Chapter 692 Sasuke's Revolution

[Umari Senju]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

For some weird reason I can't reply.. But Minato prbably had the same idea in the back of his head like ''Something needs to be changed'' but the difference between Sasuke and Minato is:

1. Sasuke lost his entire clan due to the old system.
2. Because of that he is ready to do anything to change the oldy system even if it means killing leaders.

There shall always be conflicts between clans because 1 has more power than the other. and what will happen ?
the other clans will seek for power in order to protect their loved ones ''Just in case'' A great power source are the Biju's.

I think that Sasuke wants to unite all villages and be the leader over it ''Hokage'' There will never be a conflict between
villages because they are all 1. and the great power houses (the biju's) are out of the way so no major power ups, Juubi or Kaguya will appear.

And in doing this Sasuke becomes a dictator. And where there are dictators you have resistance. This new system Sasuke will impose on all will not be of everyone's choice so there will be rebellions. Sasuke will burn them down and then there will be fear. Then that fear will lead to hatred and guess what?

We are back to square one. Everyone fighting everyone. Not exactly the best plan.

 

[silmarill]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

For some weird reason I can't reply.. But Minato prbably had the same idea in the back of his head like ''Something needs to be changed'' but the difference between Sasuke and Minato is:

1. Sasuke lost his entire clan due to the old system.
2. Because of that he is ready to do anything to change the oldy system even if it means killing leaders.

There shall always be conflicts between clans because 1 has more power than the other. and what will happen ?
the other clans will seek for power in order to protect their loved ones ''Just in case'' A great power source are the Biju's.

I think that Sasuke wants to unite all villages and be the leader over it ''Hokage'' There will never be a conflict between
villages because they are all 1. and the great power houses (the biju's) are out of the way so no major power ups, Juubi or Kaguya will appear.

Bijuus are a great power source yea
But what about people like Deidara? Who can flatten cities with his bombs
Or Onoki? who has nuke level jutsu?
People like third Raikage who are equal to a Bijuu?
Giant Rasengans which can blow away mountains..
How is Sasuke going to stop individuals from learning such devastating jutsu's who easily can equal Bijuus in power?
Getting rid of the Bijuu won't stop people from getting their hands on other great 'power sources'

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

And in doing this Sasuke becomes a dictator. And where there are dictators you have resistance. This way Sasuke imposed on all was not of everyone's choice so there will be rebellions. Sasuke will burn them down and then there will be fear. Then that fear will lead to hatred and guess what?

We are back to square one. Everyone fighting everyone. Not exactly the best plan.

@Bold, it depends ont he type of dictator.

Bijuus are a great power source yea
But what about people like Deidara? Who can flatten cities with his bombs
Or Onoki? who has nuke level jutsu?
People like third Raikage who are equal to a Bijuu?
Giant Rasengans which can blow away mountains..
How is Sasuke going to stop individuals from learning such devastating jutsu's who easily can equal Bijuus in power?
Getting rid of the Bijuu won't stop people from getting their hands on other great 'power sources'

Even if he stops them, they still have kunais and etc. I think Kunais killed more people in naruto-verse than anything else XD.

 

[Vapid]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

You know nothing about being a farmer. So how do you know it's peaceful?

Don't ask me; find and ask the YouTuber.

 

[Magikarp]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

But the thing is if they get rid of the system it will just be clan on clan, so it will go back to square one. On top of that Sasuke wants to kill the kages which will create hatred because someone will want revenge, such as the Sakura. Or random fodders from the villages that had a connection to them.

 

[Umari Senju]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@Bold, it depends ont he type of dictator.

point taken....But in this case we are talking about a dictator (Sasuke) who wasn't chosen by the people, who killed all the leaders and bijuu and will burn anything and anyone that doesn't fall in line with his new world order. I see much more bloodshed in that future.

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

+rep dude. This right here. Evryone keeps calling Naruto's views naive and childish. Not once did he ever say he was going to completely eraticate all the hatred in the world. That's impossible and even he knows that. Bringing peace doesn't mean conflict will never ever happen again. Naruto is trying to create a lasting peace, as Hashirama and Madara tried to do so long ago. It lasted for quite awhile. But it also gave rise to a ton of conflict as well.

But their mistakes are being resolved by Naruto and his generation. They will make mistakes along the way too as Sasuke is doing now. But then the next generation will resolve whatever issues arise in thier time. And so it goes.

Sasuke is not completely wrong in his ideal. A revolution IS necessary. But how he is going about it is not the best way and won't create a lasting peace.

yeah, I strongly agree. Killing the 5 kages can't create PEACE! But will only leads to unbreakable chain of hatred. Creating peace that way will only cause of a never ending war. Therefore, Sasuke's way to maintain peace is absolutely wrong.

 

[take it easy]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Can someone explain great Sasuke's plan for me?... He kills bijuus, kills kages... What his next move? Burn everyone in revolution flame?

 

[RedRobin]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Can someone explain great Sasuke's plan for me?... He kills bijuus, kills kages... What his next move? Burn everyone in revolution flame?

They really arent thinking this through. What after? Everyone bows down to him as the eternal ruler? Like how does that change or bring peace.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

I am falling for Sasuke's plan each day. People make his plan look better and better.

 

[silmarill]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Can someone explain great Sasuke's plan for me?... He kills bijuus, kills kages... What his next move? Burn everyone in revolution flame?

But but... he has a plan ! .. Why don't u understand? It does not matter if we know what it will be we must put our blind trust in Sasuke without questioning
Lol seems a lot like religious fanatics these people now that I think of it

 

[Umari Senju]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Can someone explain great Sasuke's plan for me?... He kills bijuus, kills kages... What his next move? Burn everyone in revolution flame?

I'd +rep you for this if I could.

XD I was wondering the same thing. How exactly is Sasuke going to create a new system? People will fear him so not many are going to be of help. Maybe team Taka will be his advisors? Or is he just going to blow everything up and start from scratch. Everyone says Sasuke's plan is better...

But what exactly is his long term plan?

But but... he has a plan ! .. Why don't u understand? It does not matter if we know what it will be we must put our blind trust in Sasuke without questioning
Lol seems a lot like religious fanatics these people now that I think of it

So true XD

 

[Sovereignty]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@ Umari Senju.


Naruto has to understand Sasuke.. And Sasuke has to understand Naruto.. if not the cycle will once again repeat itself. the main thing right now is that they clearly can't understand each other. the people don't acknowledge Sasuke so he has to forcefully become the leader of the shinobi world. but if he agrees that Naruto will become the leader of the world with Sasuke or Sasuke has is right hand
things could actually change

I think that's the reason why Sasuke learned the full history of Konoha, Indra and Ashura and every hokage.. but Naruto has to know this aswell.. or else we end up getting a second Madara.

 

[Sovereignty]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@ Umari Senju.


Naruto has to understand Sasuke.. And Sasuke has to understand Naruto.. if not the cycle will once again repeat itself. the main thing right now is that they clearly can't understand each other. the people don't acknowledge Sasuke so he has to forcefully become the leader of the shinobi world. but if he agrees that Naruto will become the leader of the world with Sasuke or Sasuke has is right hand
things could actually change

I think that's the reason why Sasuke learned the full history of Konoha, Indra and Ashura and every hokage.. but Naruto has to know this aswell.. or else we end up getting a second Madara.

But the Idea of villages and 5 different leaders has to be completely erased in order for this to work

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

I'd +rep you for this if I could.

XD I was wondering the same thing. How exactly is Sasuke going to create a new system? People will fear him so not many are going to be of help. Maybe team Taka will be his advisors? Or is he just going to blow everything up and start from scratch. Everyone says Sasuke's plan is better...

But what exactly is his long term plan?



So true XD

F*ck all Kunoichis so that he can finally restore his clan XD

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@ Umari Senju.


Naruto has to understand Sasuke.. And Sasuke has to understand Naruto.. if not the cycle will once again repeat itself. the main thing right now is that they clearly can't understand each other. the people don't acknowledge Sasuke so he has to forcefully become the leader of the shinobi world. but if he agrees that Naruto will become the leader of the world with Sasuke or Sasuke has is right hand
things could actually change

I think that's the reason why Sasuke learned the full history of Konoha, Indra and Ashura and every hokage.. but Naruto has to know this aswell.. or else we end up getting a second Madara.

@ Umari Senju.


Naruto has to understand Sasuke.. And Sasuke has to understand Naruto.. if not the cycle will once again repeat itself. the main thing right now is that they clearly can't understand each other. the people don't acknowledge Sasuke so he has to forcefully become the leader of the shinobi world. but if he agrees that Naruto will become the leader of the world with Sasuke or Sasuke has is right hand
things could actually change

I think that's the reason why Sasuke learned the full history of Konoha, Indra and Ashura and every hokage.. but Naruto has to know this aswell.. or else we end up getting a second Madara.

But the Idea of villages and 5 different leaders has to be completely erased in order for this to work

that double post tho. Lol

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@ Umari Senju.


Naruto has to understand Sasuke.. And Sasuke has to understand Naruto.. if not the cycle will once again repeat itself. the main thing right now is that they clearly can't understand each other. the people don't acknowledge Sasuke so he has to forcefully become the leader of the shinobi world. but if he agrees that Naruto will become the leader of the world with Sasuke or Sasuke has is right hand
things could actually change

I think that's the reason why Sasuke learned the full history of Konoha, Indra and Ashura and every hokage.. but Naruto has to know this aswell.. or else we end up getting a second Madara.

See here is the thing, you are putting SAsuke's failure on Naruto also.. to try to keep it equal.

Naruto perfectly understands Sasuke. Understanding someone =/= Agreeing with them.

The fact that Sasuke is still pulling this bullshit despite knowing the history.. already degrades your point.

This whole thing regarding him turning evil isn't on Naruto..... its 100% on Sasuke. Naruto isn't Sasuke' babysitter. Hes not there to hold his hand and walk him through the world.

5 leaders = representation = democracy

1 leader = Kaguya = dictatorship.

 

[take it easy]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

But but... he has a plan ! .. Why don't u understand? It does not matter if we know what it will be we must put our blind trust in Sasuke without questioning
Lol seems a lot like religious fanatics these people now that I think of it

Believe in saint lord Sauce or his Amaterasu will be burn your ass in one second. Ramen.

 

[Sovereignty]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@King Hashirama.

Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke.. I doubt he understands why Sasuke wants to get rid of the Biju's
matter of fact Naruto said this war ''Don't badmouth the hokages because you couldn't become 1'' which is just being
ignorant and denying with the truth that the hokages failed.. Minato admitted it himself.. The hokages were wrong
the Biju's are only used as powerhouses.

Naruto has to understand Sasuke's point of view.

And Sasuke's point of view is one who lost his family because of the old system and tries to change that and won't let that ever happen again. That doesn't make Sasuke a faillure for actually knowing the real truth.

 

[Zlatán]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

See here is the thing, you are putting SAsuke's failure on Naruto also.. to try to keep it equal.

Naruto perfectly understands Sasuke. Understanding someone =/= Agreeing with them.

The fact that Sasuke is still pulling this bullshit despite knowing the history.. already degrades your point.

This whole thing regarding him turning evil isn't on Naruto..... its 100% on Sasuke. Naruto isn't Sasuke' babysitter. Hes not there to hold his hand and walk him through the world.

5 leaders = representation = democracy

1 leader = Kaguya = dictatorship.

Having one leader protecting the system is better then 5 leaders who will end up disagreeing with each other and starting wars to protect their village U_U

Sasuke wants the change, because he knows the previous kages fault, with that knowledge he can rewrite their mistakes