[Spoilers] Confirmed: Tobi's Sharingan

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My theory: Tobi = (part of) Madara with Obito's body, fixed with the help of Zetsu.

Here is how it goes. In the Battle with Hashirama Madara almost died, somehow the Rinnegan saved him. But he was weak, in no condition to fight anymore. So he goes away, searching for away to return. In that times with the cells of Hashirama he creates Zetsu, or improves him...

Since Madara is to weak to use the Rinnegan he decides to give them away to young Nagato (Tobi explicitly states this to Nagato's help Konan), who is being trained by the legendary Sannin Jirayaia. Madara know this is the way to develop the Rinnegan, so that in time he can be revived by it. But before he does so he needs other eyes. So together with Zetsu (he that is one with the land) finds Obito. A weak almost dead Uchiha, one he can defeat even in his (Madara's) weak state. Now here comes to tricky part I think that somehow he transferred part of his soul / chakra / skills into the body of Obito, and likewise gaining his eye ability. The broken body than got fixed by Zetsu. How the transfer went is vague but this is very likely (I mean Oro can do it), why: for two reason In the beginning Tobi only has one eye, ofc because Kakashi has the other. Also, in the recent episode where Tobi got hit, on the RIGHT side, the side that was crushed by the ROCKS (remember OBITO) you see some white skin. Ofc that is the side ZETSU fixed.

Furthermore: the combination of Zetsu and Madara makes it possible that he fights Minato and knows all these things about everyone, cause in the end he is Madara. But as Itachi has put it: A shell of his former self!

Dont you think it makes sense, in the end I will it seems quite obvious even! One last thing, Edo Madara talks about our little plan!
 

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Re: Confirmed: Tobi has Mangekyō Sharingan

tobi having obito's sharingan IS confirmed:

@saiyanisland.com/2012/08/naruto-597-spoilers-shonen-jump-38-cover
"we can confirm Tobi hints at his Sharingan eye being Obito’s, but he does not explicitly state it. This leaves the door open as to who Tobi’s identity is..."

dear retard your own link was your demise -__- ---> READ!!
 

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Tobi is actually Obito himself. When Kakashi was fighting him, he even said "You haven't changed one bit Kakashi". Since Obito always was annoyed with how Kakashi did things.

Plus how would he know the exact spot where Kakashi got his Sharingan, and take it for himself? That giant boulder would have crushed Obito's entire left side, including his eye. (Like in the fight with Danzo)

So the only explanation is that Obito awakened his Space/Time ninjutsu, went to the different demention, and survived. And since then has planned to bring peace to the world with his Eye Moon plan.

The only thing left is his age. He fights the fourth Hokage, but if it was Obito he would have still been a kid. So his Space/time jutsu allows him to travel, although I'm not sure how often he can do it, since he's always using up so much chakra and trying to conserve as much as possible.
 

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Re: Confirmed: Tobi has Mangekyō Sharingan

Always thought he had MS. But I still don't get how he has Obito's sharingan since he was completely crushed. It was obvious he wanted us to think Kakashi/Obito's eyes were a pair but I thought maybe they wouldn't be and he was just trying to trick us. The explanation must be pretty far fetched. I guess this should have been expected since Kishi wants to mind**** everyone..
If tobi is obito that , by the way I'm still unconvinced ,obito may have awakened his space/time ability protecting him from being crushed . I am still unconvinced seeing as obito has no reason to hold a grudge against the uchiha nor kakashi as their friendship parted on good terms , however kishi may end it that way and give an explanation we would never expect. Ii must say though originally I said no way to obito theory however it continues to sound more logical and plausible with each new release.
 

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Kishi seems rather blantent with his hints(take the 4th for instance...i feel like you had to be retarded not to figure that out!) and he majorly trolls other times (couplings, who Tobi is etc). Long story short...hes trolled us with Tobi being Obito but i would take it as a confirmation(my opinion only) that Kakashi and Tobi's eyes are linked only because they are both Obito's sharingan. Tobi himself may have Obito's cells in him or only the eye but i still doubt its actually Obito's body.

I have wondered for a while where Shisui, Obito, Kagami...some of these random Uchiha we have found out about but never really saw like we did Itachi, Sasuke, Madara etc. I agree that there could very well be a link between Shisui and Obito especially...and dont you have to have MS to control the kyubi? maybe im wrong and correct me if i am but i thought i read that somewhere in the manga....I mean, Tobi has to have something particularly special with his eye otherwise would Itachi, Sasuke, and all of them be able to summon the kyubi and not just Madara and Tobi?? or do i have my information a bit confused?
 
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he could just be obito its very likely now and for your question only kishi knows that so you cant really say anything about this topic sense the chapter never metioned MS you will just have to find out
 

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Well its any posible theory you have but still
Tobi is most mystery caracter in Naruto
Tobi can become Obito or someone steal obito eye because his say I got this eye same time as Kakashi become Sharinggan Hero

So Kakashi Sharinggan n tobi Sharinggan is same eye its form obito thats why Kakashi kamui conect with tobi (Trugh object) Jutsu. its form Manga Vol 597
 

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Kishi seems rather blantent with his hints(take the 4th for instance...i feel like you had to be retarded not to figure that out!) and he majorly trolls other times (couplings, who Tobi is etc). Long story short...hes trolled us with Tobi being Obito but i would take it as a confirmation(my opinion only) that Kakashi and Tobi's eyes are linked only because they are both Obito's sharingan. Tobi himself may have Obito's cells in him or only the eye but i still doubt its actually Obito's body.

I have wondered for a while where Shisui, Obito, Kagami...some of these random Uchiha we have found out about but never really saw like we did Itachi, Sasuke, Madara etc. I agree that there could very well be a link between Shisui and Obito especially...and dont you have to have MS to control the kyubi? maybe im wrong and correct me if i am but i thought i read that somewhere in the manga....I mean, Tobi has to have something particularly special with his eye otherwise would Itachi, Sasuke, and all of them be able to summon the kyubi and not just Madara and Tobi?? or do i have my information a bit confused?
I agree. I personally have never thought of Obito and Tobi being the same person. Having the same eye is different. We've all seen that is how Kakashi and even Danzo got some Sharingans. I do believe as someone else stated that they are connected probably in some other way.

Kurama did mention something about the eyes in particular of Madara, when he told Sasuke "You have the same eyes of Uchiha Madara." (not verbatim but you know). So perhaps it's a level of some sort that they get to in order to control the nine-tails.
 

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Tobi cant be Obito or shisui.

explanaiton Obito:
1. Obito got crushed
2. Tobi used Izanagi in the fight against Konan, and that would mean that he lost one eye. Obito had only one eye left, so he wouldnt have a Sharingan in his right eye anymore.
3.Tobi said that he took Obitos eye.

Shisui
1. Danzo took one of his eyes. and he gave the other eye to Itachi and Itachi put that eye into the crow that he put into Naruto.
2. they foung his corps
 

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Tobi is NOT Obito. Please re-read chapter 509 page 4. Obito does not have the rinnegan yet at that time. So if it's true then Tobi's eyes are rinnegan originally. Before giving the rinnegan to Nagato he already has the right eye of Obito. After giving his eyes to Nagato he then implanted the eye of Obito.
 

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Re: Confirmed: Tobi has Mangekyō Sharingan

Do you know how you awake MS? When you wither kill your best friend or your best friend gets killed. Tobi obviously took the sharingan (I don't know how) from Obito and only that - while Kakashi awaked the MS because of his best friends death.

Get it?
get your facts straight....its not necessary that u have to kill your best friend to awaken MS...the MS is awakened by feeling extreme sorrow or sadness....by killing a sibling or your best friend causes you to feel sorrow that awakens the MS ..bt its not really necessary that you have to kill your best friend
 

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Tobi is NOT Obito. Please re-read chapter 509 page 4. Obito does not have the rinnegan yet at that time. So if it's true then Tobi's eyes are rinnegan originally. Before giving the rinnegan to Nagato he already has the right eye of Obito. After giving his eyes to Nagato he then implanted the eye of Obito.
that's not tobi's rinnegan. It's uchiha madara's rinnegan.

here is the story of obito who became what nobody expected. A boy who entrusted his wish to kakashi which was to protect Rin and see the future through his implanted eyes. Obito did see the future but not the future he hoped for. Many cruelties and mess ups happened during kakashi's life that even led to Rin's unexplained death. Kakashi apologizes to obito for not being able to protect Rin and for breaking his promise. this is the reason why obito is now accusing kakashi for opening his mouth too easily for not being able to turn his words "promise" into action. Obito was accused once by minato for opening his mouth too easily and not turning his words into action and this time obito is accusing kakashi. There are only four people who heard this type of accusation to obito. Minato, Rin, obito, and kakashi. The fact that tobi/mask man repeats this accusation says that he is obito and kakashi knows now. he also says the place where obito was last seen which then again only rin, minato, kakashi and obito knew.

Obviously obito could have taken his sharingan back from kakashi but he still has feelings towards kakashi. Obito can not bring himself to take his sharingan back. Obito heard kakashi's explanation as to why he wasn't able to protect Rin every time kakashi went to the grave trying to get forgiveness. Obito is blaming the world of shinobi more than he is blaming kakashi.














 
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i have a theory that tobi actually never unlocked ms but is able to use its technique thanks to harashima's cells just like danzo using shishu eye which explains why they do not go ms mode makes u wonder what kind of a person the first was
 
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