Correction on Amaterasu Debates.

[FloriGlori]

I would quite simply call that ability to sense evil desires and overall good reflexes. Minato was able to do the same, yet Hiraishin didn't increase his reflexes in any way.

 

[Oronagato]

YA right says the guy that is lying behide science,if u can't see that Naruto is faster than the raikage & the raikage is faster than amatesori then my friend

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hey smarty, please tell me where I said that raikage>naruto in speed before acting like an idiot. why not you read what i said before misquoting someone, genius.

btw thanks for giving me a good reason to laugh, you really are hillarious when you try to act smart. come on, keep on writing so i can laugh more. next time read what someone writes before jumping to rational assumptions. that's th 1st rule of debating, always try to evaluate the point of a text before commenting on it.

this is what hppen when you try to act smart with others, it only backfires and gives others a good reason to laugh at you. nice try

 

[Kirin Rei]

I would quite simply call that ability to sense evil desires and overall good reflexes. Minato was able to do the same, yet Hiraishin didn't increase his reflexes in any way.

So, you're trying to say that Naruto always had that reaction time and reflexes but just lacked the agility to utilize it and KM had no effect? :|

 

[TrollingSage]

Ah finally the message was clear,when solid english was lacking,the panel saved the day.

Is it really lack of solid english? I happen to think its just lack of comprehension on your part.

However,I didn't question the Raikage's speed in the 1st place,it's as clear as day he avoided it,but the entirety of my point is avoiding the flames once is not warrant to success,the kage avoided the initial flame,but nevertheless had no choice than to keep on pushing,hence he would have being hit by the flames he previously avoided if he dropped for a moment his speed,so i don't see the many choices he had.

And yeah everyone knows the kage is a dumbas*,but the dude actually could not just stop from pushing,is alternatives where to stay still or drop his speed and eat a full round of Amaterasu(not the fledgling flames that burnt his arms).

This is where you're wrong. Just in case you missed it, the flames weren't attacking Raikage. They were around sasuke. I repeat again the flames were static. Raikage moved towards to the flames not the other way round.
If Raikage had halted the attack, the flames would remain around sasuke.Hence the reason why Darui used the word SACRIFICE.
Really how are you not getting this? Its really really simple. There's a shield of flames around Sasuke. If A hits hit it, he gets hurt. If he doesnt the flames remains around A till Sasuke decides to attack.

 

[Lt Iceman]

Is it really lack of solid english? I happen to think its just lack of comprehension on your part.

Well silly me for being an engineer and lacking basic reading comprehension skills,well i guess all my ears spent on books was of no use*extreme sarcasm:activated*

This is where you're wrong. Just in case you missed it, the flames weren't attacking Raikage. They were around sasuke. I repeat again the flames were static. Raikage moved towards to the flames not the other way round.
If Raikage had halted the attack, the flames would remain around sasuke.Hence the reason why Darui used the word SACRIFICE.
Really how are you not getting this? Its really really simple. There's a shield of flames around Sasuke. If A hits hit it, he gets hurt. If he doesnt the flames remains around A till Sasuke decides to attack.

Hmm,how can i break it down in an A-B-C pattern,so you can fully grasp it.

1)A avoids the flames with V2 Sunshin.

2)Sasuke engulfs his susano'o with Amaterasu.

3)A notices the flames,but charges head on and gets burned by the flames.

What you're not getting is that A could not just stop or drop is speed to is V1 armor,as he would have gotten hit with the flames he avoided instants before,so he had to keep his cloak in V2 so he could keep avoiding the direct flames,but could not keep from harming Sasuke without getting it by the flames,so we can't say he avoided amaterasu,he partially was succesful,but in the entirety failed.

I repeat yet again it was a fight to death not a training session,so when Darui said he didn't believe a could sacrifice his arm,it needs to be taken into context as a matter of fact the only way of harming Sasuke was to force his way trough whether or not the kage was a dumbas*s or a genius.

Well he had another alternative,just drop the fight go back home and sip a cup of tea,and leave sasuke free to go and get Danzo

 

[TrollingSage]

Well silly me for being an engineer and lacking basic reading comprehension skills,well i guess all my ears spent on books was of no use*extreme sarcasm:activated*


Hmm,how can i break it down in an A-B-C pattern,so you can fully grasp it.

1)A avoids the flames with V2 Sunshin.

2)Sasuke engulfs his susano'o with Amaterasu.

3)A notices the flames,but charges head on and gets burned by the flames.

What you're not getting is that A could not just stop or drop is speed to is V1 armor,as he would have gotten hit with the flames he avoided instants before,so he had to keep his cloak in V2 so he could keep avoiding the direct flames,but could not keep from harming Sasuke without getting it by the flames,so we can't say he avoided amaterasu,he partially was succesful,but in the entirety failed.

I repeat yet again it was a fight to death not a training session,so when Darui said he didn't believe a could sacrifice his arm,it needs to be taken into context as a matter of fact the only way of harming Sasuke was to force his way trough whether or not the kage was a dumbas*s or a genius.

Well he had another alternative,just drop the fight go back home and sip a cup of tea,and leave sasuke free to go and get Danzo

See ok what the hell are you on about? Who talked about dropping to version 1? Putting words in my mouth now are we?:flaw: All he had to do is not stick his hand into the wall of black flames and disaster averted!
You do realize Sasuke had stopped stopped attacking and was only using amaterasu as a shield right?:flaw:
I repeat again Sasuke wasnt attacking. The flames were only AROUND
as a defence. They werent attacking for the last time.
Dont take this the wrong way but are you trolling or you're actually just thick?

 

[lanakau888]

amaterasu is not instant and never ever has been. It has been shown to travel. If it was instant, A wouldn't have been able to avoid it, yet we see the flames appear BEFORE A even moves, and yet A is fast enough to dodge it.

Plus chakra roar might can possibly dispell amaterasu.

 

[ShinobiMu]

well first a already doged it so if its light speed he couldnt have so no matter what u fail

when sasuke fought itachi he was hit with amaterasu after running away from it and ppl like to say oh itachi wasnt trying to hit sasuke with amaterasu but that is false cuz he did and if he a skilled shinobi like itachi didnt want to hit sasuke he wouldnt have but he did it jus took him sum time and sasuke isnt even that fast so amaterasu is easily dogeable it jus inextinguishable once hit that is it so again u fail big time

correct.

 

[Lt Iceman]

See ok what the hell are you on about? Who talked about dropping to version 1? Putting words in my mouth now are we?:flaw: All he had to do is not stick his hand into the wall of black flames and disaster averted!
You do realize Sasuke had stopped stopped attacking and was only using amaterasu as a shield right?:flaw:
I repeat again Sasuke wasnt attacking. The flames were only AROUND
as a defence. They werent attacking for the last time.
Dont take this the wrong way but are you trolling or you're actually just thick?

As for the part you called me "troll",well i guess my posting history on this board clearly shows i'm not one,just for instance,and silly you for thinking that in the 1st place.

As for the rest as i already said i find it mentally challenging to debate with your likes,so therefore i'm tired of you skipping trough my points conveniently.I'll be very glad to come back and have a debate when you'll actually take your time to address my posts point per point and not only what suits your likings,and more importantly the only shred of lore you can lach onto

Deuces,

I'll bless you with a response of mine only when you'll start applying what i aforementioned,if that doesn't happen then well let's leave it as a multifariousness of opinions,as further repeating ourselves will just do any good for the sake of the debate.

 

[Yo pappy]

Damn, this thread is filled with some serious fail. Anyways, I too have seen these threads claiming that Sasuke is screwed now that Naruto has Kurama, I'm not entirely sure about that. For one, we have yet to see just how fast Naruto is in full form, and we also haven't seen what new ocular jutsu Sasuke has acquired. I think a fully transformed Kurama is not going to be fast enough to dodge Amaterasu, and his size isn't really helping the cause either. If Naruto can stay in KM mode, and still have all the chakra he would in full form (which could very well be the case) then Sasuke is going to have his hands full. Otherwise, I don't see how fully transforming is going to help Naruto against Sasuke.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

With the whole Naruto being able to become Kurama himself now due to having full control, there has been a lot of people putting threads about Sasuke and Naruto fights: whose better part 3, whatever.


When I have looked through these threads (not just on this site), people have been saying that Naruto could just dodge the amaterasu.

I hate to say it but this is unfortunately NOT true.

The Amaterasu is an eye technique that affects whichever the eye can see, much like the Tsukiyomi.


Because the eye can see things at light speed (The speed of which light enters the eye to create the shapes and colors we see) the Amaterasu unfortunately and therefore travels at light speed.


So putting the topic to rest, from a scientific point of view, Naruto cannot dodge at light speed so cannot simply dodge the Amaterasu.


would be cool though

This is exactly what I mean when I say that people put too much into Kishimoto's words.

Is Masashi Kishimoto a scientist? No, he's a mangaka. Thus, science is invalid. I hate when people use scientific logic in Naruto because it almost always fails. It's a failure argument because how do you know if Kishimoto knows that the eye gets images at light speed? It's a sign that people read the manga too much.

I read posts every Wednesday from people saying that they "woke up early" to read Naruto manga.

Do you know what I do on Wednesday? Go work out/very occasional football practice (Wednesday we use as a recovery day mostly) or work. THEN by night when I get home I may check for the manga.

Grab a beer, go outside, **** a girl (or a guy, if you swing that way, by all means no judgment), smoke a blunt, but don't put spend time putting science into Naruto :-D.

 

[Melizzle]

The "speed" of sight isn't even a real thing. It's a function, but either way light travels faster than you can see it. They aren't the same. Ask any scientist and they will tell you this, so there's your realistic side of the debate.

The animated side: well look at any post above and you will see that in the Narutoverse, amaterasu can be dodged.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

if a in lighting armor can dodge amaterasu then naruto who dodged as fasted attack can dodge amteerasu to.

 

[Gatsuuga]

Sooooo does that mean that gaara's sand moves at light speed since he blocked it? Woo go gaara

 

[naruto1246]

As for the part you called me "troll",well i guess my posting history on this board clearly shows i'm not one,just for instance,and silly you for thinking that in the 1st place.

As for the rest as i already said i find it mentally challenging to debate with your likes,so therefore i'm tired of you skipping trough my points conveniently.I'll be very glad to come back and have a debate when you'll actually take your time to address my posts point per point and not only what suits your likings,and more importantly the only shred of lore you can lach onto

Deuces,

I'll bless you with a response of mine only when you'll start applying what i aforementioned,if that doesn't happen then well let's leave it as a multifariousness of opinions,as further repeating ourselves will just do any good for the sake of the debate.

im bored so i decided to make your post bigger

 

[TrollingSage]

As for the part you called me "troll",well i guess my posting history on this board clearly shows i'm not one,just for instance,and silly you for thinking that in the 1st place.

As for the rest as i already said i find it mentally challenging to debate with your likes,so therefore i'm tired of you skipping trough my points conveniently.I'll be very glad to come back and have a debate when you'll actually take your time to address my posts point per point and not only what suits your likings,and more importantly the only shred of lore you can lach onto

Deuces,

I'll bless you with a response of mine only when you'll start applying what i aforementioned,if that doesn't happen then well let's leave it as a multifariousness of opinions,as further repeating ourselves will just do any good for the sake of the debate.

Ok time to end this once and for all . And this is my last response(dont even know why I bother)
As I've said before, the enton which caught A's hands weren't moving. They were static. They weren't threatening A in any way. He purposely stuck his hand in the flames probably cos gettin a piece of sasuke's a** was more important than having 2 hands. And thats not even an opinion its a clear manga fact.
And before you go around saying Sasuke would have attacked Raikage, I have to point out that he wont. The reason being a small tiny detail I was hoping will catch your attention but hey we cant have everything we want.
A attacked sasuke from behind as you can see here

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As you can clearly see there, Sasuke's back is turned, therefore if A had stopped the attack and for some strange miraculous reason even dropped his lightning shield, Sasuke wont be able to burn him with amaterasu.
Unless ofc you're going to argue Sasuke can cast amaterasu without looking at the target.

 

[Kneegrowman]

Yes, whatever the eye sees goes up in flame, The problem is keeping your eyes on your target,

This thread would suggest any with amateratsu 1hko everybody, (amateratsu face/eyes, instant ko).

Only way to win would be invisible..

 

[Lt Iceman]

im bored so i decided to make your post bigger

Bravo to you for doing that,well you know real men,actually debate on a board that is specifically meant for that,they don't repost other peoples stuff and enlargen it in size,not talking about you specifically,just saying

Ok time to end this once and for all . And this is my last response(dont even know why I bother)
As I've said before, the enton which caught A's hands weren't moving. They were static. They weren't threatening A in any way. He purposely stuck his hand in the flames probably cos gettin a piece of sasuke's a** was more important than having 2 hands. And thats not even an opinion its a clear manga fact.
And before you go around saying Sasuke would have attacked Raikage, I have to point out that he wont. The reason being a small tiny detail I was hoping will catch your attention but hey we cant have everything we want.
A attacked sasuke from behind as you can see here

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As you can clearly see there, Sasuke's back is turned, therefore if A had stopped the attack and for some strange miraculous reason even dropped his lightning shield, Sasuke wont be able to burn him with amaterasu.
Unless ofc you're going to argue Sasuke can cast amaterasu without looking at the target.

Why do you bring up the same panel,just why if it's the same one that you posted before and happens to be on the same page.I know full well already the flames were static duh,you really need not to put it in bold,as i told you i don't lack reading comprehension at all for reasons i already aforementioned.

So in this your post yet again you brought up the same arguments of the previous post,and of the post prior to the previous one yet again.At this point as i've already stated to you in my previous assessment for the sake of the debate we just have to accept the fact that we share a dissimilarity in opinions. U_U

 

[BloodSeed]

With the whole Naruto being able to become Kurama himself now due to having full control, there has been a lot of people putting threads about Sasuke and Naruto fights: whose better part 3, whatever.


When I have looked through these threads (not just on this site), people have been saying that Naruto could just dodge the amaterasu.

I hate to say it but this is unfortunately NOT true.

The Amaterasu is an eye technique that affects whichever the eye can see, much like the Tsukiyomi.


Because the eye can see things at light speed (The speed of which light enters the eye to create the shapes and colors we see) the Amaterasu unfortunately and therefore travels at light speed.


So putting the topic to rest, from a scientific point of view, Naruto cannot dodge at light speed so cannot simply dodge the Amaterasu.


would be cool though

the eye can see at lightspeed? wtf how old are you? can you see the head of the light from a flashlight as it move at the speed of light?

 

[NakedNinja]

wow some stupid ppl. naruto is as fast as his dad short range he dodged As fastest attack witch only the 4th was able to doge so yes naruto km can easily doge this smh stop bein stupid lol