew all its secret. There r some powers that even Madara has also not achieved bt Itachi have"
smh and thats just some of it. cmon guys really tho some of ya give Itachi WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY more credit than he deserves. i cant wait for him to get pwned in the war so ppl dont use the "we haven't seen Itachi fight at full strength ever" excuse (btw another quote i randomly pulled out from this thread)
btw in my opinion Sasuke surpassed Itachi at the Kage summit. and i am aware that he didnt have a full Sasuno like Itachi and i still stand by Sasuke surpassing him.
"I dont think anyone in the ninja world will surpass itachi"
"itachi is legendary he has perfected all of his MS techniques he just hasnt shown what he is fully capable off"
"Why would there be any doubt in Itachi's power.
After Madara he was the one who could use all the tech of Sharingan and knew all its secret. There r some powers that even Madara has also not achieved bt Itachi have"
smh and thats just some of it. cmon guys really tho some of ya give Itachi WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY more credit than he deserves. i cant wait for him to get pwned in the war so ppl dont use the "we haven't seen Itachi fight at full strength ever" excuse (btw another quote i randomly pulled out from this thread)
btw in my opinion Sasuke surpassed Itachi at the Kage summit. and i am aware that he didnt have a full Sasuno like Itachi and i still stand by Sasuke surpassing him.
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black uchiha
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Lol yea but u do da same thing with da 4th and da 1st...but some of what day said is tru we have not seen him at full power, and sasuke has not (at dis point) passed itachi..but he will
NarutoVsGoku
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Itachi can lick my butt..
srry did i type that out loud?
um.. i doubt it friend.. while fighting Raikage someone noted that Sasuke's Amaterasu technique surpassed Itachi's.
ifs dont count... example: if Kakashi never got the sharingan from Obito, Kakashi would never be as good as he is... am i right? maybe, maybe not. can it be proven? no. does it even matter? no.
fact is Kakashi is good and has sharingan.
fact is Itachi is not alive (unless you count Edo Tensi) and fact Itachi never showed control over Amaterasu like Sasuke where he could combine it with Amaterasu and manipulate its shape
Judging by the quote you just pulled out of this thread (I haven't read all posts but i'm just gonna take your word for it) you are right, people do overestimate Itachi. But nonetheless you are wrong, Sasuke did not surpass his brother not even by a little.... Especially in the kage summits.... All he did in that summit was pulling susano'o until he was out of strength!!!!!! Itachi would have not only pulled susano'o much later than Sasuke, but when he did pulled it off he ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ELSE than just sitting around waiting for shit to happen!
DAMN!!! And I bet you believe Sasuke did kill Itachi in a fair fight too HU ?!
Anyway the TC brings a VERY good point I had never thought of it!! The black flames of Amateresu burn until they destroyed there target !!! Which the raikage new full well, thus cutting his own arm to prevent his death!
I answered No in the survey to hastly, I'm gonna change my answer to YES he could extinguish them :T_T:
NarutoVsGoku
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lol nah son im just a really good at argueing and debating.. im a master debater.. haha
but no way i still stand Itachi is overrated and Sasuke been passed him..
OMG are you 8 years old ?! REALLY? Ifs don't count?! I know what I am but what are you? Are you REALLY lowering your sick Sasugay's da best argument to that point? Dude Sasuke is gonna be stronger than Itachi like someone said... WHY? Cause Itachi was the better man and could not kill his younger brother... IF (Yes it counts) Itachi had EMS I don't want to know how BAD ASS he would be
NarutoVsGoku
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yo dont be judging me without even asking for my opinion man.. dats rude..
nah if you would have asked i would have said Itachi was weak, half blind, seconds away from dying but would have still been able to beat, kill and collect Sasuke's eyes if he wanted to but he didnt. instead he went all out, not holding back, pushing Sasuke to his very last limits to free him of Oro and to make him hero.
but everybody takes it just because Itachi planned to lose and die and that he was sick that he "Da Shit!" lol like theres nobody better than him and he was the strongest shinobi ever!!! it sucks cuz Sasuke never gets credit for the stuff he does. Itachi always gotta be better. Sasuke beat Itachi in the genjutsu battle and even tho Zetsu verified that ppl will still disagree. Sasuke manipulated amaterasu and someone at the summit said Sasuke surpassed Itachi's amaterasu but despite that ppl still keep Itachi on this pedalstol a step higher than Sasuke.. man i really hate that guy....lol
btw im not even a Sasuke fan i just think ya need to start giving Sasuke the credit he deserves cuz HELLO EVERYONE HE IS THE MAIN BAD GUY!!! and if you dont agree with me that he already surpassed Itachi realize that eventually he will