Clearing up Misconceptions and Debunking claims

[AnonymousShinobi]

Lately i've noticed thread after thread spouting nonsense and actually getting likes. Well I want to put a cap to the nonsense before it gets out of hand, and people actually start believing it as fact. Lets begin

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Claim: This is the claims made by Naruto fans
Support: This is how Naruto fans try to support their false claims
Debunked: This is me debunking the false claims made by Naruto fans.

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Claim 1:You cannot absorb ninjutsu enchanced by Natural Energy.

Support: This is a reasonable claim. The proof that Naruto fans use for this is Pain turning into a statue when trying to absorb Naruto

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Debunked: This is a reasonable claim, but it fails so hard. Naruto gave Pain pure Natural Energy. Pain does not know how to handle pure Nature energy and this is why he turned to a statue. However absorbing Natural energy based attacks -senjutsu enhanced- has never been a problem for pain and has done it on multiple occasions:

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"absorb any technique"

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Claim 2: Sasuke will turn to a statue if he tried to absorb any of Naruto's attacks

Support: This is not a reasonable claim. Anybody who claims this fails at reading comprehension. They support this by claiming Sasuke simply cannot handle natural energy.

Debunked: The Juubi is composed 100% of Natural energy, and by extension, means the Bijuu to are composed of Natural Energy. Sasuke was able to absorb all of the Bijuu without any negative repercussions. Sasuke has used Juugo's body (natural energy) to heal himself with no negative repercussions. There has been many situations of Sasuke utilizing Natural Energy and I don't have time to address all of them. Fact of the matter is Sasuke will not be turning into a statue.

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Claim 3: Absorbing the FRS was "Too much energy" for Madara

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Debunked: This claim is nothing but selective reading/poor reading comprehension at its finest. Madara saying "Too much energy" was not a result of Naruto's FRS, as he absorbed that with ease, but a result of the teamwork used to throw him out of his Susanoo, which resulted in him using PP in the first place. Madara's susanoo would have tanked FRS so PP would have absorbed it. Pain's fake rinnegan has already absorbed a FRS from a FRESH SM Naruto and a Rasengan from a KCM Naruto. Saying that the FRS thrown from an exhausted CLONE of Naruto was to much for Madara is laughable. Then again, people who make these claims also fail to comprehend simple things.

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Claim 4 : Susanoo cannot use rinnegan techs
Support: None
Debunked: Madara has been shown the ability to bring down Meteors with his Rinnegan. However, he was only able to do this with his Susanoo using hands signs WITH him.

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In VOTE2 Sasuke used his susanoo as a vessel for Outer Path

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[Dantee]

omg ty for reading comprehension skills.

 

[itachi4real]

Well how am I supposed to react to this

 

[Julia Raider]

You've done quite a job writing all this!

 

[DHOH]

Great thread!!

 

[~Ethereal~]

"Sasuke will turn to a statue if he tried to absorb any of Naruto's attacks". I can't even...

 

[NarutoX28]

Where is Michael trying to debunk OP's argument? :bdpf:

 

[shadowcb]

Tail beast don't have natural energy. If they did than Naruto won't have needed to combine SM and BM to counter Obito's TSB. The 10 tails has natural energy, but tail beast 1-9 don't. They area not the same.

 

[Chaosmark101]

@Anonymous Shinobi. I actually have the Viz tankobon of the Naruto vs Pain fight. And in it Fukusaku himself states Pain transformed into a toad from absorbing too much of Naruto's senjutsu chakra. I can post it if you want.

 

[DHOH]

Tail beast don't have natural energy. If they did than Naruto won't have needed to combine SM and BM to counter Obito's TSB. The 10 tails has natural energy, but tail beast 1-9 don't. They area not the same.

When all of tail beast chakra is combine it becomes Natural energy.

 

[SenseiSama]

10/10 thread

All I see are facts

Put these haters in their place

 

[Dantee]

Where is Michael trying to debunk OP's argument? :bdpf:

Here I'll do it for it for him.

Fapsula impression.


Omg Sasuke faps and their cancerous threads Madara absorbed Rasenshuriken but can't really do it.. 10/10 manga facts right here. Ty and Nardo wrecks

 

[DHOH]

Here I'll do it for it for him.

Fapsula impression.


Omg Sasuke faps and their cancerous threads Madara absorbed Rasenshuriken but can't really do it.. 10/10 manga facts right here. Ty and Nardo wrecks

Genius!!

 

[Styles]

Nice read 10/10 haters gonna hate.

 

[SenseiSama]

Tail beast don't have natural energy. If they did than Naruto won't have needed to combine SM and BM to counter Obito's TSB. The 10 tails has natural energy, but tail beast 1-9 don't. They area not the same.

They do, they're made of the Juubi's and Hagoromo's chakra, they're 100% made of Senjutsu

 

[chaos control]

I'm not even a fervent Sasuke fan, yet I agree with everything the OP said. Especially the senjutsu thing! Sasuke's handled senjutsu so many times it's not even funny.

 

[Aznkidd]

And now lets debunk all your claim together

Mangafact - Madara the best preta user out there up to date by MANGA SCAN - get destroyed by Lava rasenshuriken
The second best preta user is Pain/Nagato up to date by MANGA SCAN - get stoned

Why i said manga scan, because it was displayed their feats that actually happened, not some kind of fanfic that being made up by sauces.

Up to date, Sasuke only able to absorb into his own body enough of chakra to fire up power equivalent to rasengan to make a clash explosion that is just 1,5 to twice bigger than clash explosion vote 1.

So yea your thread is debunked by manga fact.

ps. drawing chakra from sleeping source, Naruto has shown a similiar feats, so all your arguement about that is cancelled out.

 

[NarutoX28]

And now lets debunk all your claim together

Mangafact - Madara the best preta user out there up to date by MANGA SCAN - get destroyed by Lava rasenshuriken
The second best preta user is Pain/Nagato up to date by MANGA SCAN - get stoned

Madara only possessed 1 Rinnegan.

Let's also not use a corpse who wasn't even the original owner of the Rinnegan. Though technically, even if he gets petrified, it's not because of the amount of chakra, but the amount of natural energy. If the jutsu is still absorbed, then that technically means Preta Path did nullify the technique or has the potential to and is restricted to the user's capabilities.

Fortunately, Lord Sasuke doesn't have this issue. :bdpf:

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

I almost feel sorry for nardo now (even tho he is a pedophile )

 

[Dantee]

And now lets debunk all your claim together

Mangafact - Madara the best preta user out there up to date by MANGA SCAN - get destroyed by Lava rasenshuriken
The second best preta user is Pain/Nagato up to date by MANGA SCAN - get stoned

Why i said manga scan, because it was displayed their feats that actually happened, not some kind of fanfic that being made up by sauces.

Up to date, Sasuke only able to absorb into his own body enough of chakra to fire up power equivalent to rasengan to make a clash explosion that is just 1,5 to twice bigger than clash explosion vote 1.

So yea your thread is debunked by manga fact.

ps. drawing chakra from sleeping source, Naruto has shown a similiar feats, so all your arguement about that is cancelled out.

This is the best the nardo fapbots can come up with.

Everything wrong with this post.

-Using instances where Preta isn't being used as proof.
-Sasuke downplay as usual and pretending he doesn't have the same ability
-Literally making no sense @ bold.