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so based on what your saying asuma, who has a wind affinity, can use gaaras jutsu in the exact same manner, even though he can not enter stage 1 of shakaku, which seems to be a prerequisite for gaara to even use the jutsu.

thats a very intelligent deduction, if we were in kindergarten
Asuma didn't have talent to really use jutsus with wind element. He's just focusing chakra into knives.
 

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Might guy, doesn't know ninjutsu by my understanding.. so your arguement falls.. this is about an actual ninjutsu..

Gates are a different level as they actulley give you the power of kage.
ok and if thats your case then my argument was slightly wrong. look at it this way itachi can use ninjutsu so quickly the sharingan has trouble reading his seals

which is a case of S-class > Kage

Icemyster doesn't have gates.. >_>
you need to learn how to read and interpret. i said guy would be faster than the third hokage regardless of his usage of gates. meaning he is faster with or without them


no matter how you word it there is no standing for the claim of kage are faster than all other ninja.
 

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ok and if thats your case then my argument was slightly wrong. look at it this way itachi can use ninjutsu so quickly the sharingan has trouble reading his seals

which is a case of S-class > Kage




you need to learn how to read and interpret. i said guy would be faster than the third hokage regardless of his usage of gates. meaning he is faster with or without them


no matter how you word it there is no standing for the claim of kage are faster than all other ninja.
Itachi is counted as Kage ranked ninja or Anbu and ice's bio isn't Itachi -_-
 

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Itachi had sharingan.. he was the most talented..so he could be kage.

But in this roleplay, he'd not be as fast as kage.
 

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Itachi is counted as Kage ranked ninja or Anbu
don't try to rationalize my fact. itachi is in akatsuki, and all its member are called S-Class criminals.

and the anbu are not kage level ninja.
there are ninja whose rank doesnt represent there talents. for example naruto is still a genin, and he did very well agaisnt pein. he who was far stronger than your average s-class ninja / kage since he was both.

point being, your rank doesnt always represent your talents. so saying that all kage are faster/superior to other ninja interms of performance is a faulty statement.
 

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Itachi had sharingan.. he was the most talented..so he could be kage.

But in this roleplay, he'd not be as fast as kage.
could be and are are two very different things

and there are no rules in this roleplay that say kage are faster than everyone else

Itachi is counted as Kage ranked ninja or Anbu and ice's bio isn't Itachi -_-
no itachi is counted as an S-Class criminal, nothing more nothing less.
and you are saying ice cant have itachi like qualities becasue he isnt itachi, and that is his point for you.

you arent gaara, so how can you have gaara like qualities?
 

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don't try to rationalize my fact. itachi is in akatsuki, and all its member are called S-Class criminals.

and the anbu are not kage level ninja.
there are ninja whose rank doesnt represent there talents. for example naruto is still a genin, and he did very well agaisnt pein. he who was far stronger than your average s-class ninja / kage since he was both.

point being, your rank doesnt always represent your talents. so saying that all kage are faster/superior to other ninja interms of performance is a faulty statement.
You're now defending yourself with the argument that in Naruto series happened this and that.... DO YOU HAVE SOME ****ING PROBLEMS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NARUTOBASE RPG AND IT HAS LIMITS?! :mad:
 

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You're now defending yourself with the argument that in Naruto series happened this and that.... DO YOU HAVE SOME ****ING PROBLEMS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NARUTOBASE RPG AND IT HAS LIMITS?! :mad:
don't be a complete idiot this RPG is based on naruto, so it only makes since that events that happen in the manga affect how the rp goes.

and i noticed that you stopped defending your lousy claim of kage are faster than everything. And thats more than likely because you have nothing that can prove it.

and balanced speed for everybody is a limit, so i think you are the one who has the issue with limits.
 

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don't be a complete idiot this RPG is based on naruto, so it only makes since that events that happen in the manga affect how the rp goes.

and i noticed that you stopped defending your lousy claim of kage are faster than everything. And thats more than likely because you have nothing that can prove it.

and balanced speed for everybody is a limit, so i think you are the one who has the issue with limits.
So what you're now saying is that if I'd have Pein, Sasuke, Sage of Six paths or Naruto bio I could be able to lead the whole base due to my character is strongest or fastest on RPG and can't be beaten even though I wouldn't know A SHIT HOW TO RP!
 

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So what you're now saying is that if I'd have Pein, Sasuke, Sage of Six paths or Naruto bio I could be able to lead the whole base due to my character is strongest or fastest on RPG and can't be beaten even though I wouldn't know A SHIT HOW TO RP!
no! what i'm saying is that there is no standing behind the claim that kage are always faster than all other ninja in all other aspects.

so you are not faster than ice under that claim.
 

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no! what i'm saying is that there is no standing behind the claim that kage are always faster than all other ninja in all other aspects.

so you are not faster than ice under that claim.
That depends on whether is opponent using speed boost like gates and stuff like that but yeah... It's the rank that counts in normal situations at NB.
 

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in the end all i'm saying is your speed claim is not valid, and that you have to be gaara in shakaku form in order to use wind bullet without seals.

just as you have to be kazuku to use his jutsu w/out seals
 

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in the end all i'm saying is your speed claim is not valid, and that you have to be gaara in shakaku form in order to use wind bullet without seals.

just as you have to be kazuku to use his jutsu w/out seals
We can argue forever about the wind bullet. Since no one has ever made it using handseals then how come you know that other people need to use handseals for it.
 
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