Thank you Inception, Thank you Professor Sarutobi! I see that my post was read by someone after all xD !!! But frankly let's not try to start a new fight about how Jiraiya would have beaten Itachi AND Kisame cause trust me, those Jiraiya fanboy's can be hardcore.... I remember posting in a thread who would win? Jiraiya vs Itachi (with a poll) against modaro we eventually had to come to a double conclusion. Modaro eventhough he was a big Jiraiya fan had to admit Jiraiya would have lost against Itachi during that first encounter, we agreed though that in shippuden He could have won using his Sage mode.
So let's just leave it at that. no need to argue again about it.