Chapter 692 Sasuke's Revolution

[Sovereignty]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@King Hashirama.

Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke.. I doubt he understands why Sasuke wants to get rid of the Biju's
matter of fact Naruto said this war ''Don't badmouth the hokages because you couldn't become 1'' which is just being
ignorant and denying with the truth that the hokages failed.. Minato admitted it himself.. The hokages were wrong
the Biju's are only used as powerhouses.

Naruto has to understand Sasuke's point of view.

And Sasuke's point of view is one who lost his family because of the old system and tries to change that and won't let that ever happen again. That doesn't make Sasuke a faillure for actually knowing the real truth.

 

[Sageflash]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Where are you people reading this bullshit? Naruto himself has stated several times that the current system is flawed and needs reformation.

However, Naruto knows it's a long term process and he doesn't have all the answers now. A revolution which will switch one dictator regime for another is not the answer. I never knew Sasuke fans were so blinded that they actually misconstrued black and white lettering. Crazy.

 

[Anorien16]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

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Let just forget that the Gokage promised Naruto a plan to create a new system like the Alliance, the first true unity through free will.

Also lets fap out brains to Sasuke and ignore the fact that Sasuke Plan so far is to merely replace the current Kage to become a Hokage and then magically change everything.

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@King Hashirama.

Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke.. I doubt he understands why Sasuke wants to get rid of the Biju's
matter of fact Naruto said this war ''Don't badmouth the hokages because you couldn't become 1'' which is just being
ignorant and denying with the truth that the hokages failed.. Minato admitted it himself.. The hokages were wrong
the Biju's are only used as powerhouses.

Naruto has to understand Sasuke's point of view.

And Sasuke's point of view is one who lost his family because of the old system and tries to change that and won't let that ever happen again. That doesn't make Sasuke a faillure for actually knowing the real truth.

Yea Naruto understands... lol. I don't know why you say he doesn't.... Just because he doesn't agree with Sasuke doesn't mean that he doesn't understands sasuke.

If i'm extending you a hand of brotherhood for a compromise , but then you ignore it and go your own way.. you can't then say I don't understand you.


So how did the Hokage fail? Did the Hokage fail, or did the world fail itself? Naruto is still keeping up Hashirama's legacy... he hasn't failed.. So how did the Hokage fail? Hashirama already predicted this on the FIRST Gokage summit, that their peace won't last forever, and that war will come again... However, even still he believes one day people come together as SHINOBI. Guess what happened? They did.. know why? Because the Hokage didn't fail.

Sasuke's point of view is from a person who lost his family.. nice... yet it was his own brother who killed his family. As i recall he holds his brother as the utmost "hero"... lost all credibility.

Hashirama/Madara/Tobirama/Yahiko ALL LOST THEIR FAMILIES IN BATTLE. Hashirama and Madara have seen their brothers killed in battle in front of them. Sasuke ain't even seen that yet. Sasuke wasn't the one who had to defend himself 24/7 in a war at a young age now was he? So there are much more worse situations out there than Sasuke's.


Hokage are not responsible for other people's actions. Only Hokage that failed in my opinion is the 3rd. Every other Hokage did their job well.


And don't forget Naruto is the same guy who grew up without knowing who he was, and hated on by the whole village. While sasuke did lose his family, he was still worshipped by people of his age for having good looks and beinga "genius".

 

[YellowFang]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

If there's any clan whose most members can manipulate a Bijuu, it's Uchiha...
Sasuke is the last one, if he dies... None would be able to use Bijuu's powers forcefully...

And none other than those with clean heart can tame a Bijuu...
So, the issue will be gone...

This is fiction, in real life condition Sasuke's ideals seems more realistic but in manga when there'll be no one able to resist and be forced to submit before Sasuke, it won't make things better instead after Sasuke, world will just fall into chaos...

 

[Sovereignty]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@Anorien16

1 can forget about a certain scan.. But it's good that you brought that up because what Onhnoki stated is basically Sasuke's plan.
the difference is Sasuke wasn't there to hear what Ohnoki said.. If Naruto tells him that or makes him understand that they'll probably agree. the only thing left would be the Biju's.

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

If there's any clan whose most members can manipulate a Bijuu, it's Uchiha...
Sasuke is the last one, if he dies... None would be able to use Bijuu's powers forcefully...

And none other than those with clean heart can tame a Bijuu...
So, the issue will be gone...

This is fiction, in real life condition Sasuke's ideals seems more realistic but in manga when there'll be no one able to resist and be forced to submit before Sasuke, it won't make things better instead after Sasuke, world will just fall into chaos...

You mean, we take out the leaders of 180+ countries and then unite them?

Or kill the entire congress for all the democratic countries and then unite them?

Is that more realistic? Cause i haven't seen it happen.

 

[Zlatán]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

If there's any clan whose most members can manipulate a Bijuu, it's Uchiha...
Sasuke is the last one, if he dies... None would be able to use Bijuu's powers forcefully...

And none other than those with clean heart can tame a Bijuu...
So, the issue will be gone...

This is fiction, in real life condition Sasuke's ideals seems more realistic but in manga when there'll be no one able to resist and be forced to submit before Sasuke, it won't make things better instead after Sasuke, world will just fall into chaos...

Do you know why the Akatsuki existed? :|

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Do you know why the Akatsuki existed? :|

They existed to steal money and tailed beasts?

 

[Narutobirama]

System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Current Shinobi system needs change. But change is not enough. It needs to be an improvement.

Not a change to even worse system.

Sasuke's dream is to change system. And he believes he should change it. In a way, he is just like Madara.

Here is what Madara was told that applies for Sasuke as well.

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[Anorien16]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

@Anorien16

1 can forget about a certain scan.. But it's good that you brought that up because what Onhnoki stated is basically Sasuke's plan.
the difference is Sasuke wasn't there to hear what Ohnoki said.. If Naruto tells him that or makes him understand that they'll probably agree. the only thing left would be the Biju's.

You better not forget a scan that totally overturns your argument. Or you are simply displaying your ignorance.

I thought Sasuke was smart actually Noticed the 5 countries fighting together and caring for each other ... The system has already changed. But I doubt he would even listen .... He reached to the conclusion that Naruto stands against him even before Naruto said a word.

Also there is basic difference between Onoki's plan and Sasuke's 'I will become a Hoakge, better than all' ... there is less bloodshed and less stupid.

Also the Biju problem would never be 'solved' as they are immortal and will always be around.

 

[Dantе]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Don't over complicate things.

Sasuke saw what happened to Madara so he won't repeat it.

 

[Gerkak]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Indeed. Sasuke doesn't seem to be any different. Even madara's plan was better

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

He will only make things worst. Instead of creating peace, it will only leads to unbreakable chain of hatred which causes more and more wars. Period.

 

[AmaterasuBeastMode]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

I agree completely, I was half way waiting for sasuke to crack a smile and joke about the whole "changing" the shinobi world deal. The way the story goes even if he does decide to do something dumb, naruto has a whole army behind him, should they face off again!!

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Don't over complicate things.

Sasuke saw what happened to Madara so he won't repeat it.

Um are you even following the same series as we are killing the 5 kage and tailed beast isn't exactly kosher

 

[YellowFang]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

You mean, we take out the leaders of 180+ countries and then unite them?

Or kill the entire congress for all the democratic countries and then unite them?

Is that more realistic? Cause i haven't seen it happen.

1- I don't think Sasuke's trying to unite some people...
2- If and only if one country becomes enough powerful that none can stand up to it individually or by making an alliance, then it's possible...
And the ideal condition Sasuke's facing can never happen in real life...

Do you know why the Akatsuki existed? :|

Madara's eyes and plan were the reason Akatsuki existed... Excluding Uchiha, none of the akatsuki was capable of handling a Bijuu...

 

[Anorien16]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

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The change began a while ago .... Its just need proper guidance.

 

[ANiMUS]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

I won't say that Sasuke shouldn't have any part of it, but Naruto should definitely be the front runner. Sasuke has already ammassed too much hatred on himself so anything he does will be met with skepticism, even if they were good plans.

Naruto on the other hand is loved by everyone, and has loads of support. Naruto will also be more concerned about others than Sasuke would.

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The change began a while ago .... Its just need proper guidance.

Hokages r only military leaders in service to the nation. Even if they wanna become allies they must petition the Daimyo

 

[Filo]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

it is not false to say that neither Sasuke or Naruto is wrong going into this fight.